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Omaha Steve

(99,659 posts)
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:45 AM Nov 2013

Senate Democrats Poised to Block Filibusters of Presidential Picks

Source: NY Times

By JEREMY W. PETERS

WASHINGTON — Senate Democrats are on the verge of moving to eliminate the use of the filibuster against most presidential nominees, aides and senior party leaders said Wednesday, a move that would deprive Republicans of their ability to block President Obama’s picks for cabinet posts and the federal judiciary and further erode what little bipartisanship still exists in the Senate.

Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the majority leader, is poised to move forward on Thursday with a vote on what is known on Capitol Hill as the “nuclear option,” several Democrats said. Mr. Reid and the senators who have been the most vocal on stopping the Republican blockade of White House nominees are now confident they have the votes to make the change.

“We’re not bluffing,” said one senior aide who has spoken with Mr. Reid directly and expects a vote on Thursday, barring any unforeseen breakthrough on blocked judges.

The threat that Democrats could significantly limit how the filibuster can be used against nominees has rattled Republicans. Senator John McCain, the Arizona Republican who has brokered last-minute deals that have averted a change to filibuster rules in the past, visited Mr. Reid in his office on Thursday but failed to strike a compromise.

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Senator Harry Reid, in Washington on Tuesday, could schedule a vote before Friday, an aide has said.
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Senate Democrats Poised to Block Filibusters of Presidential Picks (Original Post) Omaha Steve Nov 2013 OP
Reid would not call for a vote unless he had the votes lined up.... chillfactor Nov 2013 #1
I'll believe it when I see it. Lasher Nov 2013 #2
Harry's caved too many times for me to get excited about this. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #4
This indicates it is another bluff... dotymed Nov 2013 #7
Dems. should do away with this type of filibuster practiced by the Repubs, even if these Cal33 Nov 2013 #3
Sorry. I don't believe it will happen. Kablooie Nov 2013 #5
I was just wondering about this a few minutes ago... ReRe Nov 2013 #6
maybe it will be different this time corkhead Nov 2013 #8
Uh-huh. Sure. Android3.14 Nov 2013 #9
Uh huh. Scuba Nov 2013 #10
Reid does seem more serious this time. Jim Lane Nov 2013 #11
You've been bluffing for years! NYtoBush-Drop Dead Nov 2013 #12
Only about 4 years too late, and very limited in scope....... groundloop Nov 2013 #13
Might as well do it moondust Nov 2013 #14
The problem moxybug Nov 2013 #15
Wait, what? n/t eggplant Nov 2013 #16

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
1. Reid would not call for a vote unless he had the votes lined up....
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:57 AM
Nov 2013

and Biden could provide the tie-breaking vote if needed...

Hang in there Harry...do not back down!

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
4. Harry's caved too many times for me to get excited about this.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 06:58 AM
Nov 2013

If he wants to do it, do it. What the fuck is he waiting for? If he's expecting the GOP to all of a sudden play nice, it ain't gonna happen. Like you said, I'll believe it when I see it. The Republicans don't believe him, I guarantee. All he does is bluff.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
7. This indicates it is another bluff...
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:44 AM
Nov 2013

"“We’re not bluffing,” said one senior aide who has spoken with Mr. Reid directly and expects a vote on Thursday, barring any unforeseen breakthrough on blocked judges."
If we could trust all Obama appointees (the judges seem fine) then this should've been done long ago.

When I look at the advisor's President Obama has had (especially his economic advisor's) I do worry that more corporatists may be on the horizon.
Yes, we have heard this same rhetoric many times.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
3. Dems. should do away with this type of filibuster practiced by the Repubs, even if these
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 06:55 AM
Nov 2013

latter should withdraw their filibuster of the judge nominees. They'll only do it again
at the next opportunity.

The possibility that the Repubs. might win the senate in 2014 should be of
no consideration. The present type of filibuster ruling is not only wrong, it
is also viciously stupid and must be done away with, regardless of who
should win the senate next year.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
5. Sorry. I don't believe it will happen.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:11 AM
Nov 2013

Either he will be a vote or two short or the Repubs will give some small inconsequential concession and the vote will be cancelled.

I hope I'm wrong but I don't think so.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
6. I was just wondering about this a few minutes ago...
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:19 AM
Nov 2013

... on another thread. Like a previous poster above said... I'll believe it when I see it.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
9. Uh-huh. Sure.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 08:03 AM
Nov 2013

The faux filibuster is a device used to keep any political party from bringing actual change to the government. There was a time when a newly elected administration could actually move on promises.
Now our democracy is just an empty sled sliding across the ice.
Give 'em hell, Harry, or whatever.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
11. Reid does seem more serious this time.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 08:34 AM
Nov 2013

Yes, believe it when I see it is an understandable reaction -- but I find myself unable to shake my optimism that it will happen.

Of course, I was optimistic in 1986, too, right up until the moment that ball went between Buckner's legs....

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
13. Only about 4 years too late, and very limited in scope.......
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 08:59 AM
Nov 2013

If it happens it's progress, but if Reid would have at least done away with the faux filibuster in 2009 we'd have avoided many of our problems we're facing now. I'm glad they're working to get some of the empty judge positions filled, but from what I read that's all that this move will apply to. Hell, at least make the GOPers get up and really filibuster if they feel so strongly about something.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
14. Might as well do it
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 09:00 AM
Nov 2013

and go to work on filling court vacancies. Because that's what the "shut-it-all-down" Teapublicans will do if they ever get the chance.

 

moxybug

(35 posts)
15. The problem
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 09:47 AM
Nov 2013

is that most of the judges being filibustered are probably to the right of st ronald of reagan. More corporately controlled stooges to continue the fascist agenda. Ultimately getting them confirmed will do more harm than good.

Until all us proles stand up and shake off the parasites that control our lives, this is nothing but political theater.

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