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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 10:58 PM Sep 2013

House will request a conference committee to resolve budget issues with Senate

Source: Yahoo News

House Republican leaders will request a conference committee from Senate Democrats to resolve differences on a bill to fund the government, a House GOP leadership aide told Yahoo News.

Appointing a conference committee is not likely to avert a government shutdown before the Monday night deadline when government funding levels expire, but it could put the battling parties in a position to reach an agreement to fund the government faster than the game of legislative ping pong House Republicans played with Senate Democrats on the final day before the shutdown deadline.

The announcement came after the Senate rejected the third proposal from the House to keep the government open while also attacking Obamacare — this time by delaying the individual mandate to buy health insurance and by prohibiting congressional staff members from federal insurance subsidies under the controversial health care program.

Even late into the night Senate leaders, however, continue to reiterate that they will accept nothing short of a "clean" extension of government funding.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/government-shutdown-imminent-barring-an-unlikely-last-minute-deal-165129660.html



Republicans are looking for a way to blame Senate Democrats for the impending shutdown, and this is how they plan to go about doing so.
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House will request a conference committee to resolve budget issues with Senate (Original Post) Zorro Sep 2013 OP
That would have been helpful SIX MONTHS AGO! SaveAmerica Sep 2013 #1
Exactly, Republicans Refused To Do This Months Ago TomCADem Sep 2013 #7
The balk is beginning. nt onehandle Sep 2013 #2
Problem is they want to do it AFTER the shutdown. That is garbage. No conference until they pass a lostincalifornia Sep 2013 #3
If Reid agrees to a conference committee Zorro Sep 2013 #5
Weren't they supposed to do this many months ago? Coyotl Sep 2013 #4
Why? Botany Sep 2013 #6
Exactly. Fund Gov at levels the GOP ALREADY approved, raise debt ceiling... TomCADem Sep 2013 #9
When I was a little boy our next door neighbor's brother in very middle class Botany Sep 2013 #15
They're just fucking with us at this point. IrishMidget Sep 2013 #8
Harry Reid just now on Senate floor: "We will not go to conference with a gun to our head." pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #10
Sessions is such a fucker!! KewlKat Sep 2013 #11
Republicans don't know how to negotiate in good faith nor for the good of the country Iliyah Sep 2013 #12
Just wait til the debt ceiling fight IrishMidget Sep 2013 #14
Rep Slaughter spoke KewlKat Sep 2013 #13
Hot potato blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #16
What they're requesting is less of a conference than a hostage situation with a ransom note DFW Oct 2013 #17
Reid needs to throw it back on THEM, not just decline the stupid set-up offer. King_Klonopin Oct 2013 #18
congress wants to hide behind the Senate as if this were not their idea. Hopefully the Senate will jwirr Oct 2013 #19

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
7. Exactly, Republicans Refused To Do This Months Ago
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:34 PM
Sep 2013

...and now after trying to kill the ACA over 40 times and with the Federal Government ready to shut down, they now say they are going to show up? Of course, now Republicans will try to use conference committee to try to get Democrats to share blame for the shut down even though they have been blocking efforts at negotiation for months.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sen-durbin-mocks-rand-paul-gop-look-what-we-have-to-work-with/

On Face the Nation Sunday morning, Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) immediately rebutted Senator Rand Paul’s (R-KY) suggestion to set up a conference committee to negotiate differences between the House and Senate continuing resolutions, reminding host Bob Schieffer that Senate Republicans had been blocking a conference committee on the budget for six months.

“Conference committees are the normal course of action,” Durbin said. “We have been trying for more than six months to get the Senate Republicans to agree to a conference committee on the budget. They refuse a conference committee, when it comes to our budget. When it comes to healthcare reform, there should be an orderly process.”

“But look what we have to work with on the other side,” Durbin said. “Almost forty-five times now the House Republicans have voted to abolish ObamaCare, not to change it, not to come up with any specific change. The closest they have come is with this medical device tax. But if there’s to be a constructive conversation about the future of healthcare reform, it’s going forward; I fully support that. But let’s sit down in a bipartisan and calm way—not with the prospect of shutting down the government or shutting down the economy.”

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
3. Problem is they want to do it AFTER the shutdown. That is garbage. No conference until they pass a
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:13 PM
Sep 2013

clean budget

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
5. If Reid agrees to a conference committee
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:16 PM
Sep 2013

Republican conference members will stall the process by continuing to insist on defunding the ACA and continue their argument that it's the Dems that are unwilling to compromise.

If Reid does not agree to a conference committee, then the Republicans will blame the Democrats for not being willing to hammer out a "compromise" agreement.

It's still all political theater.

Botany

(70,505 posts)
6. Why?
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:33 PM
Sep 2013

You don't get to negotiate if you get to fund something that is a law. You
can run against said law and if you win the election and you have enough
people on your side who also won elected office then you might be able
to overturn the law but you can not negotiate the funding of something
that is already the land and has been upheld as Constitutional by the
SCOTUS.

ATTN Sen. Harry tell the House Repugs no committees, no delays
in the ACA, and that you want a clean bill for the seante to vote on.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
9. Exactly. Fund Gov at levels the GOP ALREADY approved, raise debt ceiling...
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:36 PM
Sep 2013

...then perhaps go to conference committee, but only agreeing to go to conference committee allows Republicans to continue to try extort the rest of the Nation.

Botany

(70,505 posts)
15. When I was a little boy our next door neighbor's brother in very middle class
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:55 PM
Sep 2013

... neighborhood in N.W. PA was governor and he was a great guy
by the name of Ray Safer. Now it was a different time but he played
w/ us kids and was left alone by the press because he was w/ friends
and family .... I looked up his record a few years ago and he was
pro environment, education, infrastructure, civil rights, and unions
and he was a republican too ..... this current crop of tea bagger repugs
are @ their core very un-American and Ray would have no home in the
current repug party.

They simple can't handle the fact they lost the election and are trying
to hold America hostage so they can keep a failed but extremely profitable
health care system going.

fuck em ..... let them shut down the government and feel the blow back ...
these repug fuckers are getting their talking points from a college flunk
out with a drug habit .... Rush Limbaugh.

sorry to

IrishMidget

(40 posts)
8. They're just fucking with us at this point.
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:34 PM
Sep 2013

Whatever let's them stall for time and still makes it look like they're doing something.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
12. Republicans don't know how to negotiate in good faith nor for the good of the country
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:48 PM
Sep 2013

and her people. They reneged with the sequester and they will demand and try again and again to defund/delay/kill Obamacare.

Republicans are not trustworthy and are back stabbers. They want to ruin the country and allow its people to suffer all for that almighty dollar. Satan is very please with them.

IrishMidget

(40 posts)
14. Just wait til the debt ceiling fight
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:52 PM
Sep 2013

when Republicans let the US default on its debt and take the world economy down with it.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
13. Rep Slaughter spoke
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:51 PM
Sep 2013

said what the Gropers are planning for the debt ceiling vote is FAR worse than what they're doing now........we are so fucked!!!!

I need to turn C-Span off......every word the gropers have spoken are LIES.

I'm out of work until...............these MFs can't agree on anything. I guess I move in with one of them. Hell, everyone they've just put out of work, pick out a groper and move in with them.....

Sorry I'm so pissed, but I've reached the end of my rope as a "civil" servant......I don't think I can be "civil" any longer.......

DFW

(54,384 posts)
17. What they're requesting is less of a conference than a hostage situation with a ransom note
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 02:21 AM
Oct 2013

"We starve your loved one (your country) until you do what we want or your country dies. Whichever comes first, and we don't care which. Dick Cheney has a lot of property out there in Dubai, and there's a plot with every one of our names on it."

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
18. Reid needs to throw it back on THEM, not just decline the stupid set-up offer.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 03:05 AM
Oct 2013

Caving into this manipulation would set a horrible precedent.
Holding the majority, the Constitution, and the country hostage
in order to subvert democracy as THEY SEE FIT is unacceptable.

DE-FUND the voting rights act, or else we'll shut down the gov't !
DE-FUND civil rights protection, or else we'll shut down the gov't !
DE-FUND the EPA, or else we'll shut down the gov't !
DE-FUND the SEC, or else we'll shut down the gov't !

You can add to that list of potential scenarios ad infinitum.
Reid needs to illustrate the fallacy and dishonesty behind this.

WHAT THEY PROPOSE IS NOT A "COMPROMISE";
IT'S A SET-UP to make it appear that the Dems are being oppositional.
IT'S DUPLICITOUS because it makes it appear that the issue is still open for discussion.
IT'S A TACTIC meant to stall and slow-walk the implementation of a LAW.
IT'S PURE BS -- political theatre, smoke-and-mirrors.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
19. congress wants to hide behind the Senate as if this were not their idea. Hopefully the Senate will
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:10 AM
Oct 2013

be holding their ground.

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