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Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:37 AM Sep 2013

Armed Russian guards 'storm' Arctic ship: Greenpeace

Source: AFP

MOSCOW — Armed Russian officers stormed Thursday a Greenpeace vessel that is in the Arctic to protest oil exploration by Russian gas giant Gazprom, the environmental group said.

"People armed with machine guns have descended on to the Greenpeace icebreaker Arctic Sunrise from a helicopter via ropes," Greenpeace said in a statement.

On the Twitter page of the Dutch-flagged Arctic Sunrise, activists said that the men, apparently the Russian coastguard are "onboard with guns. They are breaking into the comms rooms now."

Most of the crew of the Arctic Sunrise ship has been ordered at gunpoint to the upper deck, Greenpeace added on the Russian Twitter blog.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iC__4R3Au8WzxmuO7DX4_C94H52A?docId=CNG.f3b813c83565864ba6d2d2ae56dd28ec.691

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Armed Russian guards 'storm' Arctic ship: Greenpeace (Original Post) Bosonic Sep 2013 OP
See helicopter, see ropes, Hard to Port and gun the engines maybe? snooper2 Sep 2013 #1
It is terrifying !! the way Govs go after environmental and other social groups. Sunlei Sep 2013 #2
It all about the control corporations have over UglyGreed Sep 2013 #3
well guess the Russians just follow whatever Bush's cronies did here.. PatrynXX Sep 2013 #7
The world is locked into a techno-industrial system that needs more and more energy to survive GliderGuider Sep 2013 #4
sadly, yes. nt magical thyme Sep 2013 #5
Well said. n/t cui bono Sep 2013 #6
Fucking great post. The Stranger Sep 2013 #10
Thank you! GliderGuider Sep 2013 #13
Thanks Paul. Ghost Dog Sep 2013 #21
yep Gazprom is at the heart of Syria too joshcryer Sep 2013 #20
Artic Sunrise saidsimplesimon Sep 2013 #8
I'm sure Putin will find a way to blame the US for Greenpeace. MicaelS Sep 2013 #9
I look forward to Russia Times' honest reporting on the event. FSogol Sep 2013 #12
Way to go Comrade Snowden! Cryptoad Sep 2013 #11
How on earth is this his fault? GliderGuider Sep 2013 #14
Pretty sure its that quakerboy Sep 2013 #18
That's just his/her "Snowden" account, complete with template answers. Nihil Sep 2013 #23
You don't care about Greenpeace. /nt Ash_F Sep 2013 #15
Yea, especially since Snowden sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #16
Oh you mean because of Snowden's propaganda extolling Russia being the first to Cha Sep 2013 #17
GASP joins LGBT activists calling PBO a hero? Or is it more Animal Farm? freshwest Sep 2013 #19
knr roody Sep 2013 #22

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
3. It all about the control corporations have over
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:59 AM
Sep 2013

governments. Doing the right thing concerning the environment cost money and the corporations only care about the bottom line.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
4. The world is locked into a techno-industrial system that needs more and more energy to survive
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:18 PM
Sep 2013

It needs a constant amount of energy to maintain what was built in the past, plus an increment every year for growth. If the growth of energy use stagnates, things begin to fall apart, Any person or organization that gets in the way of growth - especially in energy supplies - can expect to be crushed.

To the system the environment is just a a bag of resources for human use, with a "net present value" tag attached to it. In the face of the system's underlying and overwhelming exploitation imperative, the wishes of some greens amount to a fart in a hurricane.

I wish it were otherwise, but it's not. It will take a global collision with a critical physical limit to change things.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
13. Thank you!
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:03 PM
Sep 2013

It's taken a while...

I've posted a lot of my thinking and explorations on this and related topics on my web site Approaching The Limits to Growth. There are even more on Facebook as notes, if anyone would like to look them up. I'm on FB as "Bodhi Paul Chefurka" - maybe you can see them through this link: http://www.facebook.com/Bodhisantra/notes

Thanks again!

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
8. Artic Sunrise
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:44 PM
Sep 2013

Greenpeace was placed on a list of "environmental terrorists" during the bad old days of Darth Vader and the Media Creation (cheney/bush). I'm so internationally shamed by the actions of my government.

Did our US intelligence services provide Russia with information?

Full Disclosure: I've been documented attending a media event with Greenpeace activists supporting alternatives to fossil fuels.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
14. How on earth is this his fault?
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:11 PM
Sep 2013

Or is it just that anytime someone says "Russia" you reflexively reply "Snowden!"

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
18. Pretty sure its that
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 05:01 PM
Sep 2013

Now anything that has to do with Russia will provoke the cry of the "My guy forever" Birds, for quite a while. Till they find something else completely irrelevant to anything to crow about.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
23. That's just his/her "Snowden" account, complete with template answers.
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 08:11 AM
Sep 2013

There are a couple of them around ready to hijack any thread into a "Snowden" rat-hole.



Cha

(297,275 posts)
17. Oh you mean because of Snowden's propaganda extolling Russia being the first to
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 04:30 PM
Sep 2013

stand up against human rights violations? He's just a tool.. no hypocrisy there.. we have to move along.

"These nations, including Russia, Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, and Ecuador have my gratitude and respect for being the first to stand against human rights violations."

http://wikileaks.org/Statement-by-Edward-Snowden-to.html

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
19. GASP joins LGBT activists calling PBO a hero? Or is it more Animal Farm?
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 05:12 PM
Sep 2013
BTW, intriguing photoshop. Or is it?



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