Crystal Sugar pays off $46.6 million government loan with sugar
Source: Minneapolis Star Tribune
The move likely will cost taxpayers tens of millions of dollars as the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) tries to unload the sugar in a market where supply far exceeds demand. Because of the government shutdown, it was not clear how many other companies across the country paid back loans in sugar instead of dollars.
American Crystals decision came a day after the government announced that it had lost $53.3 million buying sugar from companies across the country and selling it to biofuel producers. The $53.3 million loss was considered necessary to limit the amount of sugar borrowers would use to pay back loans.
All the moves have focused a harsh glare on the countrys complex and controversial sugar support program, which protects producers and refiners by limiting imports and and letting companies repay federal loans with sugar when prices dip below certain levels.
The programs supporters have pushed it as operating at no cost to taxpayers. But this fiscal year taxpayers appear to be on the hook for more than $100 million due to a combination of government buy-backs and forfeitures.
Read more: http://www.startribune.com/business/226011811.html
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)welfare program.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)Maybe it's time to change that? It might have made some sense in the Depression era, but not in the NAFTA era.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)"What sense does that make? ls sugar rare cargo? ls there a black market for it? Did you ever hear of a fence for hot sugar?"
Apparently, yes,....the US Government.
I'd love to hear there was a campaign contribution in this deal.
SharonAnn
(13,775 posts)Otherwise, the price of sugar would fall and the sugar oligarchs couldn't make millions off gov't subsidies (and drain/pollute the FL aquifer.
SharonAnn
(13,775 posts)Otherwise, sugar would be cheaper than high-fructose corn syrup.
It's an interesting oddity in "money makes strange bedfellows".
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)telclaven
(235 posts)I saw what you did there.
pscot
(21,024 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)paying Republican Congress People with sugar rather than money?
Myrina
(12,296 posts)... can you imagine someone like Cruz or Bachmann on an induced sugar buzz while they're spewing their nonsensa-babble?
I was thinking sugar coma !
freshwest
(53,661 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)I'd much prefer to pay them in bales of tobacco.
reddread
(6,896 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)That's like paying my taxes with sand.
NickB79
(19,243 posts)"Yeah, my mortgage loan payment is due, and I'd like to pay it with vegetables from my garden. Say, can I get some change for this rutabaga?"
marble falls
(57,093 posts)when life gives you tomatoes - make marinara I always say.
marble falls
(57,093 posts)burnsei sensei
(1,820 posts)the great untold story of the last century and this.
Refined sugar is poison in large amounts, for people and the body politic.
marble falls
(57,093 posts)Omaha Steve
(99,639 posts)Tell them we want CASH!!!
http://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/15553/for_union_members_crystal_sugar_lockout_outcome_anything_but_sweet/
Tuesday Sep 3, 2013 6:15 pm
By Mike Elk
For 22 months, workers were locked out of employment at American Crystal Sugar plants like this one in East Grand Forks, Minn. (GFPeck / Flickr / Creative Commons)
When workers in a labor struggle are forced to agree to major concessions, labor leaders and allies often find ways to recast the defeat as a long-term victory. Often, they say that losing a tough fight opened up workers eyes to the lengths they must go to in order to win the next one.
In 2011, for instance, labor circles widely celebrated the massive Wisconsin protests of Governor Scott Walkers anti-union bill, which stripped public employees of collective bargaining rights and forced unions to give massive concessions in terms of wages and benefits. Still, many felt that Wisconsin was a turning point because it inspired unions to fight back in ways previously thought unimaginablethe crowds of protesters, numbering nearly 100,000, continuously occupied the Capitol for three weeks. Even after labor lost its bid to recall Walker, AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka declared, We wanted a different outcome, but Wisconsin forced the governor to answer for his efforts to divide the state and punish hardworking people. Their resolve has inspired a nation to follow their lead and stand up for the values of hard work, unity and decency that we believe in.
No matter what was given up at the bargaining tableeven if the bargaining table was thrown out the windowrarely will a labor leader come out and say that a loss was a bad one, or that mistakes were made. Labor leaders, after all, are subject to the same fear of mistakes jeopardizing their next campaign as other elected officials. And for the workers, theres basic human psychology at hand: People like to see that their struggles weren't for nothing.
But while spinning defeat into quasi-victory may make activists feel better, do massive losses really inspire future efforts? After one such setback in the Red River Valley, which spans the border between North Dakota and Minnesota, union activists are wrestling with this question.
When the cross-country Solidarity of Summer labor tour stopped last Saturday in Moorhead, Minn., the talk among local labor activists was of the 22-month lockout of sugar workers, which ended in April with a bitter loss. After contract negotiations went sour in 2011, Crystal Sugar locked out 1,300 workersmembers of the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers, and Grain Millers (BCTGM) unionat five plants in Minnesota, Iowa and North Dakota. For nearly two years, the workers held out, turning down the contract, which they felt was concessionary, in four separate votes.
FULL story at link.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)n/t
Volaris
(10,271 posts)Isn't that why President WASHINGTON had to go to Pennsylvania and stomp the snot out of the Whiskey Rebellion?
24601
(3,962 posts)had converted their excess grain & corn to whiskey and were using that to barter. There's no record that suggests anyone was trying to use the whiskey itself to pay debt to the government.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)It is a power prohibited to the states by Article 1, Section 10 of the Constitution: no state shall make anything but gold or silver coin a tender in payment of debts. But the feds have no similar prohibition.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)I would hate to see mountains of government sugar being given away to the poor like the infamous government cheese. So would Michelle Obama.
Meanwhile, a staggering 40 percent of our corn crop goes for ethanol, not to mention a sizable chunk for high-fructose corn syrup. That drives up the price of corn, helping U.S. farmers but hurting poor people in places like Mexico.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)XemaSab
(60,212 posts)I'm looking at you, tobacco.
Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)This system has been corrupt for ages. Shameful.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)The most obsurd aspect of the farm bill is paying farmers not to produce (which means they are not farmers).
Cha
(297,240 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)"No cost to taxpayers" my ass
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)K & R