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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:39 PM Oct 2013

Ted Cruz Explains to Trayvon Martin’s Mother How ‘Stand Your Ground’ Laws Help the Black Community

Source: The Blaze

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) came face-to-face with Sybrina Fulton, the mother of Trayvon Martin, on Capitol Hill during a Tuesday hearing on “Stand Your Ground” laws. After offering his condolences to Fulton, Cruz told the mother that the self-defense laws are not racist because they help blacks as much as whites, if not more.

Cruz also explained that, despite some efforts to exploit Martin’s death, George Zimmerman’s defense team never used Stand Your Ground laws as a defense in the murder trial.

“We know that some in our political process have a desire to exploit that tragic, violent incident for agendas that have nothing to do with that young man who lost his life. We have seen efforts to undermine the verdict of the jury and, more broadly, to inflame racial tensions that I think are sad and irresponsible,” the Texas senator added.

Cruz went on to refute the “remarkable” allegation that Stand Your Ground laws do not protect black communities.


Read more: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/29/ted-cruz-explains-to-trayvon-martins-mother-how-stand-your-ground-laws-help-protect-the-black-community-at-senate-hearing/#



You have to admire the position of Ted Cruz. He lectures Trayvon Martin's mother to her face that Stand Your Ground laws help the black community, and criticizes her and her supporters for exploiting her son's death. I bet that Ted Cruz will probably rake in millions in contributions from the hate media crowd for this performance.
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Ted Cruz Explains to Trayvon Martin’s Mother How ‘Stand Your Ground’ Laws Help the Black Community (Original Post) TomCADem Oct 2013 OP
Keep talking, you boob TheCowsCameHome Oct 2013 #1
Ummm Mr Pettibone Oct 2013 #3
I know several people from Texas... tofuandbeer Oct 2013 #19
Cruz is more popular than Perry among the far right in Texas. Paladin Oct 2013 #29
I read through the reader comments on that page. Scary. mac56 Oct 2013 #2
Me too. The first comment turned my stomach.... TrollBuster9090 Oct 2013 #7
The Glenn Beck/Rush Limbaugh Crowd Love This Crap... TomCADem Oct 2013 #10
These comments sound like the cheers and applause the TeaPublicans... KansDem Oct 2013 #26
Of course I saw ALL those talking points here in one thread or another about the case Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #35
That's a depressingly good point. TrollBuster9090 Oct 2013 #36
I think it's only reasonable that... ourfuneral Oct 2013 #4
Ted Cruz continues to show the world what a condescending asshole he is. blue neen Oct 2013 #5
Unmitigated gall, thy name is Ted. True Blue Door Oct 2013 #6
I would like to say what I would have done... ReRe Oct 2013 #8
This guy just got on the national scene in January and I already can't stand the sight of him. Beacool Oct 2013 #9
I don't think we should be linking to Glenn Beck's mouthpiece the Blaze. totodeinhere Oct 2013 #11
Ted Cruz's Home Turf - It Accurately Quote Ted Cruz... TomCADem Oct 2013 #12
Ted Cruz is a shit stain on the butt of humanity! gopiscrap Oct 2013 #13
Cruz scoops the TSTL Awards! Demeter Oct 2013 #14
Tomorrow .... cosmicone Oct 2013 #15
I love how so many nuts like to call him a thug because he smoked pot obama2terms Oct 2013 #16
Tom, next time try finding the story in non right wing sites. alp227 Oct 2013 #17
jackass Lil Missy Oct 2013 #18
George Zimmerman’s defense team never used Stand Your Ground laws as a defense in the murder trial. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #20
If you didn't know how clueless he was before... SaveAmerica Oct 2013 #21
This guy if awesome. christx30 Oct 2013 #22
Christian "love." You can smell it from here. blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #23
That is if "here" is somewhere in Asia. Left Coast2020 Oct 2013 #24
Go back to Canada. nt onehandle Oct 2013 #25
Fuck you, Ted Cruz 47of74 Oct 2013 #27
May he burn in hell BootinUp Oct 2013 #28
If Trayvon had been the one with a gun, would he have been saying the same thing? moriah Oct 2013 #30
Does it seem like Cruz is trying to start up race riots? LiberalFighter Oct 2013 #31
Where's Cruz going next? Newtown, CT? Paladin Oct 2013 #32
Teanazis are a despicable bunch heaven05 Oct 2013 #33
This guy makes Jesse Helms look like Ted Kennedy--he is a national embarrassment yurbud Oct 2013 #34

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
29. Cruz is more popular than Perry among the far right in Texas.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 06:56 AM
Oct 2013

But both of them are viewed as embarrassments by plenty of Texans.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
7. Me too. The first comment turned my stomach....
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 11:03 PM
Oct 2013
"He should have explained to Trayvon Martin’s Mother How if trayvon had stayed in his own neighborhood and out of other peoples back yards that he might still be alive. And maybe if she had checked his facebook page she would have seen that her son was an up and coming thug."


In fact, since this is Glenn Beck's website, you'd expect the low information types to still be parroting the zombie lies about Trayvon Martin, and they sure didn't disappoint.
The 'Facebook page' was fake
Martin was NOT 'caught with stolen jewels,' and was NOT 'suspended for hitting a teacher.' Nor did he have "liver damage," nor did he have drugs in his system (other than trace amounts of pot that could have been smoked weeks earlier). He did not buy "two of the three ingredients to make LEAN at the store." The only component that actually makes the cocktail LEAN is the prescription cough syrup, and the other two ingredients are just superficial. Saying you can make LEAN with "Skittles, Watermelon cocktail, and codeine cough syrup...and Martin had TWO of those ingredients" is the same as saying a terrorist can make a bomb with an alarm clock, a paper bag, and three sticks of dynamite; and Martin had a paper bag and an alarm clock...TWO OF THE THREE INGREDIENTS TO MAKE A BOMB." That one REALLY gets my goat.

Here's another favorite comment:
"She knew he was a thug. He was in her care when he was suspended a number of times including for hitting a teacher and being caught with stolen jewels. The whole reason he was in Stanford was bc she kicked him out of the house."


And another
"Ted should let her in on some statis concerning murder in America

In America, blacks make up 12.5% of the population, but they are doing 50% of the nation’s murders annually.
"


Another gem...
"The black folks wanted to govern themselves and after over 40 years of governing Detroit all they have done is tear down what good folks built. When the good folks left – there was not one to pay the taxes only people to ‘take, take take’… and now Detroit is bankrupt. Philthydelfia may well be next.

Good folks don’t want you around them because of your destructive tendencies. Stay on your own side of the road. All American cities with a population of Black over 60% are experiencing the worst crime ever! We don’t want it. Stay away before we read about another 80+ year old man or woman being killed by you cowardly destructive animals.

They provoke the fight and then call US racists? Really!"


The people who frequent THE BLAZE are really the bottom feeders of the human race.



TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
10. The Glenn Beck/Rush Limbaugh Crowd Love This Crap...
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 11:22 PM
Oct 2013

...Also, he provides a useful out for billionaire extremists to funnel money to support their radical ideological agenda.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
26. These comments sound like the cheers and applause the TeaPublicans...
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 04:13 AM
Oct 2013

...gave Rick Perry's Texas execution numbers and Ron Paul's remarks about the uninsured at the 2012 GOP convention.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
35. Of course I saw ALL those talking points here in one thread or another about the case
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 01:27 PM
Oct 2013

And they weren't all from five-post-flameout trolls, either...

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
36. That's a depressingly good point.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:29 PM
Oct 2013

Nevertheless, I hope every person who said something like that HERE was flamed by at least 100 other people for being a racist asshole. As opposed to being flamed by ONE person there, and praised by three others for having the 'courage' to stand up to the 'political correctness police.'

 

ourfuneral

(150 posts)
4. I think it's only reasonable that...
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:55 PM
Oct 2013

.....when Ted Cruz comes onto your property while quixotically campaigning for POTUS in 2016, stand your ground.

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
6. Unmitigated gall, thy name is Ted.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:59 PM
Oct 2013

There's a reason these so-called laws are known as "Klan Your Ground" in every community other than the gated ones.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
8. I would like to say what I would have done...
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 11:14 PM
Oct 2013

... were I Mrs. Fulton, but I'm afraid one of the trolls in our midst would report on me. So I will keep my mouth shut. I am self-censoring.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
9. This guy just got on the national scene in January and I already can't stand the sight of him.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 11:18 PM
Oct 2013

Rafael, you stink. Oh, and your daddy stinks too.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
11. I don't think we should be linking to Glenn Beck's mouthpiece the Blaze.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 11:23 PM
Oct 2013

It's right wing hate site of the worst kind.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
12. Ted Cruz's Home Turf - It Accurately Quote Ted Cruz...
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 11:26 PM
Oct 2013

...and I think it is important to see that right wingers really do get off of this crap. In other words, this isn't Rachel Maddow taking liberties with a sound bite. This is freaking Glenn Beck who is managing to make Ted Cruz look like a looney caricature, yet the right wing loves this crap. In other words, there is no way you can blame this on the "liberal media." This is Ted Cruz's home turf and he comes off crazy and racist.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
15. Tomorrow ....
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 11:45 PM
Oct 2013

Ted Cruz will explain how deportation helps immigrants...

Day after tomorrow ....

Ted Cruz will explain how psychosis helps with cognition.


Why do we give that idiot publicity?

obama2terms

(563 posts)
16. I love how so many nuts like to call him a thug because he smoked pot
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 11:49 PM
Oct 2013

I mean seriously what teenager hasn't? Not very many I can tell you that.

alp227

(32,025 posts)
17. Tom, next time try finding the story in non right wing sites.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 11:56 PM
Oct 2013

Maybe you chose TheBlaze because it's a site that Ted Cruz supporters would read, but at DU let's try not to give right wing site any more traffic. Here are some non right wing sources covering this story:

Mediaite, Ted Cruz Tells Trayvon’s Mother Why Stand Your Ground Laws Can’t Possibly Be ‘Racist’
Huffington Post, Ted Cruz Defends Stand Your Ground, Says Lawmakers Want To 'Exploit' Trayvon Martin's Death
Think Progress, At Stand Your Ground Hearing, Ted Cruz Argues Florida Law Helps African-Americans

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
20. George Zimmerman’s defense team never used Stand Your Ground laws as a defense in the murder trial.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 12:04 AM
Oct 2013

Maybe.... But that's a completely dishonest and disingenuous statement. We KNOW the jury took Stand Your Ground into consideration during the deliberation. Whether the defense team used it as a defense or not does not mean that the law wasn't considered or that it had nothing to do with the decision.


Juror: We talked Stand Your Ground before not-guilty Zimmerman verdict

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/16/3502481/juror-we-talked-stand-your-ground.html#storylink=cpy
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/16/3502481/juror-we-talked-stand-your-ground.html



He's such a lying sack of shit.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
30. If Trayvon had been the one with a gun, would he have been saying the same thing?
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 07:17 AM
Oct 2013

I mean, after all, I've said if some car had been following me when I was walking home from the convenience store at night, then a person got out of their car to chase after me, and I was armed, I might have ended up shooting. But I'm a tiny white female, and I'd probably not get charged.

And minors can't get concealed carry permits.

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
32. Where's Cruz going next? Newtown, CT?
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 09:32 AM
Oct 2013

He might as well tell the parents of those dead kids all about the benefits of high-capacity magazines. Gun Enthusiasts: The company you're keeping keeps your opponents permanently optimistic.....
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