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Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:18 AM Mar 2012

Mansion servant enslaved by uber-rich New York family for nearly six years

Source: Yahoo News

A wealthy New York woman is facing criminal charges after being accused of keeping an illegal immigrant as an indentured servant and forcing her to live in a closet for nearly six years.

Documents posted on the Smoking Gun allege that Annie George, 39, and her now-deceased husband, Mathai Kolath George, hired an illegal immigrant from the Indian state of Kerala. The immigrant, identified only as "V.M.," was promised about $1,000 a month in wages to live in the family's 34-room, 30,000-square-foot home, known as Llenroc mansion, which houses a helicopter pad, 15 fireplaces, marble flooring, 24-karat gold gilded ceilings and a glass elevator. V.M. was tasked with taking care of the Georges' four young children, along with performing household duties in the mansion located about 20 miles north of Albany.

New York's minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. Even if V.M. had been allowed to leave the residence at the end of a regular 40-hour workweek, she would have been entitled to a minimum, pretax income of $290 per week, or $1,160 per month.

Instead, the "forced labor situation" (as described in the court papers) was even worse than the already-below minimum wage offer of $1,000 month. V.M. received 85 cents an hour, working 17-hour days, seven days a week, over the 67 months she was kept inside the George residence.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/mansion-servant-enslaved-uber-rich-york-family-six-201707220.html

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Mansion servant enslaved by uber-rich New York family for nearly six years (Original Post) Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2012 OP
This is the second story like this from NY recently Renew Deal Mar 2012 #1
These types of things tend to be very under-reported PotatoChip Mar 2012 #37
What filth these people are joeybee12 Mar 2012 #2
A psychopathic need to dominate and subjugate others. DCKit Mar 2012 #4
Good thing they're wealthy. Otherwise they would be looking at long prison sentences. Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #3
When that happened here near Dallas, the perpetrators DID end up with prison sentences. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #56
How did they stop her from fleeing the property? begin_within Mar 2012 #5
They have their ways. bluedigger Mar 2012 #7
intimidation and money SemperEadem Mar 2012 #27
Intimidation and threats Posteritatis Mar 2012 #33
Probably took her passport MountainLaurel Mar 2012 #38
Yep Cal Carpenter Mar 2012 #53
"We will protect you from the INS, Mendocino Mar 2012 #40
They were one tax break short of hiring an assistant... bluedigger Mar 2012 #6
Yes, these are the "job creators" nytemare Mar 2012 #24
Yo, we don't have the caste system over here you ignorant woman snooper2 Mar 2012 #8
there was another case very similar a few years back, same caste orgins flexnor Mar 2012 #58
Is that really against the law for the 1%? CanonRay Mar 2012 #9
Some of them certainly think it is. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2012 #11
Nothing is against the law for the 1%. The "law" is to keep us in line, not them. harun Mar 2012 #18
We'll find out after their slap on the wrist - or not. grahamhgreen Mar 2012 #51
But, she works the jobs Americans won't... joeglow3 Mar 2012 #10
My completely American daughter is a nanny. LiberalEsto Mar 2012 #13
Seems like she should contact the American embassy or failing that, the foreign goverment. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #15
She needs this job LiberalEsto Mar 2012 #16
She may get a better payout from a lawsuit. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #17
She should .... bongbong Mar 2012 #21
Don't even joke about it, such jokes are used to attack the worker as nothing but a thief happyslug Mar 2012 #26
Thanks for your concern bongbong Mar 2012 #28
You be surprize at what happens in ADMINISTRATIVE Law hearings happyslug Mar 2012 #45
Hearsay bongbong Mar 2012 #48
She would never do that LiberalEsto Mar 2012 #31
Just doing the work that Americans won't do. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #12
...for nothing. Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #25
.85 cents/hr 17/hr days. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2012 #57
OTOH.. The closets in that mansion are pretty big. . . . . . n/t annabanana Mar 2012 #14
One ought to build up more trust with one's hired help. Bruce Wayne Mar 2012 #19
It's a cultural thing .... BOHICA12 Mar 2012 #20
It's not realistic to generalize (wealth, race, privilege) from a single anecdote... saras Mar 2012 #22
Some history of the estate eggplant Mar 2012 #23
How does free living quarters factor a2liberal Mar 2012 #29
Really? October Mar 2012 #34
Yes, really. a2liberal Mar 2012 #41
I don't know about now, but my first job included room and board, Bette Noir Mar 2012 #42
Thanks! (n/t) a2liberal Mar 2012 #47
As the upper class often quotes (back on them), "It's time to REALLY level the playing field" Dont call me Shirley Mar 2012 #30
Throw 'em in the slammer hifiguy Mar 2012 #32
facing charges of encouraging and inducing an illegal alien to reside in the U.S. lunasun Mar 2012 #35
You'd think they could have found it possible to deal with her honorably. Look at their house. Judi Lynn Mar 2012 #36
Hey, she wasn't an indentured servant..... AnneD Mar 2012 #39
I would be real creative if I were the judge in this case. First, the 30,000 sq ft bungaloo would 24601 Mar 2012 #43
Busted! Now the mistress will get to be locked up McCamy Taylor Mar 2012 #44
Spam deleted by cbayer (MIR Team) dfgrehe Mar 2012 #46
Prison is to good for some people Incitatus Mar 2012 #49
I have an even better idea. Brigid Mar 2012 #54
Morbid Wealth is a disease. Just like Morbid Obesity. Or any addiction. grahamhgreen Mar 2012 #50
Jaysus! Makes down stairs at Downton Abbey look like the Ritz! nt MADem Mar 2012 #52
That happened here near Dallas, TX. The victim ended up with a judgment for... Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #55

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
37. These types of things tend to be very under-reported
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 06:35 PM
Mar 2012

for a variety of reasons. Who knows how much of this really goes on all over the country? I bet the numbers are shockingly higher then many may think.

Disgusting disregard for fellow human beings. I hope this family gets their due comeuppance.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
2. What filth these people are
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:28 AM
Mar 2012

It's not like they could afford to pay this person a decent wage and have decent conditions...pure fucking evil filth.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
4. A psychopathic need to dominate and subjugate others.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:36 AM
Mar 2012

Note that they picked on someone who was defenseless to begin with.

They're cowards, too.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
56. When that happened here near Dallas, the perpetrators DID end up with prison sentences.
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 11:58 AM
Mar 2012

Despite their wealth. Additionally, they had to pay all the wages in a lump sum that they hadn't paid.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
33. Intimidation and threats
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 05:53 PM
Mar 2012

Do as we say - that's the law, you see - or we'll have you arrested for such-and-such; that sort of thing.

There's a mess with seasonal farm labourers in Canada every other year or so because some dipshit decides they can get away with that.

Mendocino

(7,498 posts)
40. "We will protect you from the INS,
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:05 PM
Mar 2012

however you must prove to us that you are trustworthy, loyal and hardworking."

nytemare

(10,888 posts)
24. Yes, these are the "job creators"
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 03:00 PM
Mar 2012

We better not try to raise the capital gains tax, or they will be forced to use extreme measures.

 

flexnor

(392 posts)
58. there was another case very similar a few years back, same caste orgins
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 01:12 PM
Mar 2012

almost the exact same thing

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
13. My completely American daughter is a nanny.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:38 PM
Mar 2012

She might as well be an indentured servant. She works for a foreign ambassador and his American-born wife.

Right from the first they led her to believe she would be getting far more pay than she is actually getting.

She lives there and has a hard time getting weekends or holidays off to get away from them, because if she is there on weekends, they have constantly have her do extra work that was not in the job description.

In addition to caring for the child, which is the easy part, they expect her to cook dinner for 7 other people every night, walk two giant and poorly trained German Shepherds, scrub, clean and move heavy furniture, including a piano. The American-born wife treats her like dirt, the way she treats the other help.

My daughter takes on extra jobs like scrubbing the kitchen floor because she feels bad for the housekeeper, who has heart trouble and no health insurance. My daughter buys her own basic coverage.

Like I said, she is American and is putting up with a lot of stuff. Times are hard.





 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
16. She needs this job
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 01:31 PM
Mar 2012

Unless it gets really nasty, she's going to try and stick it out for 4 more months.
The job is in the United States.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
21. She should ....
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:19 PM
Mar 2012

She should "collect" things from the household that they won't miss, and then sell them (a few years later) on Ebay etc. This will cover her missing wages.

This is suggested merely for amusement! Not real. It's just a joke! My comment is the same as when repigs make racist/sexist/misanthropic statements that they explain as "It was a joke! Lighten up!"

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
26. Don't even joke about it, such jokes are used to attack the worker as nothing but a thief
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 03:33 PM
Mar 2012

Sorry, such comments are used AGAINST workers all the time, even if it was a joke. I have seen such comments used against my clients in Unemployment cases, I have seen such comments being taken SERIOUSLY by Unemployment judges. I like jokes, but when they can come back to hurt someone, you have to tell people to STOP making them. Your jokes fits that category, it can and I suspect will be used against the person this sub-thread is about (Employers DO look at threads like this when it comes to Employees).

Just a comment and a warning NOT to make jokes like the one you did, it is NOT harmful in itself, but it can be used against the employee.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
28. Thanks for your concern
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 03:42 PM
Mar 2012

Anonymous chatboards count in court these days? With no names mentioned? Maybe they can use a fictional book about the same type of thing I joked about as evidence too!

I didn't know the court system was in such shambles.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
45. You be surprize at what happens in ADMINISTRATIVE Law hearings
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:17 PM
Mar 2012

You be surprise what happens in such hearings, clearly hearsay but it will come up and if no attorney to object (which is most of the time) permitted into the record. Thus I had clients come into my office hearing already been held, hearsay statements admitted, and I have to work on an appeal containing that hearsay and I am unable object to it for the time for such objection was long gone. Thus it happens, especially in administrative law (for example Unemployment law).

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
48. Hearsay
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:45 PM
Mar 2012

Hearsay evidence that somehow gets into the record is weighed by the judge when it comes time to do that. If there is a judge floating around who gives what amounts to a fictional fairy tale any input into his or her decision, then the justice system has really gone to hell.

What your concern boils down to is the equivalent of saying any fictional book or story about a hired person stealing from their employer would affect a judge's decision if it was introduced as evidence.

Law students better study literature (so they can win cases) rather than law if what you say is true.

Bruce Wayne

(692 posts)
19. One ought to build up more trust with one's hired help.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 01:39 PM
Mar 2012

I treat my boy Alfred with just as much dignity and respect as if he were a real person.

 

BOHICA12

(471 posts)
20. It's a cultural thing ....
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 01:48 PM
Mar 2012

... he might have immigrated here 20 years ago, but he never left the caste mentality behind nor embraced the idea of liberty for all.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
22. It's not realistic to generalize (wealth, race, privilege) from a single anecdote...
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:32 PM
Mar 2012

The other three corners of the US:

California and Washington, from the law offices of Reuben Seguritan

Florida, from the Dept. of Justice

In the middle of the country, from ABC/KQHA/ConnectTristates.com

Hawaii, from Hawaii News Now, reposted

and more human trafficking and slavery cases than you can shake a can of pepper spray at, from Human Trafficking & Modern-Day Slavery, a website by Martin Patt, of the U. of Massachusetts

It's something that people in power are tempted towards, whether rich or poor, laborers themselves or idle rich. And I think that the corporate corrosion of the notion of consent in general is a large contributor to its widespread acceptance.

a2liberal

(1,524 posts)
29. How does free living quarters factor
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 04:07 PM
Mar 2012

into the minimum wage calculation? Not trying to justify the behavior (I realize a closet can hardly be considered living quarters), just curious about the technicalities of the live-in situation in general.

Bette Noir

(3,581 posts)
42. I don't know about now, but my first job included room and board,
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:30 PM
Mar 2012

so my employer could get away with paying 1/2 the minimum wage at that time. The employer? The Bureau of Land Management.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
30. As the upper class often quotes (back on them), "It's time to REALLY level the playing field"
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 05:20 PM
Mar 2012

for ALL, not just so the rich can have a world population of indentured servants. Time to relieve them of all ther excess (stolen) money.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
32. Throw 'em in the slammer
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 05:43 PM
Mar 2012

and flush the key down the toilet. A few years in the hoosegow may give these assholes a hands-on appreciation of the value of labor.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
35. facing charges of encouraging and inducing an illegal alien to reside in the U.S.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 06:03 PM
Mar 2012

Seems more like kidnapping or abduction but maybe that does not apply to illegals

Judi Lynn

(160,588 posts)
36. You'd think they could have found it possible to deal with her honorably. Look at their house.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 06:23 PM
Mar 2012

The original owner, who built it, had it designed to look like the student center at Cornell, and named it Cornell backwards, "Llenroc."

http://www.luxist.com/2007/10/04/llenroc-estate-estate-of-the-day/2

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
39. Hey, she wasn't an indentured servant.....
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 06:41 PM
Mar 2012

She was working as an intern...Yes, that's the ticket Smithers. She was an intern.

24601

(3,962 posts)
43. I would be real creative if I were the judge in this case. First, the 30,000 sq ft bungaloo would
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:58 PM
Mar 2012

now be owned by the former "servant." Then the former slave master would owe 10 years "community service" as the new servant.

At least until a higher court overturned me on appeal....That's probably why they don't make me a judge - that and all that law school crap.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
49. Prison is to good for some people
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:00 AM
Mar 2012

Some deserve to be sent to China and work work for
Foxconn for the rest of their lives

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
54. I have an even better idea.
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 10:51 AM
Mar 2012

How about sending them to one of those Stalin-era gulags like the ones they're showing on H2 right now? They'd never survive that. Most -- millions -- didn't.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
55. That happened here near Dallas, TX. The victim ended up with a judgment for...
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 11:56 AM
Mar 2012

over $300,000 in unpaid wages. So she'll be able to return home a wealthy woman (she was from Central America, I think). Not that she didn't pay dearly for that money. But at least she can move forward and provide for her children.

Maybe the same will happen in this instance.

BTW, the people charged in the crime WERE sentenced to prison.

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