Iraq foreign minister warns of potential ‘jihadist state’

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Source: Associated Press

MANAMA: Iraq’s top diplomat has warned that the “toxic” proliferation of extremist groups among Syria’s rebels raises the prospect of a jihadist-ruled territory at the heart of the region.

Zebari told attendees at a security conference in Bahrain that the increase in radical fighters among the Syrian rebels was leading toward the creation of an ungovernable “Islamic emirate” that the world would have to deal with down the road.

“The most important danger coming out of the Syria conflict for Iraq ... and for the region is the mushrooming of terrorist groups and fronts in Syria,” Zebari said.

In addition to the extremist Sunnis that have crossed into Syria to help the rebels, Iraqi Shiite militants have taken up arms on the side of Assad’s forces. Baghdad insists it has no official role in deploying fighters across the border.

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Dec-09/240374-iraq-foreign-minister-warns-of-potential-jihadist-state.ashx

[go west young man]

1. Hell, we on the left warned of that before 2003

and dum dums invasion. It was pretty obvious as the Shia made up 80% of the population whereas the sunni's were in the minority and more educated but held control. We basically let the crazies have the place. The caliphate (shia crescent) the right wingers always worry about was put in place by themselves. Fucking idiots.

[DhhD]

10. GW Bush broke up the balance of power between the Sunni and Shiite in the Old World.

Installing a Shiite government in Iraq left the former Sunni population there to seek a new place of residence (Syria). What took 1400 years of fighting and establishment for a balance of power, was destroyed by Bush-Chaney and the Contractors of the MIC0The West. It may take hundreds of years for the new balanced borders to reestablish themselves. In other words the Sunnis of Iraq, are moving to Syria to become the Sunnis of Syria.

[Victor_c3]

3. is there any example in history where we have successfully imposed a democracy on another nation?

When we mess with another country's government, a lot of unintended consequences happen. The types of changes that we, as a country, want to see in other nations needs to come from the people in the respective nation and not us or any other outside force.

[muriel_volestrangler]

4. Japan? Germany? (nt)

[CJCRANE]

5. But those countries started the war

in the first place and were well and truly taught a lesson.

[Victor_c3]

7. Admittedly, I know almost nothing about Japanese history but the Germans had a democracy before WWII

Hitler was voted into power under the Weimar Republic and was able to take dictatorial power under provisions created in the Weimar constitution.

So, after the war, when a democracy was imposed on the Germans, it was a form of government that they were already acquainted with.

As far as Japan goes, I believe that there was a growing movement for democracy in the 1920s and 1930s within the country. So, after the defeat of the Japanese, a democracy wasn't exactly a foreign idea to them. However, I really don't know enough about this to be able to talk intelligently about it...

[DhhD]

9. The World wide Oil Embargo against Japan in the mid 1930s forced Japan to seize

the oil business of other countries. Oil Embargo and/or Sanctions started WWII US and World are negotiating with Iran which is smarter than starting WWIII.

[muriel_volestrangler]

11. Well, that's fascinating, but off-topic

The question was "is there any example in history where we have successfully imposed a democracy on another nation?"

[Lurks Often]

6. South Korea and the Phillipines n/t

[Victor_c3]

8. I'll have to read up on that. Thanks. n/t

[ConcernedCanuk]

12. Hell, even USA's OWN democracy is hardly "successful" . . .

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USA is still pretty much run along the lines of past Feudal Landlords and Robber Barons.

Short answer to your question - NO.

democracy - yes, - sort of . . .

successful?

NO WAY!

CC