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Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 03:27 PM Sep 2013

U.S. would notify Israel 'hours' before Syria attack...

Source: NBC News



HERZLIYA, Israel — The United States would notify Israel hours in advance of an attack on Syria, an Israeli official said on Sunday.

While formally on the sidelines of the Syrian crisis, Israel fears coming under reprisals from its northern foe should the United States launch strikes to punish Damascus for alleged use of chemical weaponry.
Asked how much advance notice Israel would get from its U.S. ally about such attacks, an Israeli official briefed on contacts with Washington told Reuters: "Hours."

But a senior strategist for the Defense Ministry said separately Israel was, like the rest of the world, in the dark at present.

"Will the United States attack? Will it not attack? What will the consequences be? All of these things are unknowns," Amos Gilad said in a speech at the International Institute for Counter-Terrorism near Tel Aviv.

Read more: http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/08/20388459-us-would-notify-israel-hours-before-syria-attack-israeli-official?lite

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U.S. would notify Israel 'hours' before Syria attack... (Original Post) Indi Guy Sep 2013 OP
Why wouldn't they, Israel is going to be the hardest hit. Crimson76 Sep 2013 #1
What a propagandist picture. mpcamb Sep 2013 #18
But this is in LBN, Ghost Dog Sep 2013 #23
NBC as part of the MSM is certainly an arm of the propagandists. Indi Guy Sep 2013 #24
"strikes to punish Damascus" arcane1 Sep 2013 #2
I think they are referring to the Syrian government Ruby the Liberal Sep 2013 #4
I understand, but it's just creepy to use it in this context. arcane1 Sep 2013 #5
Of course they would... go west young man Sep 2013 #3
I am going to get a lot of shit for this but: FUCK ISRAEL gopiscrap Sep 2013 #6
no you won't... it's a growing sentiment fascisthunter Sep 2013 #14
Thank you gopiscrap Sep 2013 #15
You won't get flamed by me, gopiscrap Carolina Sep 2013 #20
Thanks I've held my tongue gopiscrap Sep 2013 #21
Ohhh poor boy, the Israeli haters are so persecuted here. former9thward Sep 2013 #25
yeah whatever gopiscrap Sep 2013 #26
Arab Spring, Syria etc shows that problems have little to do with Israel JI7 Sep 2013 #27
Yeah, right. another_liberal Sep 2013 #7
If anything I'd bet durablend Sep 2013 #8
The demand for an attack . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #13
YUP gopiscrap Sep 2013 #28
Interesting. Israeli paper announced 8/17 the US would intervene, three days before the incident leveymg Sep 2013 #9
Wow this needs to get around more gopiscrap Sep 2013 #16
I posted it here and at DKos. Hasn't been for lack of my trying. leveymg Sep 2013 #17
Thanks gopiscrap Sep 2013 #19
Gawd's in the mix! blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #10
Why Wouldn't We Wolf Frankula Sep 2013 #11
Gotta tell the boss first jsr Sep 2013 #12
Riyadh will know a lot sooner. roamer65 Sep 2013 #22
Only makes sense. Scootaloo Sep 2013 #29

mpcamb

(2,871 posts)
18. What a propagandist picture.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:19 PM
Sep 2013

It turns my stomach when pseudo-news organizations beat the drum for war like this.

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
24. NBC as part of the MSM is certainly an arm of the propagandists.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:49 PM
Sep 2013

...And I'm glad that many of us recognize the fact that the MSM have no business calling themselves "news" organizations.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
4. I think they are referring to the Syrian government
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 03:44 PM
Sep 2013

like the world calls our government "Washington" and the Brits "Downing Street".

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
5. I understand, but it's just creepy to use it in this context.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 03:50 PM
Sep 2013

It reminds me of the disconnect the pro-Iraq war people had, where they would say they support the war to liberate the poor down-trodden Iraqis, and then turn around and say we should nuke the place.

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
3. Of course they would...
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 03:39 PM
Sep 2013

it's the 52nd state. England, of course, comes in a close 53rd. There's money to be made!

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
6. I am going to get a lot of shit for this but: FUCK ISRAEL
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 04:06 PM
Sep 2013

At least half the problems in the middle east are caused by the Israeli's and their bullying. Then when they pull shit, they come running to big brother US. No wonder the rest of the middle east hates them. It didn't help when the Palestine was stolen by the Brits and the US and handed over to them after the World War! Flame away!!!!

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
20. You won't get flamed by me, gopiscrap
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:09 PM
Sep 2013

because I feel the same way. We had no problems in the ME until 1948 when we helped create that nation by stealing the land from the Palestinians. Israel is a blight and should be left to sink or swim on its own. I am fucking sick and tired of my tax dollars going to support that bully nation. I'd say more but I can't for fear of the alerters all over this board. Anyway, you're not alone

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
21. Thanks I've held my tongue
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:12 PM
Sep 2013

about this for a long time out of fear that I would get blasted on this board.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
7. Yeah, right.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 04:08 PM
Sep 2013

Like we didn't know Israel has be in on the plan from before the beginning? Don't insult our intelligence.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
13. The demand for an attack . . .
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 06:24 PM
Sep 2013

I don't doubt the demand for an attack came from Netanyahu's government, and that it came long before sarin gas was used in Damascus.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
9. Interesting. Israeli paper announced 8/17 the US would intervene, three days before the incident
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 04:27 PM
Sep 2013

Curiouser and couriouser, especially considering that the Israeli defense publication DEBKAfile called this all perfectly on August 17, three days before the attack. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/08/24/1233633/-Events-in-Syria-Lead-Back-to-Israeli-Report-of-Imminent-US-Led-Attack-from-Jordan

On August 17, DEBKAfile, an Israeli defense blog reported that Gen. Martin Dempsey, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was in Jordan inspecting command and control facilities from which the source reported, the U.S. would lead an attack coordinated with Jordan and Israel on Syria.

That story has been little reported, except to feed follow-on rumors that the Syrian Army (we're now told by DEBKA is under the personal command of the one-legged, one-armed brother of Bashar Assad) had personally commanded Syrian troops firing off Sarin rounds from a mountaintop north of Damascus in an effort to target these same FSA and Jordanian Special Forces troops that a few days earlier were crossing the border into Southern Syria. http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-Syrian-rebel-forces-trained-by-West-are-moving-towards-Damascus-324033 NOTE: This apparent piece of disinformation cites a report that appeared in Le Figaro, but it traces back to the DEBKAfile report of the 17th.

The DEBKAfile report was originally published three days before the incident in Ghorta north of Damascus. (Note that Gen. Dempsey's letter of August 19 to a NY Congressman on Tuesday was strongly skeptical of the utility of an actual U.S. military role in Syria. http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/08/21/2501781/national-security-brief-top-us-military-officer-skeptical-of-syria-intervention/ )

Here's the DEBKAfile report of August 17: http://www.debka.com/article/23199/

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Here's the DEBKAfile 8/17 article:

http://www.debka.com/article/23199/

New Centcom underground war room in Amman for US intervention in Syria
DEBKAfile Video August 17, 2013, 1:58 PM (IDT)

Gen. Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, was in Amman this week to inaugurate the Centcom’s Forward Command in Jordan manned by 273 US officers. US media correspondents were permitted to visit the new war room for the first time on condition of non-disclosure of its location and secret facilities. debkafile’s military sources report that the installation is bomb- and missile-proof against a possible Syrian attack. The US Air Force command section is in direct communication with the US, Israeli, Jordanian and Saudi Air Force headquarters ready for an order by President Barack Obama to impose a partial no-fly zone over Syrian air space.

Another section is designed to coordinate operations between US and Jordanian special forces, as well as the units trained in commando combat by US instructors in Jordan. A closed section houses CIA personnel who control the work of US agents going in and out of Syria and also a communications center.
In his briefing to US forces Thursday, Aug. 15, Gen. Dempsey commented: “Jordan lives in a very volatile region and at a very critical time in its history. They can count on us to continue to be their partner.”

He suggested that the operation could continue well into next year or beyond.
Situated atop the underground facility is a large surface structure accommodating the American military and civilian offices dealing with Syrian issues from Jordan. It is guarded by US and Jordanian security units.

There are today some 1,000 US military personnel in the Hashemite Kingdom, plus a squadron of F-16 fighters and several Patriot anti-missile batteries strung along the Jordanian-Syrian border to shield Jordanian and American bases and the capital, Amman.
This special debkafile video presentation illustrates US, Saudi, and Jordanian preparations for military intervention in the Syrian civil war and its likely repercussions.

Obama’s final decision on US military intervention – consisting of a no fly and a buffer zone in Syria – is expected in the coming two to three weeks, depending on Dempsey’s recommendations upon his return to Washington after checking out preparations in Israel and Jordan. In neither operation will US boots touch Syrian soil.

The buffer zone in the south up to Damascus would be captured by 3,000 rebels trained in special operations tactics and armed by US forces in Jordan. Jordanian special forces are to spearhead the operation under US command.

Assad may take the fight outside his borders by launching missiles against Israel, Jordan and maybe Turkey.
Hizballah may join in with rocket attacks on Israel. Iran will beef up its active military presence in Syria and Jordan. And Russian Rapid Intervention units are on standby for saving Assad at their Black Sea and South Caucasian bases




Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
11. Why Wouldn't We
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 04:44 PM
Sep 2013

We're Israel's colony. We do Israel's dirty work.

Here's a way to pay for a war with Syria. 1: We stop all aid to Israel. 2: We demand repayment for all past aid.

Wolf

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
22. Riyadh will know a lot sooner.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:23 PM
Sep 2013

We will want them to "cut the check".

No doubt the Saudis will then pass the information to the Israelis well before we do.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
29. Only makes sense.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:37 AM
Sep 2013

"Hey, Israel, we're about to throw a cinder block into the mud puddle there, you might get splashed!"

Letting Israel know certainly isn't a problem. The problem is that Israel's leaders are so myopic and intellectually inbred that they apparently think this will be a good thing for Israel and the region as a whole.

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