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GeorgeGist

(25,322 posts)
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 07:29 AM Sep 2013

Edward Snowden Nominated For EU’s Top Human Rights Prize

Source: TPM

The European Parliament announced Monday that Edward Snowden is one of seven nominees for the 2013 Sakharov Prize for Freedom of Thought.

Snowden was nominated by the Greens, a pro-environment group. The winner will be named next month and will be awarded a 50,000 euro — or $65,000 — prize, according to the AP. Along with Snowden, other nominees include Malala Yousafzai, the Pakistani teen who was shot last year by the Taliban on her way home from school.

Previous winners of the Sakharov Prize include Nelson Mandela.

Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/edward-snowden-nominated-for-eus-top-human-rights

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Edward Snowden Nominated For EU’s Top Human Rights Prize (Original Post) GeorgeGist Sep 2013 OP
I hope he sweeps the field, along with Manning and Assange Demeter Sep 2013 #1
K&R IMO, Chelsea Manning and Snowden should share the prize. idwiyo Sep 2013 #2
AGREED, TRUE HEROS, ACTING FOR THE GOOD OF THE NATION drynberg Sep 2013 #3
Not just one nation, but entire World. British GCHQ is as dirty as NSA. idwiyo Sep 2013 #4
I guess the Greens/EFA and GUE/NGL have dumped Manning struggle4progress Sep 2013 #48
Proud to be the 5th rec & off to the Greatest Page with you! Divernan Sep 2013 #5
Full list of the nominees Tanuki Sep 2013 #6
It is a great honor just to be nominated to this illustrious group. Divernan Sep 2013 #9
Thanks for sharing that. I'd be surprised if Mulala doesn't win it. Turborama Sep 2013 #10
And when Anonymous helped provide the courts and the rest of the world the evidence needed JustanAngel Sep 2013 #44
This sure points out the difference between living in iemitsu Sep 2013 #7
And yet shooting and killing over a dozen people on military installations or in schools or is not. RC Sep 2013 #16
K&R nt TBF Sep 2013 #8
congrats rtracey Sep 2013 #11
Like Obama receiving the Nobel Peace Prize? RC Sep 2013 #17
Fail, fail & more fail. baldguy Sep 2013 #19
Probably, but RC Sep 2013 #20
Only by anti-Obama, anti-Democrat trolls. baldguy Sep 2013 #22
Define "Democrat" RC Sep 2013 #23
. baldguy Sep 2013 #25
The second guy upheld his oath to defend the Constitution better than the first guy has to so far. RC Sep 2013 #31
True. dipsydoodle Sep 2013 #32
I'm with you RC. cui bono Sep 2013 #46
+1000 - Ain't that the truth Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #59
agreed rtracey Sep 2013 #36
That's a bunch of malarkey. cui bono Sep 2013 #47
To say that Pres Obama has continued the Bush policies IMO is giving both presidents rhett o rick Sep 2013 #50
Well maybe if Obama would stop appointing Republicans to various agencies... RC Sep 2013 #51
Possibly he doesnt get much of a choice. Let me give a possible example. rhett o rick Sep 2013 #53
Is there a difference bahrbearian Sep 2013 #21
I don't believe Bush won a Nobel Peace Prize. deurbano Sep 2013 #26
Bush nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize = Snowden being nominated for the Sakarov Prize. baldguy Sep 2013 #29
That was never confirmed. deurbano Sep 2013 #34
It seems very likely from that link that he was nominated - but had no chance karynnj Sep 2013 #35
Harald T. Nesvik baldguy Sep 2013 #57
Why the rudeness? (baldguy: "You do know how to use Google, don't you?") deurbano Sep 2013 #61
Not really - this is a public list of just 7, with multiple MEPs nominating each one muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #41
Bush didn't win the Nobel Peace Prize. lark Sep 2013 #40
Once we break the stranglehold . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #12
K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2013 #13
LMAO! Cryptoad Sep 2013 #14
Great News! LiberalLovinLug Sep 2013 #15
K&R!!!! Katashi_itto Sep 2013 #18
So, when might we expect Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #24
I think, maybe, just maybe - the World is getting pissed off at the USA. ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #27
I'd vote for Malala Yousafzai. She already has done more for 'human rights' and a lot more in future Sunlei Sep 2013 #28
K&R pscot Sep 2013 #30
So when does DU get one? L0oniX Sep 2013 #33
Kick for whistleblowers! grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #37
DURec! bvar22 Sep 2013 #38
Glad to see he is among those nominated. n/t MuseRider Sep 2013 #39
When i first saw the headline on this, I wanted Bigmack Sep 2013 #42
Pussy Riot is not on the ballot? JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2013 #43
A Russian Spy nominated for Human Rights Prize... Whisp Sep 2013 #45
I will be amazed if this becomes the Sakharov Prize for International Espionage struggle4progress Sep 2013 #49
That tells a story about us . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #52
thank you Ed Snowden. grasswire Sep 2013 #54
thief is really paying off wisenupoet Sep 2013 #55
Not as much as theft by repigs. xfundy Sep 2013 #58
I don't think he should win, but... devils chaplain Sep 2013 #56
every single one of us owes him a debt of gratitude - whether we all realize it or not Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #60
Snowden certainly performed a vital and significant service fujiyama Sep 2013 #62
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
1. I hope he sweeps the field, along with Manning and Assange
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 07:31 AM
Sep 2013

they are true profiles in courage, working for ordinary people, high tech Mother Teresas.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
3. AGREED, TRUE HEROS, ACTING FOR THE GOOD OF THE NATION
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 07:44 AM
Sep 2013

Without regard to personal consequences. Let's hear for the whistleblowers!

struggle4progress

(118,309 posts)
48. I guess the Greens/EFA and GUE/NGL have dumped Manning
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 06:14 PM
Sep 2013


Greens/EFA and GUE/NGL supported Manning in the past. But perhaps Manning, post-conviction, just does not seem sexy enough for them now, compared to Snowden, who is still deliciously and excitingly hidden in his undisclosed location

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
9. It is a great honor just to be nominated to this illustrious group.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 08:18 AM
Sep 2013

And indicates how well-regarded Snowden is outside of the MIC/Obama administration. I hope the nomination brings him some consolation in his difficult circumstances.

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
10. Thanks for sharing that. I'd be surprised if Mulala doesn't win it.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 08:19 AM
Sep 2013

This young girl is a wonderful role model and a true hero who very nearly lost her life in an extremely dangerous place and should be the headline nominee, IMHO.

JustanAngel

(44 posts)
44. And when Anonymous helped provide the courts and the rest of the world the evidence needed
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 04:42 PM
Sep 2013

to prove that the 15 yr. old, who broke up with her Steubenberg (sp) boyfriend really had been victimized in ways too sick to ever justify, or even to reflect upon. It would be a shame if these whistleblowers' heroics didn't change what has been exposed for a better future.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
7. This sure points out the difference between living in
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 08:13 AM
Sep 2013

the EU and living in a jingoistic America, where all dissent is labeled terrorism.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
16. And yet shooting and killing over a dozen people on military installations or in schools or is not.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 09:38 AM
Sep 2013
 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
11. congrats
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 08:30 AM
Sep 2013

To put Snowden in the same sentence or breath as Malala Yousafzal and Nelson Mandela, is a complete atrocity (IMO)

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
17. Like Obama receiving the Nobel Peace Prize?
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 09:40 AM
Sep 2013

Then going on to double tap innocent civilians using drones?

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
19. Fail, fail & more fail.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 10:29 AM
Sep 2013

Your point would have been more effective if you used George Bush as an example.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
20. Probably, but
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 10:36 AM
Sep 2013

Obama continued so many of bu$h's policies, his first term has been labeled bu$h III.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
31. The second guy upheld his oath to defend the Constitution better than the first guy has to so far.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 11:17 AM
Sep 2013

The first guy is the one continuing so many of Bu$h's policies that "Democrat" is a push. Letting known war criminals walk. Not going after the banks and Wall Streeters the crashed the economy. Bailing out the banks, but not Main Street. Putting Social Security on the table, when it has nothing to do with the debt or Deficit. Pushing the Chained CPI. And don't forget the illegal drone strikes on innocent people in countries we are not at war with. Double tapping even.
The second guy exposed the secret, unconstitutional spying on American citizens, first guy wanted to keep secret.
Plus the second guy has this distinction:

The European Parliament announced Monday that Edward Snowden is one of seven nominees for the 2013 Sakharov Prize for Freedom of Thought.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014596646

But you knew that.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
46. I'm with you RC.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 06:03 PM
Sep 2013

Principles are more important to defend than a man who doesn't stand on them.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
36. agreed
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 12:39 PM
Sep 2013

totally agree with your point. Many who claim Obama is Bush III are not true progressives and liberals. They are want to bes, that will jump ship as soon as they see it sinking, instead of being a true liberal, and staying on the ship to help the others.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
50. To say that Pres Obama has continued the Bush policies IMO is giving both presidents
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 07:01 PM
Sep 2013

too much credit. It implies that both presidents had the ability to change the policies. With regards to foreign policy and economic policy, I contend that that someone else has the power to determine policy. I dont think anyone here would argue that Georgie had any say about foreign policy. Why would we think that Pres Obama does? The foreign policies and economic policies and personnel have transcended the change in presidency.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
51. Well maybe if Obama would stop appointing Republicans to various agencies...
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 07:05 PM
Sep 2013

And appointed Center and Left of Center Democrats, those policies might be different now.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
53. Possibly he doesnt get much of a choice. Let me give a possible example.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 07:16 PM
Sep 2013

When he became the President the NSA, CIA, etc. sat him down and nicely pointed out that the intelligence agencies were operating very smoothly, had major programs in place and were keeping America safe. And maybe they pointed out that if he made any major changes to personnel or policies, the safety of America couldnt be guaranteed and he would take the full responsibility of any terrorist attack. Not direct blackmail but still coercion. Why else would he choose Gen Clapper and Gen Alexander and the rest?

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
29. Bush nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize = Snowden being nominated for the Sakarov Prize.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 11:00 AM
Sep 2013

Having either win would greatly diminish the prestige of the prize.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
35. It seems very likely from that link that he was nominated - but had no chance
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 12:06 PM
Sep 2013

of winning - after all Jimmy Carter getting it then was rather a slap in the face. However, it does sound like it is very possible that he was nominated.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
57. Harald T. Nesvik
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 09:34 PM
Sep 2013
Harald Tom Nesvik (born 4 May 1966 in Ålesund, Norway) is a Norwegian politician and member of the Storting for Møre and Romsdal since 1997. He is a member of the Progress Party (FrP) and is perhaps most famous outside Norway for nominating Tony Blair and George W. Bush for the 2002 Nobel Peace Prize.

...

In 2002 Nesvik achieved brief international media attention when he publicly claimed that he had nominated British Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George W. Bush for the Nobel Peace Prize.

In his statement to the Associated Press, Nesvik justified the claimed nomination, which was controversial to some, as follows: "The background for my nomination is their decisive action against terrorism, something I believe in the future will be the greatest threat to peace... Unfortunately, sometimes... you have to use force to secure peace."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_T._Nesvik


Harald Tom Nesvik, who represents the Party of Progress in the Norwegian parliament, said yesterday: "The background for my nomination is their decisive action against terrorism, something I believe in the future will be the greatest threat to peace. Unfortunately, sometimes you have to use force to secure peace."

Mr Nesvik has nomination rights as a member of a national legislature.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/feb/05/politics.labour


Nobel nomination for Bush and Blair

UK Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George W Bush have been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by a Norwegian politician.

Harald Tom Nesvik, a member of the right-wing Party for Progress, said that he had nominated the two world leaders for fighting terrorism and promoting world peace.

"The background for my nomination is their decisive action against terrorism, something I believe in the future will be the greatest threat to peace," he told the Associated Press news agency.

"Unfortunately, sometimes... you have to use force to secure peace."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1801773.stm


That's from about 30-secs with Google. You do know how to use Google, don't you?

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
61. Why the rudeness? (baldguy: "You do know how to use Google, don't you?")
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 11:58 PM
Sep 2013

Last edited Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:26 AM - Edit history (1)

I often turn to Snopes to dispel the many ludicrous allegations my rightwing, ditto-head, Fox-immersed mom makes against the Obamas, the Clintons (etc.). When I Googled "bush nominated for nobel peace prize," the Snopes entry was at the top of the page. Was there anything inaccurate in the Snopes entry? The nominations are kept secret for 50 years, so real confirmation takes a while, no matter what claims are made. The Snopes entry leaves the impression that it is more likely than not that Bush was nominated in 2002... but also that he had no chance of winning (like "Mickey Mouse" will never be president), so if you would prefer that I take Nesvik's claims as confirmation, then okay, I can do that... but RC was referring to President Obama receiving the Nobel Prize, not just being nominated, so Bush is not a good substitute, since he had zero chance of winning.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
41. Not really - this is a public list of just 7, with multiple MEPs nominating each one
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 03:09 PM
Sep 2013

Snowden has the nomination of the left wing Greens/EFA group and GUE/NGL group. Bush got nominated by one right wing Norwegian Party for Progress MP - the party that the mass murderer Brevik used to belong to. 126 were nominated in the year before.

This is serious; Bush's nomination was a stunt by a far right wing nut.

lark

(23,123 posts)
40. Bush didn't win the Nobel Peace Prize.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 02:22 PM
Sep 2013

Therefore, the example would be invalid with Bush. Is Bush worse than Obama, of course. Did Obama continue WAY too many of Bush's policies and is he even worse on whistleblowers - yes. Siding with Obama over a whistleblower who outted Obama's un-constitutional spying on Americans is basically putting personality over policy.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
12. Once we break the stranglehold . . .
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 08:41 AM
Sep 2013

He will receive the Medal of Freedom as well, once we break the stranglehold the NSA intelligence empire has on our Congress.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
15. Great News!
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 09:34 AM
Sep 2013

Although Yousafzai's story pulls at the heart strings more and IMO deserves the win, its heartening to see Snowden at least recognized for his act of courage. No matter what the chicken-little authoritarians wail about, they cannot deny he single-handedly sparked a conversation on how far the government should be allowed to snoop into our private correspondence. With the leaders of U.S. congressional intelligence committees now investigating along with many foreign powers.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
24. So, when might we expect
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 10:44 AM
Sep 2013

the character destruction of the nominating committee complete with blue links that go nowhere? The big question is, do they have boxes in their garages? Hmmm?

Congrats to Snowden! I agree with the poster above, Malala Yousafzai will probably get it and should, but I do believe the EU is trying to tell something to the Obama Administration.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
27. I think, maybe, just maybe - the World is getting pissed off at the USA.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 10:58 AM
Sep 2013

.
.
.


SERIOUSLY pissed off.

And, getting ready to do something about it.

USA has been sailing around the globe with their warships, making it plain they are the "superpower",

and inflicting damage in dozens of countries at their will.

China and Russia stepped up to the plate this time regarding the Syria issue.

Not really a good idea to have those two allied against the USA.

But USA - PNAC/MIC did it - united them in some form.

NOW - the focus from them is on the USA . .

bad move imo.

CC

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
28. I'd vote for Malala Yousafzai. She already has done more for 'human rights' and a lot more in future
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 11:00 AM
Sep 2013

she's still a child today, can you imagine her future.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
38. DURec!
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 12:49 PM
Sep 2013

I hope he wins.
A WIN for Snowden would add more impetus for the "reforming" of the Out-of-Control US Intelligence agencies,
and a return to Constitutional Limitations on our Government.


 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
42. When i first saw the headline on this, I wanted
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 04:23 PM
Sep 2013

Snowden to WIN, absolutely, but then I read the post and saw that Malala Yousafzai has also been nominated.....HARD choice, but I think I'll support Malala. Ms Bigmack

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,354 posts)
43. Pussy Riot is not on the ballot?
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 04:29 PM
Sep 2013

Snowden must have done something significant for the environment, to get nominated by the Greens.

My money's on Malala, the Press is strong with that one.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
45. A Russian Spy nominated for Human Rights Prize...
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 04:59 PM
Sep 2013




Putin would be rolling over belly laughing this one.

wisenupoet

(2 posts)
55. thief is really paying off
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 08:47 PM
Sep 2013

Steal classifieds doc get award please..
Hiding out get an award
Share secrets with the world get an award
Please tell me why and how he is a hero..

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
58. Not as much as theft by repigs.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 10:00 PM
Sep 2013

Stealing people's homes via big bank foreclosures, stealing old and sick peoples' money with religious bullshit, cutting food stamps, preventing health care for all... actually I don't think you'll last long here so I'm not going to waste the time or energy to go further.

devils chaplain

(602 posts)
56. I don't think he should win, but...
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 09:02 PM
Sep 2013

He gets my thanks for sure. We are getting very overdue and needed scrutiny of the incredibly omnipotent NSA thanks to him.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
62. Snowden certainly performed a vital and significant service
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 01:15 AM
Sep 2013

and he has my admiration. He is indeed a whistle blower and should be recognized as such for his courage.

But if I had to decide between him and Malala, there isn't much of a contest. Malala's courage, especially at her age, is truly remarkable and her efforts in trying to obtain an education and make it available to other girls is nothing short of inspirational. She actually has the scars to prove it. She is trying to do something so many children around the world take for granted. And just because she's in England doesn't mean she's safe. There are plenty of fanatics there as well - and if the paranoid Pakistani reaction is any indication (that she's some sort of CIA plant), then she'll be at risk for the rest of her life. These savages don't give up.

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