Ted Cruz’s dad rips RINOs, Obamacare

[angka]

Source: POLITICO

Ted Cruz’s father, Rafael, ripped into the 25 “Republican in name only” senators who broke with his son’s budget brinksmanship, endorsing primary challenges against them, during a speech Friday night in Colorado.

The Republican senator’s dad, who fled Cuba as a teenager and now lives in a Dallas suburb, was caught on tape claiming that the Affordable Care Act “rationed” care for the elderly and includes “suicide counseling.”

“As a matter of fact, one of the things in Obamacare is that for the elderly, every five years you must have end-of-life counseling,” he told a crowd at a Lincoln-Day dinner just north of Denver. “Translation: suicide counseling.”

ColaradoPols.com, a liberal blog, posted a two-minute audio clip forwarded by a source in the room and then agreed to share a longer excerpt with POLITICO Monday night.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/ted-cruz-dad-republicans-obamacare-97628.html

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[durablend]

1. Rotten apple doesn't fall far from the tree n/t

[gopiscrap]

28. No kidding

[Bigmack]

35. Turds don't fall far from the asshole... nt

[Ed Suspicious]

2. My dad says stupid shit too.

[abelenkpe]

3. Crazy! Nt

[AZ Mike]

4. Be aware that this guy may be a HUGE asset in 2016....

....for the Democrats.

Please proceed.

[City Lights]

5. I'm wondering why he's given airtime?

When will we hear from the parents of all other members of Congress?

to this turd.

[Fearless]

13. To be fair most of the members of Congress' bones are already dust

Never mind their parents.

[City Lights]

17. LOL. nt

[msanthrope]

6. It's like your drunk uncle at Thanksgiving. nt

[heaven05]

7. like son like father

or is it the other way around? But both are idiots of the highest magnitude.

[TheCowsCameHome]

8. Hid dad's dad bred. His dad bred. Ted bred.

Is there no cure for this disease?

[onehandle]

9. Just another rich jackass for the Right. nt

[Historic NY]

10. Another dual citizen,

with a Communist Cuban past. Has he renounced his Canadian citizenship?

[hatrack]

11. Who cares? Seriously, who gives a fuck?

A selfish asshole's selfish asshole Da-da got up and denounced a bunch of politicians because they didn't agree with the apple of his butt.

BFD.

[bucolic_frolic]

12. Dementia Runs In The Family

and knows no age limits.

[Fearless]

14. He and Ted Nugent should get together

Grab Clint Eastwood and sit around a table and talk to an empty chair, because no one else is listening.

Jack ass.

[AgingAmerican]

15. The turd

Doesn't fall far from the bunghole

OK so that was harsh, but you get the point.

[LeftofObama]

16. Who gives 2 f*cks and half a rat's ass what he has to say?

Why is he even getting air time? Was he ever elected to anything?

[grandpamike1]

18. Like

Ron & Rand, same MO, both crazy.

[muriel_volestrangler]

19. The Theology of Government Shutdown: Christian Dominionism

On the eve of our government shutdown, I wanted to do some research into the theological roots of Senator Ted Cruz, the standard-bearer of the Tea Party Republicans behind the shutdown. I'm interested in understanding what account of Christianity creates the "no compromise" crusade that the Tea Party has become known for. It turns out that Ted's father, Rafael Cruz, is a pastor with Texas charismatic ministry Purifying Fire International who has been campaigning against Obamacare the last several months. He has a distinct theological vision for what America is supposed to look like: Christian dominionism.
...

When you hear this attack on religion, it's not really an attack on religion. The fundamental basis is this. Socialism requires that government becomes your God. That's why they have to destroy your concept of God. They have to destroy all your loyalties except loyalty to the government. That's what's behind homosexual marriage. It's really more about the destruction of the traditional family than about homosexuality, because you need also to destroy loyalty to the family.

This paragraph is a textbook example of postmodern "truthiness," in which any narrative of reality "works" as long as it's structurally logical. Cruz start with asserting the socialist conspiracy as a fundamental given and then show how it works as an explanation for everything else that's going on. It's so fascinating when the same people who declare themselves to be defenders of "absolute truth" are absolutely relativistic about truth in practice.

A more disturbing element of Cruz's speeches were his repeated calls for a "black robe regiment," a concept promoted by Christian revisionist historian David Barton who claims that clergy were the main backbone of the American Revolutionary War. Here's what Cruz had to say to the August 29th gathering of Heritage Action, the main lobbyist group behind shutting down the federal government:

It was pastors who were the backbone of the Revolution. Did you know where Paul Revere was going when he was saying the British are coming? He was going to the home of a pastor by the name of Jonas Clark... [who] was one of many that were called the black robe regiment. These were pastors that wore long black robes. Many of them had the continental army uniform under the black robe. They would preach in church on Sunday and then go out and fight with half their congregation for our independence. I want to encourage our pastors today not to hide behind their pulpits but take the spirit of the black robe regiment.

The theological ethos of Rafael Cruz's vision is in Christian dominionism; he talks about preaching a "message of dominion" that all Christians have received an "anointing as kings." I watched a sermon he preached on August 26, 2012 at the New Beginnings megachurch in Irving, Texas, led by Christian Zionist charismatic pastor Larry Huch. Huch incidentally had a very interesting prophecy to share when he introduced Cruz to preach:

We've been doing this series here that God laid on my heart: Getting to the top and staying there. A message for us as individuals, the kingdom of God, but also for America. It's not enough to get there. We need to stay there. It's not a coincidence that in a few weeks, we go into what's called in the Bible Rosh Hashanad [sic]... It will be the beginning of the spiritual year 2012. The number 12 means divine government. That God will begin to rule and reign. Not Wall Street, not Washington, God's people and His kingdom will begin to rule and reign. I know that's why God got Rafael's son elected, Ted Cruz the next senator.

But here's the exciting thing... The rabbinical teaching is... that in a few weeks begins that year 2012 and that this will begin what we call the end-time transfer of wealth. And that when these Gentiles begin to receive this blessing, they will never go back financially through the valley again. They will grow and grow and grow. It's said this way: that God is looking at the church and everyone in it and deciding in the next three and a half years who will be his bankers. And the ones that say here I am Lord, you can trust me, we will become so blessed that we will usher in the coming of the messiah.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/morgan-guyton/the-theology-of-governmen_b_4020537.html

Dominionists aren't just nutcases. They're dangerous nutcases.

[happyslug]

30. A gem among chaff

One of the problems with something like DU, is you get a lot of people making pointless arguments, but then you get a Gem. What I mean by a Gem is something that does put some light on something. The rest of the comments in this thread can be dismissed as self centered opinions, then you get this analysis that goes a huge way to understanding what is going on in the word. The comment that Senator's Cruz's father is a Dominionists AND that Dominionists are using a bad translation of the bible for their own agenda (i.e. Translating a Term that best Translated as "Kingdom" to be "Kings&quot and then using that bad translation to further a non-Christian concept of NOT working with others is breathtaking.

In Rafael's translation of the Bible, it says "kings and priests" instead of "a kingdom and priests." In the Greek, the word is basileian (accusative singular) and no manuscript variants are indicated, but never mind that.

Everyone else translates the world as "Kingdom" not "King"
http://classic.net.bible.org/search.php?search=greek_strict_index:basileian

Through One site (I suspect it is a dominonist Site) says the following:

http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/nas/basileia.html

Definition"
royal power, kingship, dominion, rule not to be confused with an actual kingdom but rather the right or authority to rule over a kingdom of the royal power of Jesus as the triumphant Messiah of the royal power and dignity conferred on Christians in the Messiah's kingdom a kingdom, the territory subject to the rule of a king used in the N.T. to refer to the reign of the Messiah

To make sense of this definition one must understand that at times this word was used to applied to collection of men who made decisions, but again it was a GROUP decision to work with OTHERS, not to stand alone for why else would men be willing to accept being called by a word with a Female Ending when a very similar word with a male ending clearly meant KING. i.e. the group were acting as a "Kingdom" a collection not as an individual.

Basileus is the Greek work for King note the ending eus unlike the ending for the word used in the bible, Basileian which ends in eian (Please note I know Greek is written in a different alphabet then modern English and these are the English/Latin Alphabet).

Side note: In pre-Classical Greece the word appears to be Basileis, which is the word used by Homer but outside of Homer ending that word with an is seems to have fallen out of favor for ending that word with us.

basilissa was the female version i.e. Queen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basileus

Thus this is a NOT accidental mistranslation or a disagreement as to how to translate a word, but a deliberate decision to make "Kingdom" into "King". To make a word meaning a Collection of People into a word meaning one person only.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basileus

[tomm2thumbs]

20. Oh Lucccyyyyyyy - Babble-Looooooo-nacy

He's doing the Democrats a huge favor -- I would bet that this audio was thanks to a RINO, as he calls it, who knows when this chatter is revealed, his son's chance of moving forward will be speed-bumped.

Translation: Friendly-fire

[olddad56]

21. I want a DNA test. I doubt that Ted was fathered by homo sapian.

[nobodyspecial]

22. End of life counseling

means a rational, logical discussion with doctors regarding treatment options, outcomes, side effects and hospice care. Why do they hate this? Because it puts patients in charge -- FREEDOM -- and the hospitals and doctors can't run amok running up huge bills on unnecessary treatment and care. It is still the patient's choice. However, many are reassured when they learn they will be well cared for and not be in pain if they opt for hospice care instead of expensive, invasive treatment.

[Swede Atlanta]

29. This is another blatant lie about the ACA.....

First of all, if you had an end-of-life discussion mandated every 5 years I know very few patients who would
(a) Sit and listen if they are 25 and healthy
(b) Last 5 years if in fact they were in an end-of-life stage

If I recall correctly the ACA ensures that doctors are compensated for having this discussion with patients. In this country we are so afraid of death and the dead. Look at the extraordinary heroics we go to, at extreme expense, to keep someone alive for another few days or weeks. Those days or weeks are spent either in great pain or in a comatose state.

I for one fully support having a factual, non-emotional discussion about my condition, my prognosis, treatment options including withdrawing further treatment and quality of life. I want to be in a position to make that decision but I need information. If my doctor is not compensated for having that discussion then I am denied what most people would agree should be an option for every patient facing end-of-life decisions.

Ted Cruz' father is a crotchety old hateful so-called Christian and his son is a charlatan and a snake oil salesman.

[angka]

32. Actually...

I'm pretty sure the mandatory end of life counseling was pulled from the bill to stop paranoid Republicans from using it in chain emails. Which of course they do anyway, as Rafael can attest.

[roamer65]

23. Deport him to Cuba.

[struggle4progress]

24. "My son is a well-known lunatic, so you should listen to me, too!"

[JI7]

25. you think Cruz dad and Ron Paul will get into it with each other over their son's run for Pres

?

[yuiyoshida]

27. would you pay for tickets to see

That one round boxing fight? Or...even on Pay Per view. Not sure who I would root for, maybe that they both knock each other out.

[Faux pas]

26. He sounds like he has a mouth full of mush...

or maybe it's just full of bullshit.

[DinahMoeHum]

31. Libertad libertad libertad libertad libertad. . .Ra-fa-ellllll !!!!

"From a friend you f**ked!!" - Tony Montana, Scarface(1983)

[blkmusclmachine]

33. Cruz' Crazy Talk.

[Arkana]

34. Oh dear, now Ted Cruz's dad is getting in on the action?