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Omaha Steve

(99,660 posts)
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 06:58 AM Oct 2013

Apple's earnings fall despite rising iPhone sales

Source: AP-Excite

By MICHAEL LIEDTKE

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Apple's quarterly earnings are still sagging even as sales of its iPhones are rising, a vexing phenomenon feeding investor worries about whether stiffer competition in the mobile device market will continue to undercut the company's prosperity.

The fiscal fourth-quarter results announced Monday closed the books on a sobering year that saw Apple's market value plunge by about 25 percent, or about $160 billion. Apple Inc. (AAPL) remains the world's most valuable company, despite the downturn.

The company's earnings have been shrinking along with its share of the smartphone and tablet computer market that Apple reshaped with the 2007 release of the first iPhone and the 2010 introduction of the iPad. Apple hasn't come up with another breakthrough product in a new category since then, raising questions about the company's ability to innovate following the death of co-founder and chief visionary Steve Jobs two years ago.

Apple's earnings have now fallen from the previous year in three consecutive quarters after a decade of steady growth.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20131029/DA9NFNNG0.html





In this Sept. 20, 2013 file photo, Managers Ju Lee, left, and Brad Deep get iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c phones ready for sale on the day of their release, at a Best Buy in Atlanta. Apple’s quarterly earnings are still sagging even as the sales of its iPhones are rising, a vexing phenomenon feeding investor worries about whether stiffer competition in the mobile device market will continue to undercut the company’s prosperity. (AP Photo/John Amis, File)

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Apple's earnings fall despite rising iPhone sales (Original Post) Omaha Steve Oct 2013 OP
Proves Android is better cosmicone Oct 2013 #1
Adobe gave up on Flash on mobile devices and is pushing HTML 5, exactly like Apple wanted. onehandle Oct 2013 #3
Adobe did it because it had no choice cosmicone Oct 2013 #6
LOL! onehandle Oct 2013 #7
Way more Samsung Galaxy S3 and S4 phones were sold during that time. cosmicone Oct 2013 #8
iPhone 5S is No. 1 at all U.S. carriers; 5C is No. 2 or 3 onehandle Oct 2013 #9
That is US data -- don't be so myopic cosmicone Oct 2013 #10
Check back in after 'iPad Christmas.' And the 'innovation' thing is silly. onehandle Oct 2013 #2
Yes their margin is shrinking a bit. Paulie Oct 2013 #4
Steve Jobs is dead. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #5

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
3. Adobe gave up on Flash on mobile devices and is pushing HTML 5, exactly like Apple wanted.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:20 AM
Oct 2013

And proves Android is cheap, you mean.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
6. Adobe did it because it had no choice
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:36 AM
Oct 2013

and who is fascist apple to force another popular product out?

In a few years, Apple will be a "has been" company like Blackberry. They may be flying high now but the innovative momentum is with Android and Samsung.

One can see it in the growth of the number of apps available on Android vs growth in Apple apps. Just 3 years ago, Apple had 7 times more apps -- now they are about even ... just extrapolate this curve in the future!

iPhone 5C will be a dismal failure and cause massive losses. Mark my words.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
7. LOL!
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 12:15 PM
Oct 2013

Apple sold 33.8 million iPhones over the last quarter. iPhone profit alone makes them the most profitable company in the world.

You seem to live in 1997.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
8. Way more Samsung Galaxy S3 and S4 phones were sold during that time.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 12:41 PM
Oct 2013

Galaxy S4 is now the gold standard.

Apple is for people who need a button for everything and are tech-challenged.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
2. Check back in after 'iPad Christmas.' And the 'innovation' thing is silly.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:17 AM
Oct 2013

Innovation is about improvement. Which they do constantly.

The word should be 'revolution.' And according to the the timeline of Apple, they are not due for another for several years.

Oh, and Apple sold 33.8 million iPhones over the last quarter. iPhone profit alone makes them the most profitable company in the world.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
4. Yes their margin is shrinking a bit.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:41 AM
Oct 2013

But some other quotes from the same article:

Apple's earnings have now fallen from the previous year in three consecutive quarters after a decade of steady growth.

The Cupertino, Calif., earned $7.5 billion, or $8.26 per share, during the three months ending Sept. 28. That compared to income of $8.2 billion, or $8.67 per share, last year.

The latest quarterly earnings topped the average estimate of $7.92 per share among analysts polled by FactSet.
Revenue rose 4 percent to $37.5 billion - about $600 million above analyst predictions.


And there was no new products during the last quarter, except the final week or two when the new iPhones launched. New mini is next month and new iPad Air is this Friday. And the holiday quarter is usually the strongest.

So title should be more like "AAPL Profits dip, crazy income and growth continues."
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