US Capitol Police: Capitol in Lockdown; Reports of Gunshots and Injured Capitol Police Officer

[FSogol]

Source: ABC News

US Capitol Police: Capitol in lockdown; reports of gunshots and injured Capitol police officer.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/white-house-meeting-boehner-obama-negotiate-20451526

[Ellipsis]

1. Injuriies reported... (Capital Police) n/t

[Purveyor]

2. CNN reporting the shooting occurred near the Hart Office Building. eom

[cyberswede]

3. Reuters: Reports of shots fired outside Capitol, several injured: U.S. Capitol Police

http://www.reuters.com/news/us

Updated banner: Breaking News: Some Capitol offices in lockdown after shooting

[byronius]

4. The Talibaggers on the ABC News comments at that link are cheering.

They think it's the Civil War starting.

Fuck these anarchists.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

43. Meanwhile at FR

[florida08]

49. damn these teahadists

truly nuts

[Spitfire of ATJ]

68. They are cheering it all on from the safety of their keyboards.

[Blue Owl]

5. The shut's gettin' real...

[brooklynite]

6. Spoke to a friend -SC on lockdown as well

[hedgehog]

9. Senate Chamber?

[brooklynite]

18. Supreme Court

[rdking647]

7. From 911 operator on twitter

GUN SHOTS AT CAPITOL BUILDING: -MORE THAN 13 SHOTS -ONE OFFICER INJURED -CAPITOL STILL ON LOCKDOWN -SHELTER IN PLACE -SUSPECT IN CUSTODY

[mnhtnbb]

13. Neither CNN nor MSNBC are reporting any of this--just everyone in lockdown.

[tk2kewl]

14. SUSPECT IN CUSTODY

Let's hope so.

[Justice]

8. Capitol police officer - is he on duty but not getting paid???????????????????????????

[Ellipsis]

12. correct n/t

[Sunlei]

22. Cap. police & our national security are exempt from the shutdown effects.

[Ranchemp.]

39. Capitol Police are still being paid,

they're exempt from the shutdown.
US Park Police are being furloughed.

[mwrguy]

10. Just someone exercising their god-given 2nd amendment rights

Same old same old.

[wyldwolf]

11. here come the crazies

[redstatebluegirl]

15. A friend of mine is "sheltering in place" in the Senate Office Building

sounds scary!

[brooklynite]

16. NBC - apparently a car chased by Police led to shooting near Capitol...

...then car drove off hitting Capital Police officer.

[Sunlei]

27. reports now 1 driver rammed WH checkpoint. shots fired from ss/police. Its over now.

[wyldwolf]

17. "Started at the Whitehouse"

[Ranchemp.]

19. Seems to have nothing to do with what's going on in the Capitol.

The reports are suggesting that it was a high speed chase that started elsewhere and happened to enter the Capitol vicinity.
Waiting for more info before I place any blame on anyone, more likely someone trying to flee the police.

[hedgehog]

20. Let's hope this report is correct!

Most criminals are pretty stupid, but try to escape the police by driving past the White House to the Capitol...

[wyldwolf]

21. MSNBC says it began with an attempted White House breach

[Ranchemp.]

24. Things are really confused right now,

wouldn't surprise me if it's a false report.
It's not like the news corp. have gotten reports wrong before.

[Bosonic]

23. BREAKING: US Capitol lockdown declared over (AFP)

BREAKING: US Capitol lockdown declared over

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/385840716695363584

[mnhtnbb]

25. Lifing the shelter in place order. Injured Capitol police officer helicoptered out from The Mall.

Apparently this started with an attempted breech at the White House.
Secret Service pursued a fleeing vehicle. Shots fired near the Hart Building.
Suspect in custody.

[tonekat]

26. Local station coverage

Says whoever was in the Black Infinity may be female and has been taken away in an ambulance, but not official.

[Berlin Expat]

28. Any Freepers unaccounted for?

[ErikJ]

29. Senator said he heard someone yell "Second Constitution!"

Last edited Thu Oct 3, 2013, 07:02 PM - Edit history (2)

On MSNBC at capitaol right after shooting Bernie Sanders said he heard 5 shots in rapid succession. One person next to him said he heard someone shout "second Constitition". Bernie asked him "Really?" So far I guess I'm the only one in the US that heard this exchange. The person yelling might have been saying "2nd and Constitution".

[Sunlei]

65. "One said he heard someone" <<<------ "someone"

[Saviolo]

30. The right wingers on Twitter

... are all already crying "False Flag" as loud as their chubby little fingers will let them. Just do a search for "#falseflag" on Twitter to see the froth flying.

Also serves as a good touchstone of who to avoid.

[PasadenaTrudy]

31. Great timing..

I was just listening to this...

[WCLinolVir]

48. Beautiful song.

[mnhtnbb]

32. MSNBC reporting it was woman who tried to ram a White House Security Gate

then fled in vehicle with Secret Service and DC police chasing.
Got out of her vehicle and engaged gunfire near the Hart Building.
She is in custody.

[Lasher]

33. Attempt to Ram White House Gate Ends With Female Suspect Dead

An attempt to ram the White House gates ended with shots fired at the U.S. Capitol, senators put under lockdown and a female suspect dead, sources told ABC News.

A Capitol police officer was also reported shot, sources said.

"We heard pops that sounded like shots," said Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa told ABC News.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/shots-us-capitol-puts-senators-lockdown/story?id=20460948

[Bosonic]

34. #BREAKING: Source says female suspect reported dead on scene at U.S. Capitol. (ABC)

#BREAKING: Source says female suspect reported dead on scene at U.S. Capitol.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/385839882427305984

[mnhtnbb]

38. Haven't heard this confirmed.

[Bosonic]

40. It gets weirder (according to ABC News)

Just in: Source tells ABC News child found unhurt in car of possible suspect in US Capitol shooting

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/385846357308633088

[Ash_F]

69. That looks like an infiniti G35 or similar.

Those are expensive cars. I wonder what her story was.

[Ellipsis]

35. Secret Service injured when his car was upended by one of the Capitol's electronic barricades

Secret Service injured when his car was upended by one of the Capitol's electronic barricades as it rose out of the ground

[Lasher]

41. Suspect's car wasn't upended. The Secret Service vehicle was.

One SS agent injured when that happened.

[Ellipsis]

45. Thanks... read it wrong on Abc's site

[Lasher]

51. No worries. We're all pitching in the best we can.

This is an excellent thread, actually.

[mnhtnbb]

36. Whoa! MSNBC reporting female suspect was shot and taken away in ambulance.

Capitol policeman was injured--but not shot--who was helicoptered out.

[DonCoquixote]

37. prediction

if this person is an arab, a latino, or anyone which skin darker than coffee with heavy cream, the right wing will seize on it,
if it turns out to be yet another lonewolf mentally ill person who just happens to be a tea party/avid reader of Glenn beck, they will be silent.

[RedSpartan]

42. This is like predicting the sun will rise in the east tomorrow.

[mnhtnbb]

44. Now hearing that the woman had a child in the car! Reported by Pete Williams

of NBC.

Car chase 80 mph--ran several red lights--passes the Capitol, crashes the car,
woman shot by Capitol police. Capitol policeman injured by the car--not shot. No condition known of woman or child. Do not
know whether woman is alive or dead. Eye witnesses report the child
being removed from the car. No motive known at this point.

[Lasher]

47. ABC News: Child found in car after Capitol incident

WASHINGTON - October 3, 2013 (WPVI) -- A source told ABC News that a child was found in a car at the center of an incident at the U.S. Capitol on Thursday that sparked a lockdown.

The child was not injured. ABC News previously reported that a female suspect was dead at the scene.

It began with an attempt to ram the White House gates, ABC News reported. Then, according to ABC News, Secret Service pursued a suspect from the White House to the Capitol.

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/national_world&id=9272736

[WCLinolVir]

52. My heart goes out to the poor child.

Just as much a victim as anyone. Maybe more so.

[blackspade]

46. Another nut fell out of the tree?

[sofa king]

50. I'm going to hell for saying this:

The person appears to have blamed the President, but it was Congress that killed her. Irony.

[Lasher]

53. I'm not sure she's dead.

Conflicting reports on that so far.

[Ellipsis]

56. ABC says suspect killed. (link)

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/shots-us-capitol-puts-senators-lockdown/t/story?id=20460948&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

[mnhtnbb]

58. Chief of Capitol Police just reported he had no info on the condition of the woman

didn't know if she was alive or dead.

No confirmation from NBC regarding her condition.

[Ellipsis]

61. MSNBC just confirmed shes dead.

[Benton D Struckcheon]

57. Aargh! Martini made ya? n/t

[sofa king]

59. Sadly, no.

It is a sober observation all my own, unfortunately.

[florida08]

54. MSNBC

Reporting it was near the Capitol. She tried to ram the WH gate. No police shot. She was armed and has been shot

[WCLinolVir]

55. If she is dead, it's suicide by cop.

And what a horrible situation if that child is hers. I could never do that a child. It makes me so angry.

[florida08]

60. Second Constitiution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Constitution_of_the_United_States

The Second Constitutional Convention of the United States is a controversial proposal made by a small but increasing group of scholars and activists from both left and right for a substantive effort to reform politics in the United States by means of overhauling the current United States Constitution. The current Constitution in Article V describes several ways in which the current constitution could be altered, but that in any event, 38 of the 50 states would be needed to ratify any changes. While in 2011, the number of voices calling for such a Constitutional Convention were small in number, there were reports of state legislatures leaning in the direction of substantive constitutional reform, based in part on widespread dissatisfaction with the American political process at the national level. In contrast, however, analyst David O. Stewart, writing in the Huffington Post, suggested that most Americans would "recoil from the disruption" of a possible second Constitution.

[KinMd]

63. The woman had a young child in the car, who's apparently unharmed

[hamsterjill]

67. Thank goodness the child was not hit!

n/t

[jwirr]

79. Thank you. I was wondering about that.

[mnhtnbb]

62. MSNBC now reporting the suspect was shot and killed.

[Sunlei]

64. kind of sad. I hope this was not some innocent person with some type of medical condition.

[KinMd]

66. Channel 4 in DC is reporting, woman driving car is dead, was 33yo and had Connecticut plates on car

[pediatricmedic]

70. Very strange, any motive yet?

What could cause a 33 year old mother to ram a gate and engage police in a gun battle with their child present?

Huge mental breakdown of some sort.

[Ranchemp.]

71. There's doubts now that the woman was even armed.

[KinMd]

72. The driver had no gun

[catchnrelease]

73. Someone desperate?

Someone that was on WIC or some kind of financial supplement that has been cut off and doesn't know how they will feed their child now? That seems kind of dramatic and probably is not true, but that's what came to my mind.

[Sky Masterson]

76. She drove a pretty nice lexus

Who knows.

[KinMd]

74. Channel 4 in DC (NBC) is reporting th child in car is about 18moths old and WAS injured,

how seriously is unknown

[Rhiannon12866]

75. MSNBC says the woman tried to ram the White House gate with her car

And was shot and killed by Capitol Police. There was a small child in the car and there'll be a press conference on this at 6pm per MSNBC. They also say the police are not currently being paid...

[The Stranger]

77. She was unarmed, shot by multiple officers, and was with a child.

Am I the only one who has a problem with this scenario?

[Ahpook]

78. I am starting to feel the same way

This may be an overreaction from the Police?

[The Stranger]

80. Something is weird about this.

When are they going to release her identity?

[zinnisking]

89. They did a while ago

DU is way behind on this one.

[24601]

81. The answer is maybe, maybe not. She was driving a potentially lethal vehicle and had demonstrated

the willingness to use it as a battering ram.

Again it comes down to the mindset of the officers - if she continue to pose a threat, deadly force was likely their only viable option, by police or anybody else threatened.

On the other hand, if her vehicle was disabled at that point and she was trying to surrender, deadly force by police is no less a crime than by anyone else.

Factors that will be relevant will include how quickly things unfolded/how much time to deliberate and act did the police have. Given her behavior, how reasonable would it be to infer the vehicle might have been packed with explosives that she could trigger?

My guess is that will be determined to be a police-justified shooting. To make that determination in either direction before the investigation would not be what I'd advise.

[Ahpook]

82. I saw a photo of her car in the aftermath

There was no damage but the broken driver side window. I assume that was from bullets

[The Stranger]

83. It sounds like she had left the car and was being pursued on foot.

She had still not brandished a weapon of any kind and was being pursued by multiple officers.

Those are some tough facts on which to try to make a claim she posed a threat to the shooters.

[polly7]

84. Probably if/when she left the vehicle, it was to protect her child.

This is all so sad. Yes, she was to blame for her actions as a driver endangering her child and anyone around her, but I can't believe she had any intention of setting out to hurt anyone. I just wish they'd been able to shoot out her tires or something earlier. Sad.

[The Stranger]

85. I'm not in any way condoning what she did/attempted.

I'm questioning the use of deadly force. Couple that with the truly strange situation here, and I really want to know what was going on here.

The "isolated incident" lingo being repeated deserves to be pushed back against, especially given all of the strange revelations we have had recently regarding government and various individuals.

[polly7]

86. Oh, I'm agreeing with you ....

and I don't believe you or anyone here has condoned her actions at all. If she did have mental health issues as is now being reported and possibly panic led to her trying to flee, it's tragic ... and I would hope mental health would be something for news items to focus on instead of trying to turn it into just another wannabe killer statistic.

[MikeW]

87. not really

She hit 6 other vehicles in a high speed chase + a law enforc. officer with her car.

She attempted to ram a barrier into a secure area where vehicles are not allowed.

Tragic. But thats the way it went down and it will be justified.

[The Stranger]

90. It was earlier reported that she had left the vehicle on foot.

And if that is the case, having rammed vehicles minutes before would not constitute sufficient imminent threat to the shooters for them to shoot her later on while on foot. There was no weapon of any kind in her possession, much less one that would justify the use of deadly force.

You think it's justified. That's fine. You would get one vote.

I bet I could get a true bill on it.

[MikeW]

91. nonsense

She wasn't on foot she was shot behind the wheel of the vehicle.

[24601]

88. ABC (6:30 PM Network News) reported she died never leaving the drivers seat. Police were searching

the residence of a 34-year old woman from Stamford, Connecticut.