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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:19 AM Oct 2013

No Quick Deal, but Offer by G.O.P. on Debt Shifts the Tone

Source: NY Times

WASHINGTON — President Obama and House Republicans failed to reach agreement on a six-week extension of the nation’s borrowing authority during a meeting Thursday at the White House, but the two sides kept talking, and the offer from politically besieged Republicans was seen as an initial step toward ending the budget standoff.

In statements afterward that struck the most positive tone in weeks of acrimony, House Republicans described their hour-and-a-half-long meeting with Mr. Obama as “a useful and productive conversation,” while the White House described “a good meeting,” though “no specific determination was made” about the Republicans’ offer. Both agreed to continue talks through the night.

People familiar with the meeting said that Mr. Obama pressed Republicans to reopen the government, and that Republicans raised the possibility that financing could be restored by early next week if terms for broad budget negotiations could be reached.

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The president “didn’t say yes, didn’t say no,” said Representative Paul D. Ryan, Republican of Wisconsin and chairman of the House Budget Committee. He added, “We agreed to continue talking and continue negotiating.”



Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/11/us/politics/debt-limit-debate.html?hp&_r=0



I think the fear is that a quick debt deal could actually operate to extend the government shutdown, since Boehner would then have to the well multiple times to get his crazy caucus to (1) support a short debt limit increase; (2) support a short CR; and (3) support a longer term debt limit increase and actually pass a budget for FY 2013-14. Boehner does not have nearly enough juice to pull this off without having several more economy busting fiscal cliff hangers. That being said, if Republicans can pass a clean short debt limit increase on their own, I don't see the President vetoing it, since at least Boehner can show that he can garner the support of the majority of his caucus.
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No Quick Deal, but Offer by G.O.P. on Debt Shifts the Tone (Original Post) TomCADem Oct 2013 OP
Boehner will NOT have the support of the majority of his caucus... chillfactor Oct 2013 #1
KNX in Los Angeles use to give proper information concerning the goings on Iliyah Oct 2013 #2
Good gawd...that station is a joke. tofuandbeer Oct 2013 #4
They are trying to madashelltoo Oct 2013 #3
I was thinking about this earlier...through all of this, one thing the GOP has mistakenly done tofuandbeer Oct 2013 #5

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
1. Boehner will NOT have the support of the majority of his caucus...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:33 AM
Oct 2013

he needs Pelosi to get anything passed in the House..he can NOT do it on his own

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. KNX in Los Angeles use to give proper information concerning the goings on
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:40 AM
Oct 2013

but for the past years its become more right wing on the information given, and on cue at they never mentioned the 6 weeks continued shutdown of the "parital government". Just the debt limit.

How in the dickins can a radio station not mentioned that? Well because the corporate media is still covering for the GOPers by way of Koch Brothers, Heritage, and other allies.

These people don't give a eff about America.

tofuandbeer

(1,314 posts)
4. Good gawd...that station is a joke.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:33 AM
Oct 2013

The way they play the male and female hosts against each other, sounds more like a Saturday Night Live skit than news.
It's obviously scripted and/or controlled. I feel sorry for the poor souls who depend on a paycheck from that station.

madashelltoo

(1,698 posts)
3. They are trying to
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:45 AM
Oct 2013

Make it appear they pressured the President into negotiating with them. He sent them packing back to their drawing board to try again.

tofuandbeer

(1,314 posts)
5. I was thinking about this earlier...through all of this, one thing the GOP has mistakenly done
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:36 AM
Oct 2013

is make the President look very much in control, and very strong.
Just the opposite of what they were trying to do.

I don't think they have any way out of this. They are probably praying for a separate catastrophe to take the headlines, so they can weasel their way out of this mess.

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