White House Issues Veto Threat Over GOP's New 'Supercommittee'

[highplainsdem]

Source: Talking Points Memo

The White House on Tuesday issued a veto threat over a new Republican proposal that would bring back the supercommittee: a bicameral, bipartisan committee to hash out a deal to raise the debt ceiling in exchange for spending reforms, similar to a group created by the 2011 Budget Control Act that failed to craft a long-term deficit reduction deal.

"The Administration strongly opposes House joint passage of H.J. Res. 89 and H.R. 3273, which does nothing to solve the immediate, pressing obligations the Congress has to open the Government and pay its bills," read a statement from the Office of Management and Budget.

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/white-house-issues-veto-threat-over-gop-s-new-supercommittee

[kevinbgoode1]

1. Perhaps the White House should announce that if the U.S. goes into default, ALL bills will

be sent to the Koch Bros. for payment until the government is reopened and the debt ceiling raised. If the Kochs want to play that they should be running the government, perhaps it is time for the American people to make them pay the bills for a change.

[Coyotl]

20. Let's not divert the blame to anyone but the person who is to blame. #GOPshutdown

#GOPshutdown

Google " #GOPshutdown" and click images.

[Tigress DEM]

28. lol lol lol PERFECT Cause and EFFECT I've ever heard mentioned.

THEY broke it, they pay for it!!

[KamaAina]

2. Just when you thought it was safe to go back to Washington...

It's BA-A-ACK!

[Blue Idaho]

3. Bury the Supercommittee idea

then bury the shove you used to bury the Supercommittee idea.

[JimDandy]

4. GOOD, because enough is ENOUGH of this shit!

Just make them do their job and fund the bills they have already passed.

[bucolic_frolic]

5. Maybe the Obama Administration is finally understanding how to play the game

by GOP rules

Make lots of patriotic and reasonable noise

Promise the other side to negotiate

Show how flexible you are

Constantly vacillate between flexibility and rigidity

Keep front and center with the media

Have no intention of doing anything of what you say unless cornered

Blame the other side

Move the goal posts if you're not getting what you want

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That's what it boils down to, 2 sides coming from opposite ends

One wants to avoid default

The other wants to default and blame the other

So the victor will be the side that convinces the public and the media
that they are right on this issue

Obama is on the right side, and the public knows it

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I talked with a guy last weekend who swears this is the END of the GOP
I know we've all read this elsewhere on line, but this guy had his independent
spin on it, and I doubt he read much at all. The party of money can't buy
everything, but they won't go out with a whimper, he said.

[Southside]

6. What is the house doing during this shutdown

Just read a transcript of today's session on cspan. 2 hours spent on one minute rants about the tea party shutdown. Then passing a piece meal legislation to fund Head Start I believe. If this was my job and we stood around talking about getting back to work, I would fire myself.

They were right to suspend their pay. They should suspend the Tea Party members and bring this to a vote. They tried to leech more from Obama, he swatted them off, now go suck somewhere else.

[Uncle Joe]

7. Good.

Thanks for the thread, highplainsdem.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

8. Nothing fails more than failure

and we got the *lovely* "sequester" out of the first "Super Committee". I'm scared to know what we would get out of another failed one. *ugh*



We already have a "Super Committee". It's called Congress and we don't need anything other than for some of its members to do their constitutionally designated jobs- which don't include government shutdowns, debts defaults, partial funding bills, etc.

[kestrel91316]

9. Good. You just keep using that brand new, shiny spine, Mr. President.

NEVER negotiate with terrorists or hostage takers. EVER.

[AAO]

10. He should just invoke the 14th amendment

He would be a hero for doing so. If he has to be the last defender of the constitution, he has to act accordingly.

They could impeach him, but he'd never be convicted.

[SunSeeker]

17. +1

[robinlynne]

11. why can't Pelosi legally bring a bill up before the House? may be a stupid question,

but I really want to know. Why can't she stand up as minority leader and bring up a bill for a vote? What would happen?
Is only one person in the Country permitted to bring up a bill to vote on in the House?

[geek tragedy]

12. Speaker calls the shots. House is a dictatorship. nt

[robinlynne]

13. Is that written into the law?

[geek tragedy]

14. House Rules. Pelosi was actually much more of a hard ass than Boehner has been. nt

[robinlynne]

15. found this on wikipedia: makes me think something can be done in the House:

To speak, members must seek the presiding officer's recognition. The presiding officer may call on members as they please, and may therefore control the flow of debate. The presiding officer also rules on all points of order but such rulings may be appealed to the whole House.

Wondering how this appeal process happens. I'm sure greater minds than mine have gone through these scenarios. the truth is it is ridiuclous that one person, one single person, controls Congress. At the same time, don't know if moderate Rs would have the courage to amke a vote happen, but I bet they could.

[geek tragedy]

16. Moderate Republicans could revolt and end this.

Unfortunately, moderate Republicans do not exist.

[Thor_MN]

18. Moderate Republicans are now either extinct or, by definition, conservative Democrats

I think this lunacy ends when a group of rational republicans realize that the party is truly dead and break ranks. Net effect, the thugs lose the house and spiral into the void.

[Southside]

26. I assume that is Boehner's nightmare

Tea Party caucus goes ballistic on the GOP for acting in the best interests of the nation. Moderate republicans faithful to Boehner, I guess a hard 100 to 125, pull further away from the Tea party and try to move pass ObamaCare. Boehmer loses his control over the entire 220.

[demwing]

22. Yes, only one sets the legislative agenda-the Speaker

but anyone can be the speaker. The speaker doesn't have to come from the majority party, and doesn't even have to be a member of congress.

[BumRushDaShow]

24. She can but she needs 218 signatures on a "Discharge Petition". nt

[iamthebandfanman]

19. damn big government republicans. n/t

[MNBrewer]

21. Fie upon the Supercommittee!

[Sunlei]

23. "does nothing to solve the immediate, pressing obligations the Congress has to open the Government"

[Left Coast2020]

25. Boner Is just pulling stuff out of his rear end

The sane ones have to be sweating about now because they see the big picture

[cosmicone]

27. Good. Repukes are seeking a face saving way out

Mr. President, we have got them on the run ... now keep up, arrest, put handcuffs on them and throw them in the pokey until they submit and pass a clean CR.

[Tigress DEM]

29. BUT we could send DEMS with counter proposals. SINGLE PAYER & 40% tax on the top 1%.

[Igel]

30. And they could counter

that the president's job is to sign bills, so what's he doing threatening to not do his job?


Simplistic reductionist thinking has never daunted the intellectual capacity of the American voter. The more simplistic and reductionist, the more they revel in the challenge.

[Tigress DEM]

31. YABUT at least we'd be on record asking for what we want.

They are going to counter with anything and everything, the bigger lie the better, so no use really in not at least asking for the MAX that we'd want and negotiating back from there.

[LaPera]

32. Stick to your guns big O - Don't budge

[cstanleytech]

33. Its a trap. They probably want to do the same stunt of inserting mandatory cuts

if no agreement is reached and then will just sabotage the committee so the cuts go into place for social programs yet anything like military cuts they will not follow through on just like they did before.