Chardon High School Shooting: Second Student Dies as Alleged Gunman Is Identified
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A second victim of the teenage student who allegedly opened fire at Chardon High School in Ohio has died. Russell King, Jr., 17, was pronounced brain dead at 12:42 a.m. at Ohio's MetroHealth Medical Center, according to the Cuyahoga County Medical Examiner's Office.
The alleged shooter who killed two and wounding three others has been identified as T.J. Lane, according to a fellow student who witnessed the incident and ABC News' Cleveland affiliate WEWS. The attack left "friends laying all over the place" in puddles of blood, one student told ABC News.
Nate Mueller, a junior at the school, was having breakfast with three friends when he heard a loud pop like a firecracker about 7:45 a.m., he told ABC News. A friend yelled, "Duck" and Mueller told ABC News he turned to see fellow student Lane standing by his table. Mueller said Lane took a second shot and saw a friend get hit.
"He was over the table in a pool of blood," Mueller said, and another pal "was on the floor in a puddle of blood next to him." A third friend "had not been hit yet as I jumped over him," Mueller said.
http://news.yahoo.com/chardon-high-school-shooting-gunman-identified-tj-lane-140607186--abc-news.html
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)hlthe2b
(102,358 posts)Nothing but victims all around...
Auggie
(31,186 posts)Cleveland.com / 2-27-12
CHARDON, Ohio
Geauga County court records show the father of the teen who authorities say shot five students at Chardon High School on Monday had been arrested many times for violent crimes against women in his life, including Lane's mother. More than once, police or courts warned him to stay away from the boy and his mother.
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But between 1995 and 1997 the boy's father and mother, Sara A. Nolan, were each charged with domestic violence against each other.
The father was later charged with assaulting a police officer and he served time in prison after trying to suffocate another woman he married several years after his son was born, according to court records.
He held the woman's head under running water and bashed it into a wall, leaving a dent in the dry wall, the court records said.
STORY: http://www.cleveland.com/chardon-shooting/index.ssf/2012/02/parents_of_teen_accused_of_sho.html
MarkCharles
(2,261 posts)taken too seriously, or that sometimes the system just doesn't catch every at-risk kid.
There's a lot of flashing lights in just that single article about the TJ and his family.
Then there is the question, how did he get the guns and who knew he had them.
Just out of curiosity, I'd also like to know which of the victims was the new boyfriend.
Perhaps I'm being too nosy.
cmd
(5,673 posts)Hunting and target shooting were part of the family culture. His grandparents appear to be well to do, well-liked people who tried very hard to be there for the boy when his parents weren't. The former county sheriff was their neighbor and good friend. He had nothing but good things to say about the family.
The victim who just died was the new boyfriend.
My heart goes out to all the families.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)There is no legal way in which the father could have possessed a firearm.
Edit: Oh, just read that he was staying with his grandparents...
MarkCharles
(2,261 posts)a revolver. (What does one hunt with a revolver?)
I also still think the family has major dysfunctional elements, just from the few facts that have come forward so far. I'm not pointing fingers, but I think it is sometimes impossible to reach a young man like this, caught within that dysfunctional unit, even if the grandparents were well-off and "tied hard".
liberal N proud
(60,344 posts)Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)but, it's CHARDON.
yardwork
(61,703 posts)According to the article, the teenage boy who shot and killed and his classmates was lonely and bullied. His father served jail time for assault and other violent crimes. The boy was living with his grandparents. He had been posting things on FB that indicated that he was in crisis and considering violent retribution against others.
There has got to be a better way for our country to handle this than to simply keep picking up the pieces AFTER these adolescents go berserk and destroy lives including their own. There has got to be a way to intervene and provide better mental health care and support.
I'm so tired of the Republicans running around screaming about socialism when what this country needs is a good dose of socialism, as in better social and healthcare safety nets. All our lives depend on it.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)the problem lies in recognizing the problems/warning signs and then getting the person to accept help. How many parents are going to accept that their child is a danger to himself and others? How to you force someone to accept the help? The standards for involuntary commitment to a mental health facility are usually pretty high and rightfully so, the potential for abuse is significant.
yardwork
(61,703 posts)In addition to lack of resources, our nation's cultural approach to mental health care is to stigmatize it. There are few options for help, in fact.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)cmd
(5,673 posts)I retired after 32 years in the lower elementary grades. I frequently saw children with mental disorders, but could never convince a principal or psychologist that even one child had a problem. They had no problem diagnosing me as the one with a problem. It was always the teacher who was doing something wrong when it came to dealing with these children.
TBF
(32,090 posts)rainbow4321
(9,974 posts)Bigmack
(8,020 posts)They were still children. No words are adequate. Ms Bigmack
qanda
(10,422 posts)Be still. Praying for those families.
MarkCharles
(2,261 posts)3 out of 5 targets now dead, and those 3 victims and their families suffered for hours and hours before passing.
CNN covering it, MSNBC not yet covering.