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Canada Post's Deepak Chopra says seniors want exercise from picking up mail (Original Post) CHIMO Dec 2013 OP
Yep, still an asshole and a charlatan. Edited: DRoseDARs Dec 2013 #1
Deepak Chopra is a quack. Archae Dec 2013 #2
Not that Deepak Chopra. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #3
What's he like? Archae Dec 2013 #4
No clue, I'm not Canadian. But I saw another thread on this and somebody clarified about the name. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #6
see that they are two different guys, but there is a resemblance. niyad Dec 2013 #11
A resemblance because they share the same name? eggplant Dec 2013 #21
Not the same guy. Hissyspit Dec 2013 #5
Wow, that's an unfortunate coincidence n/t Scootaloo Dec 2013 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Godhumor Dec 2013 #7
I have some old friends for whom going to the mail is a big deal and it makes them feel part of life freshwest Dec 2013 #8
Internet access is also an expensive and iffy proposition in many rural areas BeyondGeography Dec 2013 #10
DU is supposedly pro-postal service, public workers, rural and disabled getting services, etc. freshwest Dec 2013 #12
The loss of first class mail is not a Koch conspiracy and has a dramatic effect on grantcart Dec 2013 #13
Do you support privatization of public services? From the link: freshwest Dec 2013 #14
I think the answer to your question is in the three points I mentioned, grantcart Dec 2013 #15
You have your business, and we'll just have to disagree. It's not offered here. n/t freshwest Dec 2013 #16
You have lost me on your antecedents. What "it" is not offered "where". grantcart Dec 2013 #17
You seem a little confused; this Deepak Chopra is the CEO of Canada Post muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #20
Creepy guy. avaistheone1 Dec 2013 #18
Maybe he learned it from Reagan Turbineguy Dec 2013 #19
 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
1. Yep, still an asshole and a charlatan. Edited:
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:16 AM
Dec 2013

Last edited Thu Dec 19, 2013, 11:28 AM - Edit history (1)

Edit: As pointed out later in the thread, this is amazingly a DIFFERENT Deepak Chopra. However, the other one is still an asshole and charlatan. And so is this one.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
6. No clue, I'm not Canadian. But I saw another thread on this and somebody clarified about the name.
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:25 AM
Dec 2013

niyad

(113,342 posts)
11. see that they are two different guys, but there is a resemblance.
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:55 AM
Dec 2013

this is the dr:




this is the ceo of canada post:

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eggplant

(3,911 posts)
21. A resemblance because they share the same name?
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:19 PM
Dec 2013

Personally, I don't think they look at all alike.

Response to CHIMO (Original post)

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
8. I have some old friends for whom going to the mail is a big deal and it makes them feel part of life
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:26 AM
Dec 2013

Last edited Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:07 AM - Edit history (1)

again, instead of being house bound.

And I support keeping rural mail, not only for the elderly who want to walk there, but as part of a society that values those who aren't cookie cutter into being online.

Some seniors I know are not online at all, they don't have time or the resources. Really, they don't, being elderly is not sitting around eating bonbons, but taking care of a lot of stuff that younger people don't even know exists.

The war on the post office is part of the war to civil society, on unions, those who can't afford being online, or cannot meet schedules or drive.

I count on my mail being delivered to my place when the weather is bad and I can't drive in the ice and snow or be at the Post Office during their hours or standing in line there. I sure as hell can't drive miles away to a UPS or FedEx office.

Chopra was probably speaking about supporting social cohesion. We need more voices, not less, speaking for this.

Do we want to see the gentrification that has afflicted major cities be carried out in rural areas with many kinds of people living there, making their lives harder than it was for us for so many years?

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
10. Internet access is also an expensive and iffy proposition in many rural areas
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:51 AM
Dec 2013

A big fat rip-off, actually. Places aren't wired and providers take advantage, offering least-bad option type packages. Service can be spotty and, when it's good, you pay through the nose for anything more than basic Net-surfing (forget streaming, e.g.).

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
12. DU is supposedly pro-postal service, public workers, rural and disabled getting services, etc.
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:11 AM
Dec 2013

The link shows this action is by corporatists who took over the post office, jacked up prices and are cutting less empowered groups out of the mainstream, to destroy the Commons in Canada.

The article has little to do with Chopra or his religion. IIRC the man is a Hindu. NMP.

I support public workers and public services for all to keep equality for all in Canada. This is just a small part of the Koch mentality working to knock Canadians to their knees.

Happy Holidays anyway.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
13. The loss of first class mail is not a Koch conspiracy and has a dramatic effect on
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:25 AM
Dec 2013

mail around the world.

My work takes me into regional mail processing centers and the loss of volume is absolutely staggering. With increased automation and the dramatic fall off of first class mail some of these centers only occupy a third of the space that they used to and now run on two shifts instead of three.

Rather than fighting the realities of advancing technology and how it effects personal and business communication I think that we would be better supporters of the USPS if we advocated:

1) That the advanced payment into the Federal Employee Retirement System which Congress mandated be stopped

2) Restrictions that Congress has put on USPS that doesn't exist in other countries be eliminated, especially in allowing them to expand into personal business centers, including personal financial services, or Postal savings accounts:



https://www.stlbeacon.org/#!/content/24502/postal_savings_accounts_042012

When Americans drop by their local post offices to buy stamps or ship packages, they could also deposit money into postal savings accounts — a practice popular throughout the world, explains Sheldon Garon, author of “Beyond Our Means: Why America Spends While the World Saves.’’

“It’s something that sounds like lunacy here, but it just happens to be perfectly normal everywhere else in the world,’’ said Garon, who will speak Thursday at a program on the importance of saving at the St. Louis Federal Reserve Bank.


“In Japan, the world’s largest bank is the Japanese postal system. The French system is very strong; the British system is somewhat privatized but very strong. Germany is semi-privatized but very strong,’’ he said. “In other words, they’re everywhere and also in the developing world.’’



3) Allow the Post Office to develop new models of commercial delivery that will help local retail take advantage of the internet. For example as some people start to use the internet to buy produce and food allow the post office to add refrigeration and same day pick up and delivery for commercial retail orders.

We should be helping the USPS match the needs of the 21st Century and not marry it to the patterns of the 19th.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
14. Do you support privatization of public services? From the link:
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:40 AM
Dec 2013
Chopra said Canadians were widely consulted about changes and if they read newspapers and follow the media they shouldn't have been taken by surprise when the corporation announced it was raising stamp prices and cancelling door-to-door delivery. Chopra said 46 communities were consulted about losing daily mail service.

His claim that Canadians should have been aware major changes were coming didn't wash with NDP MP Paul Dewar, who angrily told Chopra that Canadians actually "didn't have a clue" about losing door-to-door delivery.

Canada Post announced last week it would phase out door-to-door mail delivery in urban areas and plans to raise the price of an individual stamp to $1.


I'm also aware the USPS is a corporation that is being set upon by privatization forces in D.C. And the postal service where I live is quite busy, and does work with email, has modernized and is hiring at a starting salary of $15 a week for carriers. We're not going to the 19th century, we're serving all our citizens.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
15. I think the answer to your question is in the three points I mentioned,
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 02:25 AM
Dec 2013

particularly allowing the USPS to expand into Postal Savings Accounts.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
20. You seem a little confused; this Deepak Chopra is the CEO of Canada Post
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 11:52 AM
Dec 2013

so, yes, the article has a lot to do with Chopra; though nothing about his religion (you're the only one who has brought that up).

And it's very hard to tell whether you support Chopra or not; you say in #8 "I have some old friends for whom going to the mail is a big deal and it makes them feel part of life again, instead of being house bound.

And I support keeping rural mail, not only for the elderly who want to walk there, but as part of a society that values those who aren't cookie cutter into being online. "

which seems to say you're in favour of mail that you have to fetch, rather than deliveries; but then you say "I count on my mail being delivered to my place when the weather is bad and I can't drive in the ice and snow or be at the Post Office during their hours or standing in line there." So you seem to be saying you want your mail delivered, but not that of old people. Or are you saying everyone should be able to choose?

But, after apparently supporting Chopra and his claim that "old people like the activity of walking to fetch their mail", you then denounce him as a corporatist with a Koch mentality, jacking up prices and cutting less empowered groups out of the mainstream, to destroy the Commons in Canada.

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