Stamford woman killed in Capitol shooting

[brooklynite]

Source: New Haven Register

WASHINGTON >> A Stamford woman driving a black car with a young child in the car tried to ram through a White House barricade Thursday, then led police on a chase that ended in gunfire outside the Capitol, witnesses and officials said.

A law enforcement source identified the woman to the New Haven Register as Miriam Carey, a 34-year-old dental hygienist.

Police say they are searching the Woodside Green condominium complex in Stamford in relation to the shooting.

Read more: http://www.nhregister.com/general-news/20131003/stamford-woman-killed-in-capitol-shooting

[Rebellious Republican]

1. Sad, very sad. I will stand by while I wait for more news.

If the GOP wants totally anarchy, then they will get it while desperate people will do desperate things. Tali ban, teabaggers, right wing ideologues, guess what, it is coming to a neighborhood next to you!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

4. 1) Stamford + Lexus = rich, 2) She had a history of mental health issues.

If I am not mistaken, ObamaCare has increased coverage for mental health than most insurance plans.

[KoKo]

8. But, folks with Mental Health issues aren't covered YET... Just Saying..

[dgibby]

14. According to MSNBC,

the car was leased, she lived in a complex, and she was a dental assistant. If she was rich, she must have had another source of income.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. Average income of dental assistants in Connecticut is over $90,000.00 per year. nt

[dgibby]

19. Damn! I should have done that instead of being an RN. n/t

[Myrina]

21. Yeah but what's the cost of living in that area?

n/t

[freshwest]

31. If she had a mental breakdown, income level doesn't matter, though. Maybe drugs?

[avaistheone1]

35. Dental assistants or dental hygienists?

Hygienists are usually paid a lot more than dental assistants.

I have never heard of a dental assistan being paid anything close to $90k.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

40. Dental Hygienist. nt

[12AngryBorneoWildmen]

22. My guess

She's in love with her hard right-wing, birther boss/dentist who's married and she's trying to impress him.

[freshwest]

34. AFAIK, yes. It's been needed since the 90s when the GOP slashed it.

They believe mental illness is a character and or moral defect and not an ailment. Or a sin, saying that severe mental illness is demon possession.

They claim a woman who wants an abortion is unfit to make the decision, because to consider such proves she is incompetent, thus should have no say so.

Likely caused by liberalism which they call a disease. Confederate leaders held that equality as proposed by the Founding Fathers was delusional, a denial of natural law and God's Will, based on the inferiority of POC and all women, too.

They haven't changed their message much, either.

[penultimate]

38. Infiniti, not a Lexus...

[SunSeeker]

2. That poor child. What a horrific ordeal. nt

[KoKo]

9. She might have been sleeping. Videos of the Police Officer carrying her

showed her well cared for and well dressed. He was holding her like he might have his own little kid or Grandkid.

So...I can't fault the Mother for her child or the DC Police for their handling of her (because the videos show the PO scooped her up and was holding her like he was his own.

The mother must have taken good care of her because her hair was done and her clothing was the same as any of us Mothers would dress our little toddlers. IOWD's the little kid didn't look neglected.

Who knows what the mother's story is. But, the videos don't show a neglected child. But, then those are just the videos but she wasn't crying. More like she was awakened from nap and didn't know what was going on.

[SunSeeker]

26. She could not have slept through those shootings and collisions.

But I am glad to hear she is ok. Sounds like her mom had mental health issues and snapped. If the baby looked well cared for, the mom obviously had lucid moments...she even had a job as a dental hygienist according to reports. She might have been bipolar. I knew someone bipolar at work who was a great mom....until she hit one of her manic phases. Then she would run out into middle of the intersection thinking she had a force field protecting her.

[Hulk]

3. Am just wondering if she was also "a shooter"?

I know this would be a "death wish" to attack the White House. I'm just wondering if she was "armed and dangerous", or just a lunatic on a rampage? Will wait to learn more.

[PatrynXX]

5. Until the facts come out for now I think it was overkill

shoulda disabled the car.

[bklyncowgirl]

11. They may have suspected a car bomb. Sad to say but better safe than sorry.

Seriously, if the car had been loaded with explosives this could have been an even greater disaster. In this day and age it's hard to fault the police.

[Lenomsky]

13. Car Bomb?

Does that happen often in America?

Sad loss of a life but jumping at the terrorism angle .. really?

[dgibby]

18. IIRC,

the Boston terrorists had bombs.

[Lenomsky]

42. So?

Does that mean Police just shoot first and think later?
Is this because it's the Capital thus shooting became necessary to protect the White House.
The whole area was teeming with Police.

There are more people with mental health problems in USA than walking/driving around with bombs.

I watch Cops TV Series where drivers run wild and not many of them get shot.

We were bombed rather often in UK by certain factions of a Political Party but Police didn't simply shoot first!
We've had a few high profile Middle Eastern Bombings.
Glasgow Airport was Bombed (almost) a first in Scottish recent history.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014612620

This is what happens when Police in UK use weapons at will >>

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brazilian_shot_by_police_on_London_Underground_was_not_acting_suspiciously

[reddread]

43. no. but we sure lit em up in Iraq. Who do we shoot to fix that?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=612134

[Rebellious Republican]

12. Fractions of a second, congress critters, the senate, the white house?

Honestly, what do think you would do given the current circumstances. Easy to stand on the sidelines and make a judgment, hindsight is 20/20.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. Very difficult to disable a car on short notice in urban setting. Care about ricochets. No tire stri

There is no time to set up tire strips the way there would be on an interstate with exits blocked and long distances involved.

In an urban setting you have to be careful about ricochets when shooting a gun at a low angle to try to hit tires. Pistols are low-powered for that kind of task anyway.

[dgibby]

17. Right.

She'd already tried to crash through the WH gate, led police on a high speed chase through DC traffic (reaching speeds of 80mph), hit and injured a secret service agent, crashed into police cars, refused to get out of the car when ordered to do so by police, endangered officers who had her car surrounded, then sped off toward the Capitol. In the meantime, police had no idea if she was armed or had a bomb.

I'm sorry she had mental health issues and I'm sorry she was killed, but I don't think the police had a choice in this situation.

[SaveAmerica]

20. I think when word got out that she'd hit the secret service guy

(the one who went up over her car) they felt they had a more serious situation on their hand. In the video you see her ramming into the police car behind her a couple times and maneuvering to get around/away from there. At that point they didn't fire on her and were holding back (for orders? or to see what she was going?), then when she got out of the video's view is where they said she hit the secret service and the firing started soon after. I think they were trying to be cautious until she broke their barricade and hit the guy.

[Kennah]

27. Law enforcement would like to have that ability, but it just doesn't exist

Video makes it pretty clear that officers used incredible restraint.

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/all-in-/53181097#53181097

[Bay Boy]

41. Not sure what the Arabic reporter was saying but...

...I'm guessing along the lines of "Crazy fucking Americans! I need to get back to the safety of Syria!"

[christx30]

33. And if she had killed someone while

they were trying to contain her?

[littlewolf]

6. nope ... no gun

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/03/20805397-woman-shot-and-killed-by-capitol-police-after-chaotic-chase-from-white-house?lite

[KoKo]

10. Latest reports that I've seen..was that she didn't shoot at anyone...but,

that the Police and SS Agents didn't know what she was doing ...but took "extra care" until she became so erratic in evading them that they really had to do something...because it's their job to do SAFETY in DC and Protect President and Capitol from folks they don't know who are threatening.

I thought (from the released videos) that the Capitol Police and SS were restrained..and took time to try to figure out what they were dealing with...but, she was so erratic that they had to do something. And, they did.

[JoePhilly]

24. Yea, there's lots of info we need to wait to hear, but I agree that ...

... once she apparently crashed into a police car, in what appears to be an attempt to get away ... she was a danger to people other than law enforcement.

If she's willing to crash into law enforcement, she could do worse to the public.

Still lots of reasons to withhold judgement, but if that aspect holds true, the action of the police is more justified.

[davidpdx]

28. Definitely so much more to be learn about this

It is a bizarre incident and even worse that her young child was in the car. I hope there is someone who will take care of him or her given the loss of the mother.

[JoePhilly]

29. assuming that the child is hers.

So far, I have not heard if the child was hers or not ... if hers ... the situation is that much worse.

[KoKo]

7. K&R...for Report from Local Newspaper. It's an interesting read.

[Rebellious Republican]

23. Correction to the news article "A Sanford Florida woman"....

Sorry my faux pas, just thought if I added the "Florida" in the title it would get more attention.

[Jesus Malverde]

25. EXCLUSIVE VIDEO: Shooting near U.S. Capitol - Alhurra TV #capitolshooting

[freshwest]

30. I don't think I've ever seen such reckless driving in my life. That poor little girl. Must have been

screaming all through that.

Went to get details, only found RWNJs calling it Obama's 'vile words' that made her do it.

Plus the anarchists saying it was on over reaction on the part of the Capitol police. If they'd seen this video, I bet they'd think differently.

More likely some sort of drug was involved, that is some driving there, no regard for the lives of others or her own but most importantly, her own child.

This is tragic and there it is on video. Thanks for clearing up my questions.

Terrible!

[Incitatus]

32. Her car was a deadly weapon.

Thankfully no one else was killed by her actions. I don't think shooting out a tire works in real life like it does in the movies. This was very unfortunate tragedy and a yet another example of why we need better mental healthcare in this country.

[avaistheone1]

36. Why couldn't they have shot her tires out rather than kill this woman?

There certainly was enough guns and police there to have done something like that rather than kill this poor woman.

[telclaven]

39. Because shooting tires is useless

Ever run over a nail? Get a puncture flat? How long did it take to notice? Tires don't explode and flip a car over like on TV

[Jeneral2885]

37. To all who says she should have been shot

perhaps then you should move to the UK and see how it is when officers do you have guns.