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Crabby Appleton

(5,231 posts)
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 02:51 PM Oct 2013

Gay Florida teen Kaitlyn Hunt pleads no contest as part of deal

Source: CNN

Vero Beach, Florida (CNN) -- Kaitlyn Hunt, the 19-year-old who has been jailed in Florida over a sexual relationship she had with a 14-year-old girl, pleaded no contest Thursday to five charges as part of a deal brokered by prosecutors and her attorneys.

Hunt pleaded no contest to two counts of misdemeanor battery, misdemeanor contributing to the dependency of a child and two counts of felony interference with child custody.

The felony charges originate from the times she picked up the 14-year-old against the girl's parents' wishes.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/03/justice/florida-kaitlyn-hunt-plea-deal/

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Gay Florida teen Kaitlyn Hunt pleads no contest as part of deal (Original Post) Crabby Appleton Oct 2013 OP
it's better deal than any man would have gotten after everything she did leftyohiolib Oct 2013 #1
I'm under the impression an individual recently received a 30-day sentence for raping a student LanternWaste Oct 2013 #2
The judge was also fired for it, and the case is under review. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #13
I'm afraid I still do not see the double-standard which is being alleged. LanternWaste Oct 2013 #14
You found one instance AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #15
Then I'm sure we'll be presented with an objective comparison of sentences for like-cases... LanternWaste Oct 2013 #16
I actually don't support the idea of a double standard. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #17
Were these two... CSStrowbridge Oct 2013 #19
Um, no, their relationship was never legal. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #20
You just HAVE to stir the pot Kelvin Mace Oct 2013 #3
i dont like double standards leftyohiolib Oct 2013 #4
a middle-aged teacher just got 30 days jail for raping his 14 year old student. magical thyme Oct 2013 #6
Bullshit CSStrowbridge Oct 2013 #18
Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #5
you must be a treat at dinner parties maxsolomon Oct 2013 #9
Can't believe all the hate on here. tblue Oct 2013 #7
Opinions like that... Lancero Oct 2013 #21
14 yrs old is child molestation 7962 Oct 2013 #22
"she doesn't appear yet to be a serial predator" NCTraveler Oct 2013 #30
Thank you. I think both girls tblue Oct 2013 #34
She was smart to take the offer, especially after the repeatedly violated the no contact. tammywammy Oct 2013 #8
There was not a no contact order between her mother and the other girl davidpdx Oct 2013 #24
From the court filing for the revocation of pretrial release Crabby Appleton Oct 2013 #26
Again the girl contact her davidpdx Oct 2013 #27
No, Hunt contacted the girl in many ways after the no-contact order Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #33
In a few years, that girl is still going to be gay Ash_F Oct 2013 #10
"Straight Florida teen Jane Public pleads no contest as part of deal" KamaAina Oct 2013 #11
+1 Skeletor Oct 2013 #32
Guess her lawyer was finally able to talk a little sense into her snooper2 Oct 2013 #12
I don't think it proper to call her "gay". She's not gay in the traditional sense. She's a pedophile Pterodactyl Oct 2013 #23
The pedophile talking point is getting so old and is further from the truth davidpdx Oct 2013 #28
So she's NOT a pedophile? Is that your claim? Pterodactyl Oct 2013 #29
No, she's probably not a pedophile. Bradical79 Oct 2013 #35
So maybe she's into "barely legal". Which would make her a hebephile and a child abuser. Pterodactyl Oct 2013 #36
Maybe now that she's taken the deal the sickos will stop stalking her and her family davidpdx Oct 2013 #25
Hunt was verbally abusive to the younger girl, kiva Oct 2013 #31
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
2. I'm under the impression an individual recently received a 30-day sentence for raping a student
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:38 PM
Oct 2013

I'm under the impression a male individual in Montana recently received a 30-day sentence for raping a young student who then went on to commit suicide before the trial started...

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
14. I'm afraid I still do not see the double-standard which is being alleged.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 04:53 PM
Oct 2013

Yes, the judge was fired.. however, only after a wee bit of public outcry. Additionally, the judge apologized for many of the things he said, but did not apologize for the sentence he handed down, and actually continued to rationalize it.

So I'm afraid I still do not see the double-standard which is being alleged.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. Then I'm sure we'll be presented with an objective comparison of sentences for like-cases...
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 04:58 PM
Oct 2013

Then I'm sure we'll be presented with an objective and peer-reviewed comparison of sentences for like-cases based off of standard sampling rates to better validate the allegation of double-standards...

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
17. I actually don't support the idea of a double standard.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:16 PM
Oct 2013

There are certainly men that get off with such light sentences. I vehemently disagree with the example you grabbed though, that was clearly an aberration. Most seem to get longer, but there is a larger pool of men getting caught doing this, so could simply be normalcy bias. We don't even hear in the news about most men that do it.

But the defense's contention was that she wouldn't have been prosecuted at ALL if she had been male, and that's just not the case. Her family also tried to make it about the fact that she is gay, and that is simply not evident at all. I think that allegation actually does the real civil rights movement a huge disservice.

But yes, I will certainly step away from the double-standard claim, as I have absolutely no data to support it, and I suspect it isn't true.

CSStrowbridge

(267 posts)
19. Were these two...
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:44 PM
Oct 2013

Were these two going to the same school? Did they begin dating while their relationship was legal? Then it is not the same.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
20. Um, no, their relationship was never legal.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:50 PM
Oct 2013

Not the sexual part anyway. It was thought to be early on when the media was mis-reporting their ages, but the court documents showed otherwise.

And you'll probably never find two cases exactly the same with different gender identities swapped around. You'd have to search long and hard anyway, and the majority of these cases never even make the news.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
6. a middle-aged teacher just got 30 days jail for raping his 14 year old student.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:56 PM
Oct 2013

I agree. I don't like double standards. That middle-aged teacher was *much* older than his minor victim. He was in a position of authority and abused that authority.

4 months and a couple years probation would have still been too little for him, but 4x what he got.

A teenage boy may or may not have gotten off easier than Ms. Hunt, depending on circumstances.

It's not about double-standards. It's about how much justice you can afford to buy.

CSStrowbridge

(267 posts)
18. Bullshit
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:41 PM
Oct 2013

Do you know how many senior guys in high school date someone in eighth grade? Plenty.
Do you know how many of those ever get involved with the cops as the result of their relationship? Roughly zero.

Response to Crabby Appleton (Original post)

tblue

(16,350 posts)
7. Can't believe all the hate on here.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 04:02 PM
Oct 2013

Yeah, Kaitlyn Hunt messed up badly, and she's been punished, so celebrate that if you want to. She's paying her dues, she doesn't appear yet to be a serial predator, so I don't think she deserves to be vilified for life. The greater harm to her girlfriend may just be all this negative publicity. I think statutory rape involving teenage lovers is different from other kinds of abuse. In this case rape isn't rape, and it sure isn't a felony. IMHO, of course.

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
21. Opinions like that...
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 06:10 PM
Oct 2013

This specific case of rape isn't rape and doesn't deserve a felony conviction is a prime example of why rape is so prevalant - People try to justify the crime, which leads to people thinking things like this are ok.

Rape is rape, no matter the circumstances.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
30. "she doesn't appear yet to be a serial predator"
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 10:07 AM
Oct 2013

I think that is a very important point to make. Often, when talking about sex crimes with minors, we are talking about individuals who can be put in the category of a "predator". The distinction needs to be made in this instance that she appears to not be a "predator".

tblue

(16,350 posts)
34. Thank you. I think both girls
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:53 AM
Oct 2013

have been punished enough. Nobody should go to prison for this, not in this particular case. That's my opinion.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
8. She was smart to take the offer, especially after the repeatedly violated the no contact.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 04:04 PM
Oct 2013

They should go after Kaitlyn Hunt's mother for contacting the victim too.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
24. There was not a no contact order between her mother and the other girl
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 10:54 PM
Oct 2013

and it was her that contact Kate's mother. The misinformation is just astounding.

Crabby Appleton

(5,231 posts)
26. From the court filing for the revocation of pretrial release
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 02:30 AM
Oct 2013

From the court filing for the revocation of pretrial release

http://media2.wptv.com/documents/kaitlyn%20hunt%20violation.pdf

19. In addition to the contact by the defendant, the state is in possession of text messages from the defendant’s mother, Kelley Hunt Smith, sent to the child victim on March 26, 2013. These messages were sent after the court issued the “no contact” order. From the context of the messages, the defendant’s mother learned of the unlawful contact and thereafter initiated improper, ostensibly illegal, contact with the child victim. In the messages, the defendant’s mother tampered with the child victim. She solicited the child victim to obstruct the judicial process, instructing her to destroy the evidence of unlawful contact. Specifically, Kelley Hunt Smith texted the child victim, “Delete EVERYTHING….My # is ###-###-#### my email is XXXXXXX PLEASE delete everything and make sure NO ONE finds out you’ve spoken to Kate at all.”


which could support a charge of witness tampering or obstruction of justice against the mother.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
27. Again the girl contact her
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 04:05 AM
Oct 2013

The document is referring to the no contact order to Kate Hunt, but names no reference to a no contact order for her mother. I doubt they would release the texts from the girl showing when she text Kate's mother.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
33. No, Hunt contacted the girl in many ways after the no-contact order
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 10:59 AM
Oct 2013

That's why she was jailed in August - for violating the no-contact order. It's online somewhere.

Fortunately, this is at an end and Hunt will not have to go on the sex offender list and can eventually get her record purged as long as she now complies with the court orders. That's as much as can be expected given her actions.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
10. In a few years, that girl is still going to be gay
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 04:31 PM
Oct 2013

Hope the parents realize that.

Not defending Ms. Hunt's actions or anything.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
12. Guess her lawyer was finally able to talk a little sense into her
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 04:43 PM
Oct 2013

Now the country can collectively begin to move forward

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
28. The pedophile talking point is getting so old and is further from the truth
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 04:07 AM
Oct 2013

She was in a relationship with another girl. Was she wrong? Yes. Is she going to pay for it? Yes.

If you want to talk about sickos why don't you look at the people who have stalked and harassed her family.

Pterodactyl

(1,687 posts)
36. So maybe she's into "barely legal". Which would make her a hebephile and a child abuser.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:32 AM
Oct 2013

She's scum. Lock her up.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
25. Maybe now that she's taken the deal the sickos will stop stalking her and her family
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 10:55 PM
Oct 2013

There is a group of particularly sick people who have been stalking and threatening the family both online and through phone calls. Anyone that does that should be in jail.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
31. Hunt was verbally abusive to the younger girl,
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 10:42 AM
Oct 2013

and her mother aided her in the crazy - there are links in these threads from August:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023468133#

and

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10023504845

Post 36: Check out the Court filing and see what was in some of those 20,000 texts that this stupid young woman sent to the girl: http://media2.wptv.com/documents/kaitlyn%20hunt%20violation.pdf .

Gems like "Fuck you...you're stupid...you want me to go in jail...You're such a messed up person" and "So you aren't going to lie for me?"

If I were the girl's parents I wouldn't want my kid hanging out /dating/having sex with someone who sent them video of themselves (Kate) masturbating, called the girl stupid and wanted her to lie in court.

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