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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:35 PM Oct 2013

Laptops Snowden took to Hong Kong, Russia were a 'diversion'

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - The four laptop computers that former U.S. spy contractor Edward Snowden carried with him to Hong Kong and Moscow were a "diversion" and contained no secrets, according to an ex-CIA official who met with Snowden in Russia this week.

The classified documents that Snowden had downloaded from the U.S. National Security Agency were stored on smaller devices, such as hard drives and thumb drives, and they have not been turned over to the Russian or Chinese authorities, said Ray McGovern, a former Central Intelligence Agency analyst.

On Wednesday, Snowden held a six-hour meeting in Moscow with McGovern and three other former U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials who have all become critics of government surveillance programs.

Snowden, 30, is living in a secret location in Russia, beyond the reach of U.S. authorities who want him on espionage charges because he leaked the details of top-secret electronic spying programs to the media.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/11/us-usa-security-snowden-idUSBRE99A0LK20131011

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karynnj

(59,503 posts)
1. If true, why is McGovern saying how he carried the material - given he is still in Russia
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:40 PM
Oct 2013

The story of taking 4 laptops never made much sense - and I would imagine the Russians and Chinese were smart enough to ask for other devices. There were MANY posts here that he could have info on thumb drives - do you think that we are that much smarter than the KGB?

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
4. Yep, mailing a thumb drive...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:52 PM
Oct 2013

to a co-hort (or multiple) would make much more sense then lugging around laptops.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
5. I don't think so either. In fact, I think McGovern's either full of shit or has been misled......
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:52 PM
Oct 2013

We KNOW for a FACT that Snowden stole secrets and gave info to these two countries. That in itself is espionage, and treason to the United States. But some people around these parts STILL don't get the memo.

PSPS

(13,599 posts)
6. LOL. Another #13. Sorry, but we don't "KNOW for a FACT" any such thing.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:53 PM
Oct 2013

Worshiper/Apologist Hit Parade:

1. This is nothing new
2. I have nothing to hide
3. What are you, a freeper?
4. But Obama is better than Christie/Romney/Bush/Hitler
5. Greenwald/Flaherty/Gillum/Apuzzo/Braun is a hack
6. We have red light cameras, so this is no big deal
7. Corporations have my data anyway
8. At least Obama is trying
9. This is just the media trying to take Obama down
10. It's a misunderstanding/you are confused
11. You're a racist
12. Nobody cares about this anyway / "unfounded fears"
13. I don't like Snowden, therefore we must disregard all of this
14. Other countries do it

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
7. Not even close.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 10:25 PM
Oct 2013

Again, if Snowden was so concerned about us, why make the trip to Moscow? Why give information to our enemies? We know he did; no ad-hominems can change that.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
11. so do Americans
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 10:56 PM
Oct 2013

sometimes because they sport a different color or religion.
sometimes just because someone slapped a label on them.
works like a charm.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,320 posts)
15. Because Moscow had a flight going to Cuba
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 05:29 AM
Oct 2013

and he thought he had documents that would get him there.

Going back to your shouty "We KNOW for a FACT that Snowden stole secrets and gave info to these two countries" - link, please.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
9. where is the full list?
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 10:34 PM
Oct 2013

obviously
"because I know better than some idiot CIA (and several other categories that come up) whistleblower"
belongs on there.

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
13. Russia let in 4 "former U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials" to come & talk to Snowden?
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 02:02 AM
Oct 2013

Including at least 1 ex-CIA agent? Even though they are cracking down on foreign and local NGOs?

Hmmmm....

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
14. But Snowden gave secrets to the Chinese and Russians
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 02:02 AM
Oct 2013

I read it here on DU. To think otherwise means you love Putin.

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