Crystal Mangum found guilty of 2nd-degree murder

[discocrisco01]

Source: Durham News Observer

DURHAM — A jury found Crystal Mangum guilty of second-degree murder Friday in the stabbing death of her boyfriend, Reginald Daye, in 2011.

Superior Court Judge Paul Ridgeway sentenced Mangum to a minimum of 14 years and two months to a maximum of 18 years in prison.

Deputies immediately led Mangum out of the courtroom in handcuffs following the announcement of her sentence.

Mangum, 35, stabbed Daye, 46, in the side of his chest on April 3, 2011 during a fight at Daye's apartment. Daye died 10 days later at Duke Hospital from complications from the wound.

Mangum claimed she stabbed Daye in self defense after she fled to the bathroom and he dragged her out by the hair, but Daye told investigators before he died that Mangum attacked him several times with knives before stabbing him in the chest



Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/11/22/3396116/jury-in-mangum-murder-trial-continue.html

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She is the person who accused the Duke lacrosse players of rape a couple of years ago.

[pnwmom]

1. And there had been another serious incident involving a previous boyfriend.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/11/06/3346306/mangum-wants-to-keep-duke-lacrosse.html

Meier also filed a motion to keep witnesses from testifying about an incident in 2010 in which Mangum threw her then-boyfriend’s clothes in the bathtub and set them on fire while her children and two police officers were in the home.

She was charged with arson and other lesser crimes, but a jury could not reach a verdict on the arson charge, which was the most serious of the charges. It did, however, find her guilty of some of the lesser charges associated with the case.

Franks said she does plan to introduce evidence from that incident during the murder trial.

“She came running down the hallway screaming, ‘I’m going to stab you! I’m going to kill you!’” Franks said. “She practically bulldozed an officer and had to be taken down.”

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/11/06/3346306/mangum-wants-to-keep-duke-lacrosse.html#storylink=cpy

[msanthrope]

2. I remember the DUers who thought that incident was no big deal. nt

[BlueToTheBone]

5. I think she has real issues with men

and anger. Understatement of the week

[mzteris]

7. ever wonder why

that might be?

[Ranchemp.]

8. Not because of being "raped" by the Duke LaCrosse players,

that story was a total fabrication and pushed by the prosecutor, Mike Nifong, who was disbarred because of his conduct during the investigation of the charges.

[mzteris]

9. Before that.

And I don't doubt that she was sexually assaulted. She may have been paid for it. May have participated in it. Maybe decided to profit from it and stretched the truth to some degree. (And fwiw, every damn word could have been absolutely true and the result would have been the same. Money and power talk - loudly. I lived there. Duke is sacrosant and those boys heirs to fortunes you and I will never ever know. And also, fwiw - I knew the private investigator on that case - a former Durham police officer - and, well - let's just say not everything she said was a lie.)

But the real point is - she was damaged before she walked in that door.

Have you ever stopped to wonder why that might be?

[BlueToTheBone]

10. My guess would be that she was at

various times in her life, beaten, raped, mentally and emotionally abused and denigrated as a sentient being and she "acts out" her rage and impotency against life.

[mzteris]

15. Exactly. n/t

[lumberjack_jeff]

11. Nope. Never wondered, ever. Some people are just bad.

Crystal Mangum is just bad and her apologists should be ashamed of themselves.

[NaturalHigh]

13. "Some people are just bad."

That's a perfect description of Crystal Mangum. Though she may not be technically labeled as a sociopath, she has many sociopathic tendencies.

I actually think that most of her supporters are worse. They know how bad she is but still support her because of their own agendas.

Unfortunately, this woman will eventually get out of prison and will undoubtedly ruin more lives.

[mzteris]

19. I'm not her supporter.

My only "agenda"- if that's what you want to call it - is trying to bring awareness thate extreme damage to individuals affect those around them, and thus society.

It's probably too much to ask for the cessation of all horrific behavior, but if those who suffered from it were to receive treatment, then maybe the cycle could stop for that chain. Violence begets violence. Abuse most of creates abusers. Self-treating mental health issues with street drugs exacerbates all of it. Street drugs, you say? Well, no money, no healthcare, no doctors, no prescribed and monitored medication that the privileged enjoy.

Most sociopaths are made, not born.

[NaturalHigh]

20. When I talked about her supporters...

I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about the people who continued to support her and want the Duke players strung up even when it was clear that she was lying. The posts on DU at the time were pretty horrific.

"Most sociopaths are made, not born."

We agree on that point at least. Unfortunately, treatment really doesn't help sociopaths substantially. The absolute best that it can do for them is teach them that destructive behavior is not in their best interests. Since they have no remorse (and I have never seen anyone more remorseless than Crystal Mangum and her supporters), they don't care how their actions hurt other people.

[mzteris]

16. Such compassion

And deep understanding of human nature. Wow.

[lumberjack_jeff]

21. She's a murderer.

She is undeserving of the kind of rationalizations on display here.

[mzteris]

23. And I repeat.

Wow. Not rationalization, Jeff. Understanding.
Not condoning, comprehending.
Compassion does not negate consequences.
Capice?

[Dr. Strange]

33. justice4nifong?

Wow.

[lumberjack_jeff]

34. Yup. Sidney Harr is a member in good standing of DU.

http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/is-sidney-harrs-crusade-for-crystal-mangum-backfiring/Content?oid=3700005

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=302023

[Dr. Strange]

35. Bit of a standout name.

Like someone signing up as "ZimmerFan".

[lumberjack_jeff]

36. Like "ZimmerFan" - but tolerated. n/t

[NaturalHigh]

14. "Ever wonder why"?

No, not at all. She killed a man. She tried to send other men to prison by falsely accusing them of rape. At this point, I don't care what her issues are. I just hope they keep her in prison for the entirety of her term and then be ready to clean up the mess when she eventually gets out and commits another violent crime.

[mzteris]

17. Is there any part

Of you that hopes she might treatment and counseling so she doesn't commit anymore violent crimes.

[NaturalHigh]

18. Sure. I hope that treatment might minimize the damage...

that this woman will inevitably do. I'm a realist, though. She has been a very bad person for a long time, and she isn't likely to change. At some point, damage control has to be the priority for the good of society.

[mzteris]

22. My original question...

Do you never give a thought to the circumstances that got her to that point?

That's all, not apologizing for her, excusing her, advocating for her.

Just bringing up the topic of cause and effect.

[NaturalHigh]

24. "Do you never give a thought to the circumstances that got her to that point?"

No. Whatever might have traumatized her at some point in her life had nothing to do with the multiple people that she has victimized.

[mzteris]

25. Seriously?

That trauma created her. Changed her. Made her into that sociopath. Victimization is all she knows. Be one or create one.


I know you understand that.

[NaturalHigh]

27. I do understand that sociopaths are almost always created by trauma.

I just don't understand how that would change anything about this case or her crimes.

[mzteris]

29. doesn't change the case.

Never said it did.

I was asking if people understood from whence it sprang, and that the behaviour of individuals have long, and far-reaching consequences.

[aaaaaa5a]

3. Let this be a reminder to everyone with the FSU stuff going on

to refrain from assuming the accused guilty before anyone even has all of the facts.

Accusations are not always truth.

[NaturalHigh]

12. I posted something similar in another thread.

An Air Force captain was found not guilty by a court martial, but he is still being called a rapist by some.

[Egnever]

4. With a name like Crystal Mangum

it was only a matter of time.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/05/26/naming.names.importance/

[jakeXT]

6. Should have been Crystal Magnum

[blueknight]

26. she is going

exactly where she belongs. she is a compulsive liar, a murderer, a sociopath. she needs to be put away

[NaturalHigh]

28. Unfortunately, she will be out in a few years.

[jessie04]

30. She's a victim.

A black women in North Carolina doesn't stand a chance.

[LisaL]

31. One would think that the guy she killed is a victim.

[jessie04]

32. Do we really know ?

Would you want to be on trial in NC ?

[penultimate]

38. Yes. That has actually been one of my life long goals.

[lumberjack_jeff]

37. More of a chance than her dead boyfriend. n/t

[nomorenomore08]

39. You know, I would probably agree with you except for the fact that she *committed murder*.

Was she sexually assaulted, or otherwise mistreated, by the Duke lacrosse players? I don't know. They were acquitted, but there were also no doubt powerful influences working toward said acquittal, whether they did what they were accused of or not.

But in this case, any abuse or trauma she may have suffered in her life is largely irrelevant. Why? Because she took a human life, that's why.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

40. "They were acquitted, ... whether they did what they were accused of or not."

Then you need to read more.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=646052

The case was dismissed. The players were declared innocent. Not just "not guilty," but "innocent."

"The State Attorney General ...officially declared all three students 'innocent....' "
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=646090