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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 01:59 PM Oct 2013

Top intelligence officials called to testify on NSA surveillance programs

Source: WaPo

Two of the nation’s top intelligence officials were summoned to testify Tuesday before a House committee examining possible changes to a 35-year-old law intended to allow electronic surveillance of people involved in espionage or terrorism on behalf of foreign powers.

The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence called James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence, and Army Gen. Keith Alexander, director of the National Security Agency, to discuss potential changes to the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act as part of what the committee called an effort to “increase transparency and rebuild Americans’ confidence” in NSA programs.

The hearing, after nearly five months of controversy and debate, comes as Congress grapples with what to do about the NSA’s controversial program to collect the phone records of nearly every American. The two starkest possibilities: endorse it or shut it down.

Also appearing before the committee Tuesday were Deputy Attorney General James Cole, Deputy NSA Director Chris Inglis and a panel of private legal experts.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/top-intelligence-officials-called-to-testify-on-nsa-surveillance-programs/2013/10/29/e9e9c250-40b7-11e3-a751-f032898f2dbc_story.html

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Top intelligence officials called to testify on NSA surveillance programs (Original Post) bemildred Oct 2013 OP
Let the lying commence.... nt HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #1
My wife was listening to the radio while I was watching "They Live". bemildred Oct 2013 #2
No, he really means it. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #14
Exactly. dballance Oct 2013 #5
No plans to address listening in on foreign heads of state?? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #3
See post #2, just heard they are thinking about it. nt bemildred Oct 2013 #4
I was thinking about helping my friend move. christx30 Oct 2013 #6
Why? nt bemildred Oct 2013 #7
I think the officials at Spook Central severely underestimated the will of the American people... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #8
They severely overestimated what they could get away with. bemildred Oct 2013 #9
We need code pink with hat pins.... haikugal Oct 2013 #10
They have no one to blame but themselves for this headache LiberalLovinLug Oct 2013 #11
Yes. I said that in June when I first heard of this mess. bemildred Oct 2013 #12
Whose turn is it going to be to give "the least untruthful answer"? AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #13

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
2. My wife was listening to the radio while I was watching "They Live".
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:12 PM
Oct 2013

There was some news show saying: "Obama Administration Considering Stopping Surveillance of Foreign Leaders".

After a couple minutes she comes in the room and asks me if I'm all right because I'm still laughing.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
5. Exactly.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:25 PM
Oct 2013

Since none of those top officials have been prosecuted for lying under oath to Congress they will continue to lie. That won't stop until they're held accountable and no one in the Congress or the White House really wants to do that. They all want the intelligence gathered by the NSA. These hearings are just a carnival side-show to placate the masses.

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
8. I think the officials at Spook Central severely underestimated the will of the American people...
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:35 PM
Oct 2013

...to preserve what's left of our Constitutionally guaranteed rights.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
9. They severely overestimated what they could get away with.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:40 PM
Oct 2013

Because they are all quite full of themselves.

But they do seem to realize they have a real problem now, and one they know nothing about how to deal with. Alexander looks like a deer in the headlights. This is the DC bubble.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
11. They have no one to blame but themselves for this headache
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 03:04 PM
Oct 2013

If one looks at it (spying on allies) without judgement and from the point of view that EVERYBODY does it (or would if they could) and that its inevitable as technology advances.......

Snowden did not rise up like a Frankenstein for no reason. Like a lot of clusterfucks in America, it can be traced back to Bush/Cheney regime. The illegal wiretapping of American citizens and illegal data retrieval orders for Internet service providers and phone companies incubated someone like Snowden to rise. Snowden was not, seemingly, all that infuriated with phone-tapping foreign leaders. It was the intrusion on his fellow American citizens that irked his ire. That was his main concern.

The international spying revelations was a byproduct of his initial releases. IMO if Bush/Cheney had not been so brazen with stealing American's personal private communications, a Snowden would not have risen to now throw a monkey wrench into the whole works.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
12. Yes. I said that in June when I first heard of this mess.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 03:10 PM
Oct 2013

It's infantile, it's ignorant, and it's stupid to be doing this in the first place. It's very expensive and there is no upside to this sort of excess.

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