GOP candidate insists he is not a hypocrite for having kids use Medicaid program he opposes

[Galraedia]

Source: Raw Story

A Republican candidate for the office of Idaho State Representative insists he is not a hypocrite for opposing Medicaid healthcare coverage for the poor while his children benefit from the program.

NBC News reported earlier this month that Greg Collett, a 41-year-old software developer, has 10 children. Most of those children are enrolled in Medicaid — a federal program he wants to abolish.

Collett said he received a lot of negative feedback due to the report. In a lengthy statement published on his website, he admitted, “Yes, I participate in government programs of which I adamantly oppose.”

But he only participates in government programs like Medicaid because he fears legal repercussions and fines if he doesn’t, he explained. Other government programs have irresistible financial incentives, while others would be impractical to abandon.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/17/gop-candidate-insists-he-is-not-a-hypocrite-for-having-kids-use-medicaid-program-he-opposes/

[hobbit709]

1. The disconnect in their feeble minds is amazing.

[Xipe Totec]

2. Moocher! nt

[indepat]

31. A mooching hypocritical dick-head dip-shit?

[Xipe Totec]

33. Or some reasonable Ayn Randian facsimile nt

[Digital Puppy]

3. R&R'd to shed light on stupidity /nt

[Solly Mack]

4. Does he even hear himself?

Collett concluded by arguing it was acceptable to receive benefits from the government, because doing so was redirecting money away from a corrupt and immoral system.

“Through the redistribution of wealth, government engages in legalized plunder — theft,” he wrote. “It goes far beyond that, however. Our government engages in the most serious of offenses — murder — through wars of aggression, the abomination of abortion, and other brutalities. I do not agree with the sentiment that it is patriotic to pay taxes when our government carries out such crimes. I do not want to see any of my money going towards such a regime. I do not lose any sleep over anything I do to redirect funds towards me, and I uphold the same standard for all.”

[Nay]

5. Sooo, if he thinks it's OK to redirect 'stolen' money (taxes) to Medicaid

because it takes away from the money needed to wage war, abortion, etc., why does he think it's OK to redirect that Medicaid money to HIS family but not to anyone else's family?

Effin' idiot caught with his hand in the till, that's what I think.

[Solly Mack]

7. I like how he complains about the "redistribution of wealth" as "legalized plunder".

Because, you know, he is losing so much of his vast empire of wealth (through taxes) that his 10 kids qualify for Medicaid.

Yet another right-wing poor person that thinks by supporting policies that favor the wealthy he'll be wealthy one day too. He's been brainwashed into voting/acting against his own interests.

But it's OK when he does it... because by taking government aid he is preventing worse from happening. (His thinking, not mine) So his getting Medicaid is really for the good of the country. (again, his thinking, not mine) ...but, of course, that doesn't apply to other people on Medicaid - who are just lazy good for nothings without a higher calling (running for office/opposing Medicaid). (again...his thinking)

Typical right-wing nutterfluffer.

[louslobbs]

12. ^What you said^ n/t

Lou

[DeSwiss]

22. +1000

[Doctor_J]

46. $176, 000 doesn't go as far as it used to.

Poor guy.

[sendero]

17. More idiotic...

.. Libertarian talk. It's getting to where you can't lift a rock without hearing someone spew Atlas Shrugged idiocy.

[Solly Mack]

23. Other programs that he opposes (but uses anyway)

He writes, in part:

“Let me set the record straight. Yes, I participate in government programs of which I adamantly oppose. Many of them, actually. Am I a hypocrite for participating in programs that I oppose? If it was that simple, and if participation demonstrated support, then of course. But, my reason for participation in government programs often is not directly related to that issue in and of itself, and it certainly does not demonstrate support. For instance, I participate in government programs in order to stay out of the courts, or jail, so that I can take care of my family; other things I do to avoid fines or for other financial reasons; and some are simply because it is the only practical choice. With each situation, I have to evaluate the consequences of participating or not participating.

“By way of example, here are a few government programs and policies that I oppose because they do not conform to the proper role of government, yet I participate in them: I am against marriage licenses, but I still got one to get married; I am against the foster care program, but I became a foster parent; I am against property taxes, but I own property and pay the tax; I am against federal ownership of land by the Forest Service and BLM, but I use the land for hiking, backpacking, camping, and fishing; I am against national parks, but I visit them; I am against driver’s licenses, vehicle registration, license plates, and mandated liability insurance, but I comply with all of them to drive; I am against public funding of transportation systems, but I still use them; I am against building permits, fees, and inspections, but I get them as needed; I am against public libraries, but my family uses them; I am against public schools, but I occasionally use their facilities; I am against occupational licensing, but I use the services of individuals and companies that comply with those requirements; I am against USDA inspections, but I still use products that carry their label; I am against the Uniform Commercial Code and designated legal business entities such as corporations, but I use the services of such entities and have set up several of them for myself; I am against the current structure of our judicial system and courts, but I still use them; I am against the 17th Amendment, but I still cast my vote for Senators; and the list could go on and on.”

[Amonester]

36. So the one thing he doesn't oppose, is courting the teahadist crazies like him to get their cash.

And their votes, so he can go sit in gobernment to do nothing all day, or vote to repeal everything good except his pay check.

Just like Ted $crews and co.

[maxsolomon]

45. Poor foster kids to be given to this Rugged Individualist

At least he hasn't moved them to Somalia.

[rocktivity]

6. And may "The Jokes Keep Writing Themselves!"

rocktivity

[ISW]

8. America's head taker!

[bpollen]

9. Translation:

"I'm not a hypo... hippo...hepa... Obama is trying to destroy Amerika!"

[NickB79]

10. Self-deleting

nt

[bobGandolf]

11. CAPITAL B CAPITAL S

Collett concluded by arguing it was acceptable to receive benefits from the government, because doing so was redirecting money away from a corrupt and immoral system.


You can't call it a rationalization, because it's not rational.

[lostincalifornia]

13. he isn't a hypocrite, he is just out of his fu*king mind!!!

[JI7]

14. i'm telling you many/probably most who oppose Govt Programs use it themselves

they think it's ok for them.

[Blasphemer]

29. +1 Absolutely true... nt

[freshwest]

15. Sure, dude!

Republicans, the party of barf

[nobodyspecial]

16. I call bullshit!

"But he only participates in government programs like Medicaid because he fears legal repercussions and fines if he doesn’t, he explained. "

There are no fines or legal repercussions for NOT participating in federal programs. (Insurance mandate NOT in play currently.) Here's the truth -- Without these programs, he could NOT provide food, shelter, medical care for his 10 children. What would happen is that his children would be taken out of his care. He would only be charged if faced with criminal neglect.

Why does he think he has more rights to keep his family intact than other families in similar situations? What about all of the admonitions of "can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em." Asshole

[question everything]

19. Wondered about that, too

Isn't there "income verification" for Medicaid? He is making, what, $170K? How many Medicaid recipients make this kind of money?

I think he should be charged with fraud.

Though I am all for tax money used to pay for his vasectomy. Shudder to think of 10 more like him.

[Xyzse]

43. THIS! +42

[hibbing]

18. Other government programs have irresistible financial incentives

Can someone explain what the heck this means according to him? Does this mean the people on welfare and food stamps living lives of luxury?

Peace

[livingwagenow]

20. "Do as I say, not as I do."

NO GOPer can live up to the 'standards' they want to force upon others.

They are the takers.

[SoapBox]

21. Not a hypocrite? Ya...and I'm a bazillionaire.

[wicket]

24. WOW!

[sakabatou]

25. *facepalm*

[elfin]

26. Seems like a Mormon, and a fundie one at that

Experts at gaming the system to sequentially marry and "divorce" wives and get ex wives and plentiful kids on every program possible to have the taxpayers fund their families.

[DaveJ]

27. This is one of the greatest mysteries to me, of Republican-ism.

I bet Republicans would be found to actually receive more public assistance if it were really investigated.

Much of their "moocher" rhetoric is just projection.

[Bozvotros]

28. Harness the power of whatever keeps their heads from exploding

And you wouldn't need oil, nuclear OR solar power anywhere.

[L0oniX]

30. "The gobment forced me to do it" Epic 4 legged mammal shit!

[daleo]

32. Typical rationalization

What else can you say.

[Marie Marie]

34. If this was a single minority woman who had 10 children on Medicaid, he would be

the first to be whining about not having children that you cannot afford to support without sucking on the Government Teat. But somehow, it is always different when it is they who take Government help. Shameless!

[True_Blue]

44. +1

Exactly! Their hypocrisy drives me nuts.

[IronLionZion]

35. Conservatives tend to think of the individual vs the community, very different logic

he likes when stuff benefits him and his family, but not anyone else. In his mind, its not hypocrisy at all. Even Ron Paul would put in earmarks to help the poor farmers in his district, and then vote against it because of his "principles". They've stated its like objecting to the income tax on principle, but paying it anyway since its there.

I had a 68 year old Republican coworker explain it to me as why he liked Medicare and SS, but not anything else. He wants it only for himself, but he doesn't want either program to be around in 35 years when I would qualify for it. So he hopes that the tea party will dismantle it, but only for future generations so it won't affect him. He was screwed over by pre-existing conditions until he got MediCare. When I pointed out that Medicare was single payer, he said socialism is fine for older people but would be wasted on the young and immigrants.


Another major difference between the ideologies is that we think the future is going to be awesome. Conservatives think the past was awesome but the future is going to suck.

[King_Klonopin]

37. Shamelessness is their strong suit.

Ayn Rand, "Excuse me, I have to go cash my Social Security check now."

Rush Limbaugh, "Excuse me, I have to go cash my unemployment check now."

Sarah Palin, "Excuse me, I have to go spend tax dollars to build a bridge to nowhere, you betcha."

Mitt Romney, "Excuse me, I have to go cash my tax refund check now. I am obligated to pay as little taxes as I can."

Republican Governors, "Excuse us, we have to go cash the 'Stimulus Package' checks we just got from Obama."

Tea Party Morans, "Keep government out of our Medicare!"


Clueless jackholes. Shameless hypocrites.

[B Calm]

38. Finger pointing republicans are all hypocrites!

[lin_e65]

39. 10 kids??

Oh, you're one of those Duggar people. If you can't afford them, then keep it in your pats!

[agentS]

41. I saw somewhere upthread or in article that some/most of the kids were foster kids

Which, if I recall correctly, the foster parents GET STATE MONEY for raising. Hmmm, this guy makes the Reagan "welfare queen' out to be really lazy.
What's with the "millionaires and business-libertarian types on food stamps" stories that are coming out lately? I swear there seems to be more of these idiots every day!

[yellowcanine]

40. So it is stolen money and if he doesn't take it some other less deserving thief will get it.

Well alrighty then!

[idahoblue]

42. With that many kids

He most likely does not pay any taxes. This guy is a moocher, living off the taxpayers.

[rucky]

47. 10 Kids? Medicare should spring for a vasectomy. n/t

[Theyletmeeatcake2]

48. 10 kids !!! Will they be parasites like the old man?

I don't think it matters if its nature or nurture in this case.... They'll all grow up to be pricks!!!!

[DisgustipatedinCA]

49. To spit in his face would be disrespectful of saliva. n/t.