'Police gunman told me to ignore paedophiles’, says ex-child protection officer
Source: UK's Daily/Sunday Express
A FORMER child protection officer claimed last night a Special Branch detective held a gun to his head to stop him investigating a VIP paedophile ring.
By: James Fielding
Published: Sun, October 20, 2013
Chris Fay said he was pinned to a wall and throttled before being given a chilling warning to back away from allegations surrounding the notorious Elm Guest House in Barnes, south-west London.
Young boys in care were allegedly taken there in the Eighties to be abused by high-profile MPs and other powerful establishment figures.
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Mr Fay, 67, of south London, said: It became very dangerous. People seem to forget that Special Branch could do what they liked, they were a law unto themselves.
At one point they had me up against a wall by my throat with a gun at my head telling me in no uncertain terms that I was to back away if I knew what was good for me.
Read more: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/437954/Police-gunman-told-me-to-ignore-paedophiles-says-ex-child-protection-officer
Wanna bet the security services like MI5 and/or MI6 (or maybe even the "Special Branch" itself) did not want this perversity stopped as it no doubt produced a fount of good blackmail material that could be used against MPs and VIPs, so the orders went out to the elite police "Special Branch" unit to warn off any well meaning, naive, do-gooders who tried to stop the travesty.
SPECIAL BRANCH WORK
in the United Kingdom
Foreword
Within the police service, Special Branches play a key role in protecting the public and maintaining order. They acquire and develop intelligence to help protect the public from national security threats, especially terrorism and other extremist activity, and through this they play a valuable role in promoting community safety and cohesion. These revised Guidelines which replace the Guidelines issued in 1994 describe the current broad range of Special Branch roles and functions at national, regional and local level.
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Doc/47171/0025036.pdf
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)For this to be easily dismissed as a coincidence.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)in most cases aided by law enforcement and the courts.
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)Then those rumors just faded away.
We will probably never know if they were just untrue slanders or truths that were covered over.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I don't believe they were untrue either. W was hanging around the whitehouse during that time and there were stories floating about cocaine during that same time span also.
We all seen W on our teevees after a big snort of coke a few times during his and the Dicks administration. You know when W's mouth would be all over his face, classic coke/meth behavior.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)loudsue
(14,087 posts)I think it started in Chicago....a guy named Franklin was involved....it was in the newspapers. THEN it was disappeared. There were other indications, too, that Poppy bush had little boys around a lot. It makes more sense about how screwed up the family is with the patriarch being a pedophile.
get the red out
(13,468 posts)That book is chilling, it details what you are talking about, it all started in Nebraska and the Pedo ring was intertwined with the savings and loan debacle and big named folks, if I recall. And it was written by a Republican former Nebraska legislator who tried to expose what he discovered.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)these things happened as far back as the Nixon administration. I believe that Thompson had been working on a story about the WTC when he came across a lot of information about Jeff Gannon. Some folks believe that he is the missing child (Johnny Gosch) that disappeared from the Des Moines area in 1982. Thompson had told people that it was possible that Gannon was connected to a child sex ring from the 80s. I doubt we will ever know the truth.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)for the wealthy and powerful to be able to do this kind of horrible shit and get away with it.
That whole Jerry Sandusky episode had me shocked and baffled the entire time it was going on. It was like the whole state power structure in Pennsylvania was bending over backwards to allow him to rape kids. I still think his "charity", which shut down almost instantly after he was finally busted, was actually a pedophile ring. We never did hear who its big donors were or what their relationship was to Penn State. No one ever investigated or reported it, to my knowlege.
WCLinolVir
(951 posts)A lot left unexplained.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)but I am afraid I do. I think it is more pervasive than most of us can imagine.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)they get away with murder. Sadly, probably a common occurrence in the lofty towers of 'elite' power.
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)loudsue
(14,087 posts)What a slime of a family they are.
dotymed
(5,610 posts)some woman claiming she was raised as a sex slave for the elite. She accused poppa bush administration (some of them), through baby bush admin. of facilitating this and participating at orgies for world leaders.
If I remember correctly, she was barred from suing them by a national security letter.
The elite sociopaths live by a whole different set of rules than everyone else.
It is too twisted for me to comprehend.
WCLinolVir
(951 posts)and pathology that allows for this, you feel like you live in a hidden cesspool.
starroute
(12,977 posts)Here's one that I saved some years back when it showed up here in a thread about the Iraq War. Like most such stories, it has a somewhat sensationalistic tone ("pagan rituals"?), but it seems clear that there was something unsavory going on. Below that is a more recent item about a Portuguese case where they actually did bring the high-level perpetrators to trial.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2003/01/29/are-pedophiles-running-blair-s-war-machine/
January 29, 2003
A child-sex scandal that threatened to destroy Tony Blairs government last week has been mysteriously squashed and wiped off the front pages of British newspapers. Operation Ore, the United Kingdoms most thorough and comprehensive police investigation of crimes against children, seems to have uncovered more than is politically acceptable at the highest reaches of the British elite. In the 19th of January edition of The Sunday Herald, Neil Mackay sensationally reported that senior members of Tony Blairs government were being investigated for paedophilia and the enjoyment of child-sex pornography. . . .
The allegations are the most serious yet levelled at an administration that prides itself on the inclusion in its ranks of a high quota of controversial and flamboyant homosexual men, and whose First Lady, Cherie Blair, has come under the spotlight for her indulgence in pagan rituals that resemble Freemasonic rites. Unconfirmed information also suggests that the term former Labour Cabinet minister is misleading and that the investigation has identified a surprisingly large number of alleged paedophiles at the highest level of British government, including one very senior cabinet minister
The Blair government has responded by imposing a comprehensive blackout on the story, effectively removing it from the domain of public discussion. Attempts on the part of this journalist to establish why the British media has not followed up on the revelations have met with a wall of silence. Editors and journalists of The Times, The Daily Telegraph, The Guardian, The Independent, The Sunday Times, The Observer, The Sunday Telegraph, The Daily Mail, The Daily Express, The Mirror, The Sun, the BBC, Independent Television News and even The Sunday Herald have refused to discuss the matter.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/guilty-after-sixyear-trial-portugals-highsociety-paedophile-ring-2070112.html
04 September 2010
To most people Portugal's state-run orphanages seemed like a safe haven for thousands of children who had been robbed of their parents. They were called the Casa Pia, or Houses of the Pious.
But for an elite paedophile ring, which included a former ambassador and a prominent television celebrity, Casa Pia orphanages were something entirely different. They were supermarkets stocked with children to abuse. Yesterday, at the conclusion of the longest trial in Portugal's history, seven defendants were convicted of using the orphanages to rape and abuse scores of teenage boys in a case that has sent shockwaves through the country's political elite and raised serious concerns over the efficiency of Portugal's judiciary. Six of the seven were given jail terms of between five and 18 years.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)JohnyCanuck
(9,922 posts)about the cops doing anything to stop his penchant for preying on underage children. I guess when you are friends with prime ministers and royalty - anything goes. Still strange that many ex-cops, ex-BBC employees and entertainers now say Savile's pedophilia and abuse of young people were an open secret, yet we must assume no one in the security services apparently took the trouble to warn UK royals that their very good friend Jimmy Savile was a perverted, sex fiend with a reputation for using underage teenagers for his sexual gratification, and therefore to avoid any possible embarrassment it might be a good idea to avoid unnecessary association with the gentleman.
Cop who caught Jimmy Savile with girl was told to 'clear off, she turns 16 at midnight'
Jimmy Savile told a cop to p*** off when he was caught trying to seduce an under-age girl in his Rolls-Royce.
Ex-PC Paul Leonard says the twisted DJ, who was parked in a lay-by, said: Im waiting for midnight when she turns 16 so p**s off if you want to keep your job.
Mr Leonard, 68, claimed yesterday: There wasnt a copper in Leeds who didnt know Savile was a pervert.
Speaking exclusively to the Mirror, Mr Leonard claimed it was common knowledge in the old Leeds City force that Savile liked them young but his influence meant officers were too scared to confront him.
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Later, at the end of his shift, he recounted the incident to his sergeant who cut him off, saying: Shut up, son, hes got friends in high places. If you know whats good for you, youll leave it there.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/audio-jimmy-savile-told-police-2460910
JohnyCanuck
(9,922 posts)The papers from a 2009 police quiz were released last week following a seven-month battle by the Daily Star Sunday.
But the 26 pages - which exposed the evil pervert as a bully and a liar - came with 96 redactions (crossings out).
Today we can reveal the documents had been vetted by Buckingham Palace - and that the serial sex attacker's royal connections were removed.
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Other references to royalty were also seemingly erased - and during our fight to obtain the records, police let slip Buckingham Palace's involvement.
Tony Smith, the force's information access manager, made the reference as he explained why it was taking so long to release the documents.
He told us that, as well as going to a senior police chief outside the force, the papers had gone "to Buckingham Palace to consider...because they are mentioned in it".
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/346148/Royal-cover-up-Police-censor-Jimmy-Savile-interview-transcript
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)On one hand, protecting the rich and powerful and on the other, blackmailing those that they protect in order to bolster their own influence, power and position.
Great work, if you can get it.
Hoover's FBI tried the same scam in this country.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)Democat
(11,617 posts)It's not clear from the linked article.
He says that others faced the same treatment, yet none of these people entrusted to protect children spoke out at the time?
Not sure if this story is believable or not.
niyad
(113,556 posts)NealK
(1,879 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)that at times I thought humanity's only salvation lay in an asteroid strike and starting over from scratch.
A few people were incensed that I was "rooting" for the extinction of the species.
Now, I just read stories like this, then go off to cry knowing it has happened, it is happening, and will happen over and over again.
Too many rich and powerful people are involved for anything to be done. This story will disappear, as they all do eventually.