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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 07:48 AM Oct 2013

Bulgarian mother of ‘Maria’ has FIVE of her other NINE children taken into care.

Source: Daily Mail

The biological mother of Maria, the blonde girl found in a Roma camp in Greece, has had five of her nine other children taken into care.

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Maria was found living in Farsala after a police raid two weeks ago, and Bulgarian authorities have said they will ask Greece to hand her over.

Mrs Ruseva, and her two youngest children - Nasko, three, and Penka, two - were moved to housing in Stara Zagora, the regional capital 25 miles from the Roma ghetto on the outskirts of Nikolaevo where the family lived.

Kosyo Kosev, the mayor of Nikolaevo, said: 'Social services have decided to settle Mrs Ruseva and her two youngest children in social housing while the other five under age will be re-homed for the time being either in a state institution or with foster families.'




Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2479775/Bulgarian-mother-Maria-children-taken-care.html

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Bulgarian mother of ‘Maria’ has FIVE of her other NINE children taken into care. (Original Post) dipsydoodle Oct 2013 OP
This story just descends the rings of benevolent racism hell. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #1
and they think that they Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #5
plus i bery much doubt any effort will be made to place her or any of the kids loli phabay Oct 2013 #8
Looks like she was moved to social housing for the benefit of the two youngsters dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #9
Ummm why is the Roma Couple being Charged with Abduction?? Heather MC Oct 2013 #2
She didn't live the child with them. LisaL Oct 2013 #3
This is what confuses me Heather MC Oct 2013 #4
That's her story and she appears to be sticking to it. LisaL Oct 2013 #6
Crazy Heather MC Oct 2013 #7
But those people who drove to another state to leave the child there, left the child LisaL Oct 2013 #10
I am not saying the what the mother did was right Heather MC Oct 2013 #11
Nebraska..nt Jesus Malverde Oct 2013 #12
Oh, the authorities more than admit to it TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #13
Thanks. elleng Oct 2013 #14
Tried but could not watch those documentaries. efhmc Oct 2013 #15
I loved that law, I thought it was so progressive. justice1 Oct 2013 #16
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
1. This story just descends the rings of benevolent racism hell.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 07:53 AM
Oct 2013

I'm sure Maria will be much better off in a bulgarian orphanage. How about the state just stop fucking with Roma people?

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
9. Looks like she was moved to social housing for the benefit of the two youngsters
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 09:05 AM
Oct 2013

and Maria will go either to an orphanage or a foster home. Given the publicity I'd say a foster home was more likely.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
2. Ummm why is the Roma Couple being Charged with Abduction??
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 08:19 AM
Oct 2013

Am I reading this wrong Maria's mother left her with them. Then went off to have two MORE children
as if she is budding them by accident. No where in the report does it say the Roma couple mistreated the child

Look Children get abandoned all the time. My Grandmother ended up Raising Her sister's step son Child because the Father was an Alcoholic and the mother was mentally Ill. And my Grandmother's Sister didn't pay any attention to the kid just left him in his play pin all day. My Grandmother Came to visit her Sister saw the baby fell in love with him and took him home. His bio parents never came for him, I doubt there is any legal paperwork on this "adoption"

This sort of thing happens alot even in this country. It would be shameful to charge the people who took this girl in with abduction.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
3. She didn't live the child with them.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 08:32 AM
Oct 2013

She claims she never met them and didn't know them at all. She claims she left the child with some woman she met on the street.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
4. This is what confuses me
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 08:46 AM
Oct 2013
She denies receiving money for the child and insists she meant to return for her but 'was too poor and then another two babies came along'.


SO she just left her child with some random person and then left the country?
I hope Maria is given to a good home.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
6. That's her story and she appears to be sticking to it.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 08:49 AM
Oct 2013

It makes me very angry at the very suggestion she could get the child back. The child she gave to some stranger she met on the street by her own admission.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
7. Crazy
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 09:00 AM
Oct 2013

I think this is more common then Authorities want to admit too. It's not like we live in a society that allows you to give up your children if you find you can't care for them. I remember Nevada tried that and people were driving from all over the country and giving up their Children some as old as 17. I heard one man gave up all 10 of his children. They amended that law quickly.

I can almost forgive her for giving up the child, but then she went off and had TWO MORE!!! I guess abstinence never occurred to her? Or Birth Control?

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
10. But those people who drove to another state to leave the child there, left the child
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 09:13 AM
Oct 2013

with proper authorities and not some stranger they met on the street.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
11. I am not saying the what the mother did was right
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 09:33 AM
Oct 2013

I was just thinking out loud. It's not exactly easy to just give up a child you can not afford to care for. I am not familar with her country or their rules reguarding custody of Children, but I imagine it's nearly impossible to give up a child to proper authorities without consequences.

I know in our Country you have a few days you can leave a baby at church or hospital
I wonder what were the circumstances that lead this mother to just pass her daughter to a complete stranger?
But again it's hard to find compassion for her considering she went off and made two more.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
13. Oh, the authorities more than admit to it
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 01:08 PM
Oct 2013

Did you see the two documentaries on the other threads about these cases? It's certain people here on DU that refuse to admit to how widespread it is or that it's even a problem and ironically refuse to watch the documentaries. I'll try finding them again and posting them here.

She sold the kid and sold the other ones, too. Greece has an enormous child trafficking problem which was expanded on when the story of the couple being arrested first came out... why they went through Greece, how much money could be had per child depending on its age, that almost all of the money goes back to the country of origin of the people that claim they gave their child away to another Roma they just met on the street and keep popping out babies in double digits and/or forging documents for multiple babies that don't exist in order to collect social services money.

But all that mysteriously disappeared from the minds of certain people here the very moment they discovered that the child did belong to the couple they found. Nothing was going to get in the way of their "neener-neener" posts because all that mattered to them was whether or not the kid was biologically theirs. Never mind whether or not Maria or her other kids were sold or that she gave more than one kid away to some strange Roma woman met on the street and kept popping out more babies. Means nothing to them. We're supposed to just leave the Roma gypsies alone to live in cardboard boxes raising double digit kids with no sanitation, no heat, no water, etc. and forget about the child trafficking and exploitation and all the money pouring in to mostly Romania where the headmen live in palaces richer than Midas.

Now, if anyone here dared to mention that we leave the homeless right here in this country alone to live the same way though they aren't using their wombs as a profitable businesses for their headmen and sending their kids out every day even as young as a toddler that still isn't steady on their feet to beg and/or steal as their sole means of survival other than forging documents for multiple babies that they never birthed in order to scam the social services checks these certain people would be so outraged and suddenly remind everyone that the obligation of any country is to care for the poor and downtrodden and what a sin it is not make sure they have housing, sanitation, clean water, heat, enough food and help them find education and work to care for themselves.

But since they won't watch the documentaries they have no idea that 100% of the MEN in these Roma gypsy camps do not work. Not because they can't find work but that they WON'T work because the family income is made by the children and the women. And the women's work is to be the minders of their children that are out all day for 10 hours or more begging and/or stealing while they beat their children if they don't think they're making enough money and make them use a telephone booth to go to the bathroom since time can't be wasted in the money making enterprise of child exploitation to take the child to a public restroom though they wouldn't know what to do with a flush toilet having never seen one.

If it comes out that they can prove that her children were sold those certain people will do one of two things: 1) claim that the proof no matter what it is was trumped up by evil cops, or 2) disappear and spend their time talking about ACA/cute kitties/whatever. Just watch.

Found the documentaries (prepare to be more sickened and outraged than you've ever been)...









efhmc

(14,726 posts)
15. Tried but could not watch those documentaries.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 03:52 PM
Oct 2013

Maybe some good will come of this and things for these children will get better.

justice1

(795 posts)
16. I loved that law, I thought it was so progressive.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 05:31 PM
Oct 2013

My siblings and I endured every type of abuse imaginable. I found myself on the streets at 16, and have had to fend for myself ever since. I felt the only way to escape was suicide. If they had the law back in the 80's, I would have turned myself in. I was so disappointed when Nebraska repealed the law.

Now the state has gone the other way, and privatized social services, making it profitable, and the state is leading the country in removing children from homes.

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