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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:01 AM Oct 2013

CIA beefs up training of moderate Syrian rebels

Source: Washington Post

CIA beefs up training of moderate Syrian rebels
GREG Miller
| The Washington Post
First Published 3 hours ago • Updated 3 hours ago

Washington • The CIA is expanding a clandestine effort to train opposition fighters in Syria amid concern that moderate, U.S.-backed militias are rapidly losing ground in the country’s civil war, U.S. officials said.

But the CIA program is so minuscule that it is expected to produce only a few hundred trained fighters each month even after it is enlarged, a level that officials said will do little to bolster rebel forces, who are being eclipsed by radical Islamists in the fight against the government of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

The CIA’s mission, officials said, has been defined by the White House’s desire to seek a political settlement, a scenario that relies on an eventual stalemate among the warring factions rather than a clear victor. As a result, officials said, limits on the agency’s authorities enable it to provide enough support to help ensure that politically moderate, U.S.-supported militias don’t lose but not enough for them to win.

The officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters, said the agency has sent additional paramilitary teams to secret bases in Jordan in recent weeks in a push to double the number of rebel fighters getting CIA instruction and weapons before being sent back to Syria.


Read more: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/56952610-68/cia-officials-syria-fighters.html.csp

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CIA beefs up training of moderate Syrian rebels (Original Post) Judi Lynn Oct 2013 OP
"moderate" Syrian rebels, eh? avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #1
I wonder how one gets to be a "moderate rebel"? gordianot Oct 2013 #2
No eating the enemy /nt Ash_F Oct 2013 #5
Here we go again. Indi Guy Oct 2013 #3
How can they do that when the government is shut down? Ash_F Oct 2013 #4
Similar was done by the US in Georgia dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #6
Let's see now, USA helped the Taliban against Russia ConcernedCanuk Oct 2013 #7
The Taliban did not exist at the time ButterflyBlood Oct 2013 #15
The Taliban movement traces its origin to the Pakistani-trained mujahideen in northern Pakistan ConcernedCanuk Oct 2013 #16
Memo to CIA: Moderate finance and logistics expert. Please step up his arms and training leveymg Oct 2013 #8
In Blood We Trust reddread Oct 2013 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #10
kid tested reddread Oct 2013 #11
we're not involved! the Peacemonger stopped another war! :crazy: MisterP Oct 2013 #12
today is the 20th anniversary of "Black Hawk Down" Enrique Oct 2013 #13
Not a problem in their eyes ... Nihil Oct 2013 #14

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
3. Here we go again.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:18 AM
Oct 2013

Haven't we seen this scenario played out way too many times?

No wonder all these nations want nukes -- the ones that do have them don't have the CIA messing with them.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
6. Similar was done by the US in Georgia
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:53 AM
Oct 2013

prior to the 2008 South Ossetia war. Israel did the same there too. Fat lot of good it did.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
7. Let's see now, USA helped the Taliban against Russia
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 07:36 AM
Oct 2013

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That worked out well, no? - NO. - . Beware help from the USA y'all;

It will literally come back and bite you in the ass.

Ask Saddam - oh wait - USA got him hung after they "helped" him against Iran,

and left his country in shambles after 2 wars and a messy invasion.

Should make one ponder . . .



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ButterflyBlood

(12,644 posts)
15. The Taliban did not exist at the time
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 11:26 AM
Oct 2013

For that matter neither did Russia as a country. But it was clearly the dominant part of the Soviet Union. The Taliban did not exist in any capacity until 1992.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
16. The Taliban movement traces its origin to the Pakistani-trained mujahideen in northern Pakistan
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 04:03 AM
Oct 2013

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The Taliban movement traces its origin to the Pakistani-trained mujahideen in northern Pakistan, during the Soviet war in Afghanistan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban
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The Taliban was one of the Mujahideen factions that formed during the Soviet occupation and the internal fighting in Afghanistan.

http://www-pub.naz.edu/~aamghar6/History%20of%20the%20Taliban.htm
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And yes, I should have referred to the conflict as being with the Soviet Union,

later to be broken up with the most dominant remainder being today`s Russia.

Also, it would have been more precise to say that the USA supplied the rebels/insurgents, whatever, and it was the mujahideen at the time, sort of morphed into the taliban.

The fact is, USA is fighting against weapons it supplied to the rebels/insurgents decades ago.

Now USA is considering arming the rebels in Syria,

makes me wonder . . . .

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leveymg

(36,418 posts)
8. Memo to CIA: Moderate finance and logistics expert. Please step up his arms and training
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 08:15 AM
Oct 2013
Khalid Sheikh Mohamed (KSM, "Kiss him&quot Long term ties to the US. Went to college in California. Fluent in English and usual languages. Knowledgeable project manager. Enjoys travel, adventure. Hobbies: scuba diving, air travel.

Assessment: Proven leadership value. Highly recommended by Saudi Intelligence. Westernized. Moderate, non-Islamic lifestyle. Strong anti-Russian views.

Recommend: Release, arm, equip, and train him so he can organize other like-minded moderates for proxy war in Syria.

- CIA Field Recruitment, Guatanamo Bay.
 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
9. In Blood We Trust
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 08:23 AM
Oct 2013

the hypocrisy. the lies. the sheep. the wolves.
seems like those anti-gun folks get real quiet when it matters.

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Enrique

(27,461 posts)
13. today is the 20th anniversary of "Black Hawk Down"
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:23 PM
Oct 2013

in which knowhow learned from the CIA years earlier in Afghanistan was used to shoot down American helicopters.

If and when this training (and arming) comes back against us, it will be years later and Syria will have been forgotten.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
14. Not a problem in their eyes ...
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 09:17 AM
Oct 2013

... it will be in a different election cycle so it doesn't matter (and in the meantime,
the arms suppliers will have been meeting their profit goals thus paying out their
bonuses ...).

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