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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:47 PM Sep 2013

House Passes Another Budget Bill That Delays Health Law, 228-201

Source: New York Times

With hours to go before the federal government runs out of money, the House on Monday night passed its latest bill to link further government financing to a weakening of President Obama’s health care law.

With the 228-201 vote, the House effectively made its last offer before a government shutdown at midnight. The bill demands a one-year delay in the health care law’s requirement that individuals buy health insurance, and denies federal subsidies to members of Congress, Capitol Hill staff, executive branch appointees, White House staff, the president and the vice president, who would be forced to purchase their health insurance on the Affordable Care Act’s new insurance exchanges.

Senate Democratic leaders announced they would immediately take up the spending bill, strip out the health care language and send it back to the House free of policy prescriptions. And with that, time would likely be out, and large portions of the government would be shut down.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/news/fiscal-crisis/2013/09/30/house-passes-another-spending-bill-linked-to-health-law-delay

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House Passes Another Budget Bill That Delays Health Law, 228-201 (Original Post) onehandle Sep 2013 OP
Pitiful IrishMidget Sep 2013 #1
Deluded numbskulls. AAO Sep 2013 #24
So, 44? Thor_MN Sep 2013 #2
And the definition of madness C_U_L8R Sep 2013 #3
Meanwhile, Obama Appoints Another Romney Advisor to Social Security Commission: blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #4
Meanwhile, blkmusclmachine keeps spreading this false (and meaningless) headline Amonester Sep 2013 #14
Yeah, no kidding LTR Sep 2013 #29
oh hell. 840high Sep 2013 #23
OBAMA's going to cut Social Security AGAIN!!!!! JoePhilly Sep 2013 #25
you're wrong heaven05 Sep 2013 #28
Get their names, and hit their districts hard on the phones Mellow Drama Sep 2013 #5
I just made a repub phone girl cry!! Mellow Drama Sep 2013 #35
The senate will vote against it and throw it back at the house gopers Iliyah Sep 2013 #6
Looks like these maniacs arent going to back down. DCBob Sep 2013 #7
28 idiots in the way of sanity Warpy Sep 2013 #8
Reid and Obama shouldn't respond n2doc Sep 2013 #9
+1 Liberalynn Sep 2013 #12
I thought the moderate Republicans were revolting. iandhr Sep 2013 #10
Apparently most of them are....... Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2013 #11
This Liberalynn Sep 2013 #13
9 dems voted YES, 12 GOPs voted NO. Mass Sep 2013 #15
How the hell did 7 Dems vote for these shenanigans Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2013 #17
They voted after the bill got a majority. Probably a safety reflex from dems in red states. Mass Sep 2013 #19
Wake me up when they get to "Plan Z" Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2013 #27
I saw Eugene Robinson on MSNBC 2 weeks ago, and he thought that Left Coast2020 Sep 2013 #36
The GOPers are KewlKat Sep 2013 #16
Not a complete partisan vote: 9 democrats voted 'yes' and 12 republicans voted 'no' Tx4obama Sep 2013 #18
Republicans can go durablend Sep 2013 #20
9 Dems who are goners SansACause Sep 2013 #21
Because the real baggers will have red meat to run on in 2014. No sense making it more difficult Mellow Drama Sep 2013 #32
The want to destroy the economy because that might further their political agenda. and because Coyotl Sep 2013 #22
Elections do have consequences BobbyBoring Sep 2013 #26
The senate should send it right back so the House is stuck with it at Midnight davidpdx Sep 2013 #30
Desperation. nt chowder66 Sep 2013 #31
It is essentially an attempted coup. There would be no need kiranon Sep 2013 #33
The Senate should send this leaking bag of crap back to ... kairos12 Sep 2013 #34
The one year delay might not be such a bad option IF Rstrstx Oct 2013 #37
stand tall ThomThom Oct 2013 #38
hmmmmm ummmmm rtracey Oct 2013 #39

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
14. Meanwhile, blkmusclmachine keeps spreading this false (and meaningless) headline
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:05 PM
Sep 2013

all over threads not related to it...

 

Mellow Drama

(47 posts)
5. Get their names, and hit their districts hard on the phones
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:52 PM
Sep 2013

Ask the Democratic party for a phone list and just go down and give their constituents hell. If you can afford it, buy the voting lists and call the GOP and convert them to Democratic before 2014.

 

Mellow Drama

(47 posts)
35. I just made a repub phone girl cry!!
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 10:20 PM
Sep 2013

YES!! I got one of the phone girls for one of the republicans who voted to kill people by refusing them healthcare to cry, and say she wishes she didn't work for the guy. I told her to quit now, and she said she would. One less republican in California! Just keep up the heat, make them pay. PS No pity for anyone who works the dark side.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
6. The senate will vote against it and throw it back at the house gopers
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:53 PM
Sep 2013

meanwhile the government will shutdown while the ugly tea nuts celebrate. They are indeed very sick group of assholes.

Then they will either sit on it or vote for another delay for Obamacare. By that time majority of America will see that they are plain nuts and hopefully remember in 2014 even the gerrymandering districts as well. Cruz will give his pay to charity but a Dem had already suggest that last week.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
7. Looks like these maniacs arent going to back down.
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:54 PM
Sep 2013

The only good thing I see from this is the traffic with lighter on the beltway tomorrow.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
8. 28 idiots in the way of sanity
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:54 PM
Sep 2013

Maybe they'll come to their senses in a week after their offices are buried under mail from outraged citizens who have been furloughed and/or have been inconvenienced or worse by the lack of services.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
9. Reid and Obama shouldn't respond
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:59 PM
Sep 2013

Except to say "When you are done throwing tantrums and pass a clean bill, let us know. Otherwise we will be in our offices and talking to our constituents. "

Mass

(27,315 posts)
15. 9 dems voted YES, 12 GOPs voted NO.
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:06 PM
Sep 2013
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll504.xml

So, if 7 more GOpers had defected and 7 Dems had followed (most voted YES after the bill had a majority), we would be in a world of sanity.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
17. How the hell did 7 Dems vote for these shenanigans
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:08 PM
Sep 2013

What exactly are they trying to prove, exactly?
Grrrrrrrrrr............

Mass

(27,315 posts)
19. They voted after the bill got a majority. Probably a safety reflex from dems in red states.
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:11 PM
Sep 2013

More interesting is the fact that the moderate GOpers voted for the bill with a couple of exceptions. Most of the GOPers who defected were tea party.

So, I guess it goes once more in the Senate, gets back to the house. What will the GOP invent this time?

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
36. I saw Eugene Robinson on MSNBC 2 weeks ago, and he thought that
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 10:23 PM
Sep 2013

the shutdown would only last a couple of days.

I get feeling Wall Street will kick their asses if they do indeed cause a shutdown. Market is already getting an ulcer from this.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
16. The GOPers are
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:07 PM
Sep 2013

Greedy Obstructive Pricks

The party of selfish motives. Willing to throw their country and citizens under a bus, train, car, or anything that can cause severe injury. Willing to destroy an already weakened economy. Are we not supposed to be fighting terrorists? How are their actions not considered terrorism?

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
18. Not a complete partisan vote: 9 democrats voted 'yes' and 12 republicans voted 'no'
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:08 PM
Sep 2013

What the hell is the matter with those 9 democrats!

Roll call LIST here: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll504.xml


durablend

(7,460 posts)
20. Republicans can go
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:14 PM
Sep 2013

Do something in something hot where they'll never be heard from again.

(leaving it up to everyone else to figure it out)

 

Mellow Drama

(47 posts)
32. Because the real baggers will have red meat to run on in 2014. No sense making it more difficult
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 10:16 PM
Sep 2013

And don't forget, the less extreme pukes will capitulate because they don't want to be skinned alive in their own district. They are the ones feeling the heat.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
22. The want to destroy the economy because that might further their political agenda. and because
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:16 PM
Sep 2013

Obama isn't a white guy like them.

BobbyBoring

(1,965 posts)
26. Elections do have consequences
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:32 PM
Sep 2013

And we're living with them (and dying by them) now.

We do a lot of bickering here on DU but one thing we should devote ourselves to is getting EVERY ONE OF THESE TEA PARTY DOUCHE BAGS OUT!

2014, they're gone!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
30. The senate should send it right back so the House is stuck with it at Midnight
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:50 PM
Sep 2013

There is still 2 hours 10 mins

kiranon

(1,727 posts)
33. It is essentially an attempted coup. There would be no need
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 10:17 PM
Sep 2013

for the President or the Senate and most of the House if the Tea Party could pass their agenda by holding various funding bills hostage. Hold fast Mr. President and the Democrats and hopefully some Republicans in the Senate. Madness is loose and running wild in the House.

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
37. The one year delay might not be such a bad option IF
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:58 AM
Oct 2013

you could still get insurance on the exchanges at the same price starting Jan 1 if you wanted to. The silliness about the Congress etc just sounds like a rewarmed Vitter amendment. Again it's not something that would terribly piss me off as long as ordinary people who WANT or NEED affordable health insurance can start getting it on 1 Jan 2014. To me that's what matters the most, the rest is a dog and pony show, especially the amendments that deal with Congress (like they'd REALLY defund their own insurance. Rrrrrright).

But I think the Dems realize now the Repubs are going to get this issue hung around their neck and will shoulder the blame; more importantly, caving in just a little right now would also encourage more unacceptable behavior when the much more critical debt ceiling vote comes up in a few weeks. If any concessions would have to be made that would be the time to do it but only if it were absolutely necessary (again, I'm not so much against concessions as long as they don't interfere with ordinary people who want/need affordable insurance being able to get it come Jan 1).

But things sounds like they're going along fine, enrollment begins in a few hours, the Rs can't stop it and the Ds are really holding the stronger suit. I think the Rs will just cave in a couple of days and vow to "fight it out" again when the debt ceiling limit comes up

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