Edward Snowden Nominated For EU’s Top Human Rights Prize
Source: TPM
The European Parliament announced Monday that Edward Snowden is one of seven nominees for the 2013 Sakharov Prize for Freedom of Thought.
Snowden was nominated by the Greens, a pro-environment group. The winner will be named next month and will be awarded a 50,000 euro or $65,000 prize, according to the AP. Along with Snowden, other nominees include Malala Yousafzai, the Pakistani teen who was shot last year by the Taliban on her way home from school.
Previous winners of the Sakharov Prize include Nelson Mandela.
Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/edward-snowden-nominated-for-eus-top-human-rights
Demeter
(85,373 posts)they are true profiles in courage, working for ordinary people, high tech Mother Teresas.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)drynberg
(1,648 posts)Without regard to personal consequences. Let's hear for the whistleblowers!
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)struggle4progress
(118,309 posts)Greens/EFA and GUE/NGL supported Manning in the past. But perhaps Manning, post-conviction, just does not seem sexy enough for them now, compared to Snowden, who is still deliciously and excitingly hidden in his undisclosed location
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Tanuki
(14,919 posts)including Malala Yousefzai, who took a bullet in the head for her support of the rights of girls and women, and the Freedom Project to end modern day slavery:
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/content/20130916IPR20013/html/2013-Sakharov-Prize-for-Freedom-of-Thought-seven-nominations
Divernan
(15,480 posts)And indicates how well-regarded Snowden is outside of the MIC/Obama administration. I hope the nomination brings him some consolation in his difficult circumstances.
Turborama
(22,109 posts)This young girl is a wonderful role model and a true hero who very nearly lost her life in an extremely dangerous place and should be the headline nominee, IMHO.
JustanAngel
(44 posts)to prove that the 15 yr. old, who broke up with her Steubenberg (sp) boyfriend really had been victimized in ways too sick to ever justify, or even to reflect upon. It would be a shame if these whistleblowers' heroics didn't change what has been exposed for a better future.
iemitsu
(3,888 posts)the EU and living in a jingoistic America, where all dissent is labeled terrorism.
RC
(25,592 posts)TBF
(32,071 posts)rtracey
(2,062 posts)To put Snowden in the same sentence or breath as Malala Yousafzal and Nelson Mandela, is a complete atrocity (IMO)
RC
(25,592 posts)Then going on to double tap innocent civilians using drones?
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Your point would have been more effective if you used George Bush as an example.
RC
(25,592 posts)Obama continued so many of bu$h's policies, his first term has been labeled bu$h III.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)RC
(25,592 posts)DLC? DINO? New Democrat? Liberal? Progressive?
as a start.
But definitely not
RC
(25,592 posts)The first guy is the one continuing so many of Bu$h's policies that "Democrat" is a push. Letting known war criminals walk. Not going after the banks and Wall Streeters the crashed the economy. Bailing out the banks, but not Main Street. Putting Social Security on the table, when it has nothing to do with the debt or Deficit. Pushing the Chained CPI. And don't forget the illegal drone strikes on innocent people in countries we are not at war with. Double tapping even.
The second guy exposed the secret, unconstitutional spying on American citizens, first guy wanted to keep secret.
Plus the second guy has this distinction:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014596646
But you knew that.
.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Principles are more important to defend than a man who doesn't stand on them.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)totally agree with your point. Many who claim Obama is Bush III are not true progressives and liberals. They are want to bes, that will jump ship as soon as they see it sinking, instead of being a true liberal, and staying on the ship to help the others.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Prove it.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)too much credit. It implies that both presidents had the ability to change the policies. With regards to foreign policy and economic policy, I contend that that someone else has the power to determine policy. I dont think anyone here would argue that Georgie had any say about foreign policy. Why would we think that Pres Obama does? The foreign policies and economic policies and personnel have transcended the change in presidency.
RC
(25,592 posts)And appointed Center and Left of Center Democrats, those policies might be different now.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)When he became the President the NSA, CIA, etc. sat him down and nicely pointed out that the intelligence agencies were operating very smoothly, had major programs in place and were keeping America safe. And maybe they pointed out that if he made any major changes to personnel or policies, the safety of America couldnt be guaranteed and he would take the full responsibility of any terrorist attack. Not direct blackmail but still coercion. Why else would he choose Gen Clapper and Gen Alexander and the rest?
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)deurbano
(2,895 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)Having either win would greatly diminish the prestige of the prize.
deurbano
(2,895 posts)There were rumors Bush was nominated in 2001 and 2002.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/nobel.asp
karynnj
(59,504 posts)of winning - after all Jimmy Carter getting it then was rather a slap in the face. However, it does sound like it is very possible that he was nominated.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)...
In 2002 Nesvik achieved brief international media attention when he publicly claimed that he had nominated British Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George W. Bush for the Nobel Peace Prize.
In his statement to the Associated Press, Nesvik justified the claimed nomination, which was controversial to some, as follows: "The background for my nomination is their decisive action against terrorism, something I believe in the future will be the greatest threat to peace... Unfortunately, sometimes... you have to use force to secure peace."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_T._Nesvik
Mr Nesvik has nomination rights as a member of a national legislature.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/feb/05/politics.labour
UK Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George W Bush have been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by a Norwegian politician.
Harald Tom Nesvik, a member of the right-wing Party for Progress, said that he had nominated the two world leaders for fighting terrorism and promoting world peace.
"The background for my nomination is their decisive action against terrorism, something I believe in the future will be the greatest threat to peace," he told the Associated Press news agency.
"Unfortunately, sometimes... you have to use force to secure peace."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1801773.stm
That's from about 30-secs with Google. You do know how to use Google, don't you?
deurbano
(2,895 posts)Last edited Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:26 AM - Edit history (1)
I often turn to Snopes to dispel the many ludicrous allegations my rightwing, ditto-head, Fox-immersed mom makes against the Obamas, the Clintons (etc.). When I Googled "bush nominated for nobel peace prize," the Snopes entry was at the top of the page. Was there anything inaccurate in the Snopes entry? The nominations are kept secret for 50 years, so real confirmation takes a while, no matter what claims are made. The Snopes entry leaves the impression that it is more likely than not that Bush was nominated in 2002... but also that he had no chance of winning (like "Mickey Mouse" will never be president), so if you would prefer that I take Nesvik's claims as confirmation, then okay, I can do that... but RC was referring to President Obama receiving the Nobel Prize, not just being nominated, so Bush is not a good substitute, since he had zero chance of winning.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)Snowden has the nomination of the left wing Greens/EFA group and GUE/NGL group. Bush got nominated by one right wing Norwegian Party for Progress MP - the party that the mass murderer Brevik used to belong to. 126 were nominated in the year before.
This is serious; Bush's nomination was a stunt by a far right wing nut.
lark
(23,123 posts)Therefore, the example would be invalid with Bush. Is Bush worse than Obama, of course. Did Obama continue WAY too many of Bush's policies and is he even worse on whistleblowers - yes. Siding with Obama over a whistleblower who outted Obama's un-constitutional spying on Americans is basically putting personality over policy.
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)He will receive the Medal of Freedom as well, once we break the stranglehold the NSA intelligence empire has on our Congress.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,175 posts)Although Yousafzai's story pulls at the heart strings more and IMO deserves the win, its heartening to see Snowden at least recognized for his act of courage. No matter what the chicken-little authoritarians wail about, they cannot deny he single-handedly sparked a conversation on how far the government should be allowed to snoop into our private correspondence. With the leaders of U.S. congressional intelligence committees now investigating along with many foreign powers.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)the character destruction of the nominating committee complete with blue links that go nowhere? The big question is, do they have boxes in their garages? Hmmm?
Congrats to Snowden! I agree with the poster above, Malala Yousafzai will probably get it and should, but I do believe the EU is trying to tell something to the Obama Administration.
ConcernedCanuk
(13,509 posts).
.
.
SERIOUSLY pissed off.
And, getting ready to do something about it.
USA has been sailing around the globe with their warships, making it plain they are the "superpower",
and inflicting damage in dozens of countries at their will.
China and Russia stepped up to the plate this time regarding the Syria issue.
Not really a good idea to have those two allied against the USA.
But USA - PNAC/MIC did it - united them in some form.
NOW - the focus from them is on the USA . .
bad move imo.
CC
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)she's still a child today, can you imagine her future.
pscot
(21,024 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)I hope he wins.
A WIN for Snowden would add more impetus for the "reforming" of the Out-of-Control US Intelligence agencies,
and a return to Constitutional Limitations on our Government.
MuseRider
(34,112 posts)Bigmack
(8,020 posts)Snowden to WIN, absolutely, but then I read the post and saw that Malala Yousafzai has also been nominated.....HARD choice, but I think I'll support Malala. Ms Bigmack
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,354 posts)Snowden must have done something significant for the environment, to get nominated by the Greens.
My money's on Malala, the Press is strong with that one.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)Putin would be rolling over belly laughing this one.
struggle4progress
(118,309 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)You achieved your goal of making us talk about surveillance.
wisenupoet
(2 posts)Steal classifieds doc get award please..
Hiding out get an award
Share secrets with the world get an award
Please tell me why and how he is a hero..
xfundy
(5,105 posts)Stealing people's homes via big bank foreclosures, stealing old and sick peoples' money with religious bullshit, cutting food stamps, preventing health care for all... actually I don't think you'll last long here so I'm not going to waste the time or energy to go further.
devils chaplain
(602 posts)He gets my thanks for sure. We are getting very overdue and needed scrutiny of the incredibly omnipotent NSA thanks to him.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)fujiyama
(15,185 posts)and he has my admiration. He is indeed a whistle blower and should be recognized as such for his courage.
But if I had to decide between him and Malala, there isn't much of a contest. Malala's courage, especially at her age, is truly remarkable and her efforts in trying to obtain an education and make it available to other girls is nothing short of inspirational. She actually has the scars to prove it. She is trying to do something so many children around the world take for granted. And just because she's in England doesn't mean she's safe. There are plenty of fanatics there as well - and if the paranoid Pakistani reaction is any indication (that she's some sort of CIA plant), then she'll be at risk for the rest of her life. These savages don't give up.