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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 08:06 PM Dec 2013

China Confirms Near Miss With U.S. Ship In South China Sea

Source: REUTERS

(Reuters) - China on Wednesday confirmed an incident between a Chinese naval vessel and a U.S. warship in the South China Sea, after Washington said a U.S. guided missile cruiser had avoided a collision with a Chinese warship maneuvering nearby.

Experts have said the near-miss between the USS Cowpens and a Chinese warship operating near China's only aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, was the most significant U.S.-China maritime incident in the disputed South China Sea since 2009.

China's Defense Ministry said the Chinese naval vessel was conducting "normal patrols" when the two vessels "met".

"During the encounter, the Chinese naval vessel properly handled it in accordance with strict protocol," the ministry said on its website (www.mod.gov.cn).

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/18/us-china-usa-ships-idUSBRE9BH03M20131218

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China Confirms Near Miss With U.S. Ship In South China Sea (Original Post) Purveyor Dec 2013 OP
China Urges U.S. To Be Cautious On South China Sea Issue Purveyor Dec 2013 #1
Yeah, careful Kelvin Mace Dec 2013 #2
I've read a lot about this story Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #3
I would imagine the US wouldn't be happy if China had warships so close to our shores either. nt Incitatus Dec 2013 #4
We didn't care when the Soviets did it hack89 Dec 2013 #5
You've never seen anything like this, by a foreign power, off a US coast: ronnie624 Dec 2013 #9
We have no way to stop it hack89 Dec 2013 #10
They have done that before Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #6
Hawaii is one thing. Incitatus Dec 2013 #7
Well, if we tried to claim the entire Gulf of Mexico as ours, you would definitely geek tragedy Dec 2013 #11
Imagine if China, Russia, ANYONE had warships off USA's coasts? ConcernedCanuk Dec 2013 #8
 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
1. China Urges U.S. To Be Cautious On South China Sea Issue
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 08:09 PM
Dec 2013

BEIJING, Dec. 18 (Xinhua) -- China on Wednesday rebuffed U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry's remarks on the South China Sea issue and urged the country to be cautious in its words and deeds.

"We have noticed his remarks," said Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying at a regular press briefing in response to Kerry, who said on Tuesday that the United States would speak out when China took unilateral actions that raised the potential for conflict.

"We hope the relevant country will respect the efforts made by China and countries of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) on the South China Sea issue, strictly abide by its commitment of not taking a position, and be cautious with its words and deeds," she said.

Hua noted China always stands for a resolution of the South China Sea issue through direct negotiations among relevant countries, and keeps smooth and effective communication with ASEAN countries on the South China Sea code of conduct.

The spokeswoman urged the United States to be more helpful for the mutual trust among countries in the region and the peace and stability of the region.

MORE...

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-12/18/c_132978546.htm

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
2. Yeah, careful
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 08:57 PM
Dec 2013

don't sink their only carrier. You know the one that can't actually support combat air operations.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
3. I've read a lot about this story
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:00 PM
Dec 2013

Basically China was conducting drills in the area and the US was conducting surveillance against them.

This pissed of China and they sent another ship to tail and annoy the US ship.

That's what lead to the near collision.

Basically the US was in international waters and had every right to be there, although it probably isn't very nice of the US to do that.

China's gotta be careful, Japan still has a better and more technologically advanced Navy and that doesn't even include the US.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
5. We didn't care when the Soviets did it
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:50 PM
Dec 2013

There were always a couple of intelligence gatherers sitting 12 miles off shore major naval bases.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
9. You've never seen anything like this, by a foreign power, off a US coast:
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:16 PM
Dec 2013

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The US would never allow such a thing. You're claiming an equivalence that clearly does not exist.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
10. We have no way to stop it
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:42 PM
Dec 2013

international waters are international waters.

Secondly, a Chinese task force off the coast of California is nothing more than a vulnerable symbol with minimal strategic value. What makes the US military in the western pacific a viable strategic threat is our robust network of bases and military alliances in the region. We don't have to project power across the Pacific - it is already in place. China cannot say the same - they have to bring everything with them. In the advent of war, an isolated battle group off of California would quickly run out of fuel and ammo.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
6. They have done that before
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:53 PM
Dec 2013

Chinese spy ships have been off the coast of Guam and Hawaiian waters in the past.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
7. Hawaii is one thing.
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:37 PM
Dec 2013

I think just off the coast of mainland US, like Virginia would be another. I can't blame them for being irked by our presence and I couldn't blame the US by being irked if they were so close.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
11. Well, if we tried to claim the entire Gulf of Mexico as ours, you would definitely
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:51 PM
Dec 2013

see Chinese and Russian warships sailing through there quite regularly.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
8. Imagine if China, Russia, ANYONE had warships off USA's coasts?
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 07:56 AM
Dec 2013

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Let's think about this a minute.

Other countries start patrolling with Aircraft Carriers, Submarines and Warships off the coasts of California (San Diego and San Francisco would be nice spots), Florida (Cuba wouldn't complain), New York and so on . . .

After all - USA's got the Gulf full of their shit, dozens of countries with USA's base in it, and so on . . .

Sooner or later, THEY WILL COME TO NORTH AMERICAN SHORES!

I suspect USA has more forces abroad than at home.

One cannot say the same for China or Russia.

This could change you know . . .

Just keep pokin' and pokin' . . .

Someone may poke back

I don wanna be here

(sigh)

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