White House: No amnesty for Snowden

[Redfairen]

Source: USA Today

The White House echoed a long-held position Monday: There will be no amnesty for Edward Snowden.

"Mr. Snowden is accused of leaking classified information and faces felony charges here in the United States," said Caitlin Hayden, spokesperson for the National Security Council. "He should be returned to the U.S. as soon as possible, where he will be accorded full due process and protections."

Snowden remains in Russia under political asylum.

"During an interview with 60 Minutes that aired on Sunday night, Richard Ledgett, who heads an NSA task force handling unauthorized disclosures, said officials should weigh offering amnesty to prevent further disclosures.



Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/12/16/obama-snowden-nsa-nsc-caitlin-hayden/4038753/

[Kelvin Mace]

1. No amnesty for this who show us for the liars we are

[Dopers_Greed]

2. "where he will be accorded full due process and protections"

Joke article?

[Psephos]

18. Straight out of Orwell, isn't it?

Newspeak uber alles.

[AtheistCrusader]

3. If this admin doesn't offer him amnesty/clemency/pardon, none ever will.

[Maedhros]

31. Well, they did it for the Bush Era torture crew...[n/t]

[Thinkingabout]

4. Help me remember the amount of amnesty Snowden allowed the US. Amnesty as in bypassing

the channels he was supposed to take in delivering information. Now there are those who expect amnesty for him.

[christx30]

10. Trusting the elected class

to do the right thing WRT unconstitutional spying on Americans would have been a stupid move. I'm glad Snowden did what he did. If he had gone to some congress critter with the information, he would have probably been either arrested or killed, and the information would have never gotten out.
And, yes, the spying on Americans is illegal and unconstitutional. If it wasn't, Feinstein wouldn't be trying to pass a law making it legal.

[Thinkingabout]

15. Now tell me which person has been killed for going to the proper course of action.

The information was out in 2005, by even Bush on a new conference. Where were you since that time?

[Mojorabbit]

20. Several people have had their lives and careers ruined trying to go the legit route

as you already know and as has been linked to dozens of times on threads on this subject.

[Ash_F]

13. Even our senators were kept in the dark about the NSA's shenanigans

Proper channels? That is comical. How hard are you thinking?

[Thinkingabout]

16. Thinking hard enough to know stealing is wrong, knew there was proper channels to go, how

hard does it take for someone to steal, guess not much for Snowden.

[Ash_F]

19. Meh, I actually have been involved a federal case

Your faith in 'the system' is naive.

[Thinkingabout]

22. Are you putting your faith in a thief?

[Indi Guy]

24. One man's thief is...

...another man's hero.

How do you feel about the traitorous double agents who stole intel from WWII Germany?

[Ash_F]

34. No, merely pointing out that our Senate(ie: the proper channels) were left out

Wrongfully.

[msongs]

5. christians who murder people by drone attacks are not offering others amnesty? ok nt

[Swede Atlanta]

6. This Administration is no different from any other....

they are drunk on power.

They only project moral values when it suits them. They kill using drones with no remorse. They spy on Americans contrary to the Constitution.

They are no different from GWB or for that matter the worst dictators in the world. It is just they put a softer face on it.

[RC]

7. No one should be surprised. This White House is the most secretive in many decades.

Instead of working on fixing the obvious problems, they blame the messenger and lie to us, and even the people that have over sight jurisdiction, about what they, the NSA, are actually doing.

[OnyxCollie]

8. "Looking forward" is only reserved for torturers.

[alcibiades_mystery]

9. Snowden would never accept "amnesty" from illegitimate warmongers anyway!

Fie, I say!

[Alhena]

11. Just like he wouldn't accept asylum from a despicable regime

That openly encourages the horrific persecution of homosexuals and which engages in violations of human rights on a regular basis that puts anything the NSA did to shame.

Oh wait.

[alcibiades_mystery]

14. Why do you hate FREEDOM????

[Mojorabbit]

21. This is perhaps the most ridiculous argument made on the subject

and I cringe whenever I hear it.

[Maedhros]

32. I'm fairly certain Snowden would have preferred to continue traveling

to Iceland or South America rather than to stay in Russia. He wasn't afforded much of an opportunity to do so, what with the U.S. State Department strong-arming European allies into grounding diplomatic flights in an attempt to snare Snowden.

[lark]

12. "Meet the new boss

Same as the old boss" (Babba O'Reily - the Who)

in some important ways, when it comes to national security, this is sadly true.

[Thinkingabout]

17. It is good to hear Snowden will not accept amnesty, let him stay in Russia, he won't have

to worry about amnesty there is he messes up, they take care of problems like him.

[Indi Guy]

26. What if it turns out that Snowden's actions...

...are the tipping point which makes the difference between you retaining what's left of your Constitutional rights or not? Will you still be making snide and disparaging remarks?

[Thinkingabout]

27. I would never put confidence in Snowden assisting in any way of retaining my constitutional rights.

When a person deliberately steals to serve his purpose it is not in the interest of making anything better, it is "control" factor and just to show he was sneaky enough to do so. Russia will not play games with him, as far as his constitutional rights in Russia he can forget about his rights.

[1000words]

23. Last I heard, he hasn't formally asked for it.

[Blue_Tires]

29. But he has been dancing around the issue for weeks

without saying it outright...

But it's a non-story...Snowden isn't ignorant enough to accept any amnesty deal, and the U.S. isn't silly enough to offer one...

[1000words]

30. The press has, that's for sure.

I agree. A non-story.

[riderinthestorm]

25. Wonder if they'll change their tune WHEN the Supremes rule NSA's actions unconstitutional

[Thinkingabout]

28. Don't hold your breathe until the SC rules their work as unconstititional.

[fujiyama]

33. Full due process?

Why even bother with such nonsense? Is Ms. Hayden trying to get into comedy writing or something?

The fourth amendment is dead. Where is OUR due process as citizens with regards to unconstitutional spying? What about due process for the American citizens this administration says it can kill at whim?

Unless you consider the puppet (FISA) courts "due process", which I'm sure I'll hear from all the security state apologists.