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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:03 AM Sep 2013

Kerry Announces Saudi Support for Syrian Strike

Source: NYT

By MICHAEL R. GORDON
Published: September 8, 2013

PARIS — Secretary of State John Kerry said Sunday that Saudi Arabia had agreed to support military intervention in Syria.

At a news conference on the sidebar of a meeting with Arab League foreign ministers, Mr. Kerry noted that he had received Saudi assurances of support for what he called “the strike.”

Qatar’s foreign minister, Khalid Al Attiya, who joined Mr. Kerry at the news conference, stopped short of explicitly endorsing a military strike but said that his nation would back foreign intervention.

Mr. Attiya said that supporters of the President Bashar al-Assad of Syria had already intervened in the conflict, an allusion to Iran and Hezbollah. He called on “all countries to intervene to protect the Syrian people” and said that Qatar was looking at what it could provide to help safeguard the Syrian population.


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/09/world/middleeast/kerry-announces-saudi-support-for-syrian-strike.html?hp&_r=0

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Kerry Announces Saudi Support for Syrian Strike (Original Post) n2doc Sep 2013 OP
They're not only endorsing it, they're offering to pay for it. backscatter712 Sep 2013 #1
Yeah we're so happy that our economy is improving now that they dropped the price of oil by 2 cents. L0oniX Sep 2013 #22
But only after the Princes have one last fling in the South of France warrant46 Sep 2013 #39
unless/until SA sends in its own military, we shouldn't even entertain the thought wordpix Sep 2013 #47
Bless their little hearts. We need an announcement for this after him saying they Autumn Sep 2013 #2
Kerry also said dipsydoodle Sep 2013 #3
Maybe who they are is classified too. Just as their "proof" is classified Autumn Sep 2013 #8
I remember he mentioned Poland during the hearings, but they said they won't participate and think jakeXT Sep 2013 #10
"in support" and sending armed forces to back rebels are 2 different things wordpix Sep 2013 #48
11 of the 20 EU countries declared there support yesterday karynnj Sep 2013 #12
They did not declare support for military action and none of them offered to join Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #16
You see a lot of disingenuous key board activity lately warrant46 Sep 2013 #40
He crosses his eyes and he see's double. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #19
These little known countries are only offering moral support. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #29
He may be refering to Bandar's offer to pay for it. GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #4
al Queda supporters support a strike to help the al Queda rebels. former9thward Sep 2013 #5
Well! That's all right then! bread_and_roses Sep 2013 #6
exactly! Carolina Sep 2013 #20
Are they actually going to send troops? christx30 Sep 2013 #21
Hey look, a new a law against the abuse of women, will it be enforced ? jakeXT Sep 2013 #25
Saudi Arabia executes people for being gay Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #7
This was my thinking tawadi Sep 2013 #45
Agreed to "support" but no way are they going to do it themselves!!!!!! Right? Coyotl Sep 2013 #9
I don't think that was ever in question daleo Sep 2013 #11
Saudi Arabia, always worried about humanitarian issues... n/t ocpagu Sep 2013 #13
Yes, their record on GLBT rights has been stunning Ocelot Sep 2013 #14
No shit. Oil is going to $150 a barrell. CanonRay Sep 2013 #15
Kerry can go announce my fart gas! n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #17
LOonix, you are on a roll today! Brigid Sep 2013 #33
Screw SA....let Israel do the deed. elias49 Sep 2013 #18
Nothing could possibly be better,as far as they are concerned, than a regional war that drives up leveymg Sep 2013 #23
Kerry, War Hawk blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #24
Hey Kerry, no shit sherlock! Little Star Sep 2013 #26
How about the fucking Saudis do the killing JEB Sep 2013 #27
'Qatar’s foreign minister, Khalid Al Attiya...... pangaia Sep 2013 #28
Kerry needs to check out what China & Russia are willing to pay to put out their little toby jo Sep 2013 #30
Hell No! Stay out of the Syrian civil war. sarcasmo Sep 2013 #31
Could you see Bandar Bush's lips move? Doctor_J Sep 2013 #32
I know we have budget problems, oldandhappy Sep 2013 #34
These are the same Saudis who sent 1200 death row inmates over to fight against Assad n2doc Sep 2013 #35
And now they can do the beheading /nt jakeXT Sep 2013 #41
So the Saudis, like other chicken-hawks, are going to be behind our troops? AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #36
Isn't it great to have support from a country that treats LGBT's with totodeinhere Sep 2013 #37
Interesting Acronym that "SOS" - Take ur pick Kerry . . . ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #38
This ought to get Iran going. roamer65 Sep 2013 #42
The Saudis should do their own dirty work. winter is coming Sep 2013 #43
That's the LEAST the Saudis can do. After all, they provided the Sarin in the first place. nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #44
Hey - Saudis Just Get Up And Do It Yourselves Along With GCC Partners! mazzarro Sep 2013 #46
The Saudi Arabia can go bomb Syria Marrah_G Sep 2013 #49
Awesome! jsr Sep 2013 #50
When Bandar Bush is involved, you can count on two things: HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #51
That's nice fujiyama Sep 2013 #52

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
1. They're not only endorsing it, they're offering to pay for it.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:13 AM
Sep 2013

Hmmm. Very generous. What's in it for them?

Oh yeah, it allows them to tighten their oil monopoly, and to spread their fanatical Wahhabist flavor of Islam to more places.

So why should the U.S. allow themselves to be Saudi Arabia's hired mercenary army?

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
22. Yeah we're so happy that our economy is improving now that they dropped the price of oil by 2 cents.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:46 AM
Sep 2013

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
47. unless/until SA sends in its own military, we shouldn't even entertain the thought
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:59 PM
Sep 2013

Let the Saudis risk life and limb and then we'll talk. Until then, we are NOT SA's hired mercenary force.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
2. Bless their little hearts. We need an announcement for this after him saying they
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:15 AM
Sep 2013

would be willing to pay for it? And bless Kerry's little heart too.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
3. Kerry also said
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:15 AM
Sep 2013

the number of countries in favor of miliatary intervention now in double figures..........whoo hoo.

It would however appear to be a secret exactly who they are other than Saudi above a few of tiny emirates.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
10. I remember he mentioned Poland during the hearings, but they said they won't participate and think
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:28 AM
Sep 2013

it's a bad idea.

“Poland will not participate in any type of military intervention in Syria,” Prime Minister Donald Tusk said on Wednesday morning.
...

Though he understands the reasons and motivation for the US, UK, France, Turkey and others who are in favour of military intervention following the alleged chemical attacks by the Syrian regime near Damascus last week, Prime Minister Tusk does “not share the faith and enthusiasm of those who believe that such an intervention will have the desired effect”.

...

“We have experience in this part of the world, which shows that military intervention, even from the most obvious and noble motives, rarely produces the desired effect,” Tusk added, referring to Poland’s experience of sending troops to Iraq and Afghanistan.

...

http://www.thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/145573,Poland-will-not-join-strikes-on-Syria


A further 30 or more have said Assad was responsible, according to the State Department, and nine were in support of US military action: Australia, Albania, Kosovo, Canada, Denmark, France, Poland, Romania and Turkey. An unspecified number had offered military support of their own, but the US says it has the capacity to act alone if necessary.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/obama-syria-support-g20-congress

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
48. "in support" and sending armed forces to back rebels are 2 different things
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:02 PM
Sep 2013

That's the disingenuous part

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
16. They did not declare support for military action and none of them offered to join
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:41 AM
Sep 2013

So your post is disingenuous at best.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
29. These little known countries are only offering moral support.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:35 PM
Sep 2013

They have no skin in the game whatsoever. That sure big of those guys.

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
20. exactly!
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:44 AM
Sep 2013

and 15 of the 19 hijackers along with bin Laden were Saudi...

With friends/supporters like these....

christx30

(6,241 posts)
21. Are they actually going to send troops?
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:44 AM
Sep 2013

Probably not. They need those brave men there to stop alcohol use. And to prevent women from driving. That's important stuff.
Can't let society go to hell.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
25. Hey look, a new a law against the abuse of women, will it be enforced ?
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:51 AM
Sep 2013
Saudi Arabia cabinet passes ban on domestic violence


Saudi Arabia's cabinet has passed a ban on domestic violence and other forms of abuse against women for the first time in the Kingdom's history.

The cabinet approved the ban on physical or sexual violence earlier this week, which applies both at home or within the work place.

The legislation makes domestic violence a punishable crime for the first time. It also provides treatment and shelter for victims of abuse and holds law enforcement agencies accountable for investigating and prosecuting allegations of abuse.

The ban includes penalties of a maximum12 month jail sentence and fines of up to $13,000.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-cabinet-passes-ban-on-domestic-violence-8789358.html

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
7. Saudi Arabia executes people for being gay
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:21 AM
Sep 2013

If the Saudis are our allies in a "humanitarian mission" then we should really question whether it is truly humanitarian as the Saudi government is not exactly known for a great human rights record. I can assure you that the Saudis involvement has nothing to do with concern for the human rights of the people of Syria.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
9. Agreed to "support" but no way are they going to do it themselves!!!!!! Right?
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:23 AM
Sep 2013

This is hilarious. They already fund the conflict and reap billions in profits for doing so.

Mission Accomplished = Crude Oil at 28-Month High on Heightened Syria Tensions = Saudi's Profits $$$
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023616321

daleo

(21,317 posts)
11. I don't think that was ever in question
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:29 AM
Sep 2013

Since their government supports the same Islamic fundamentalist ideology as the majority of the Syrian rebels do.

 

Ocelot

(227 posts)
14. Yes, their record on GLBT rights has been stunning
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:39 AM
Sep 2013

Even more so than Russia's. I'm sure our GLBT men and women in uniform will enjoy dying for their cause!

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
18. Screw SA....let Israel do the deed.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:44 AM
Sep 2013

It seems to me that Israel has the most to lose/gain in the region. Let them do what the US has no right to do. Let them do the surgical (or non-surgical strikes). There's a shit-storm brewing in the Mid-East. Why not let 'er rip. Get it over with.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
23. Nothing could possibly be better,as far as they are concerned, than a regional war that drives up
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:47 AM
Sep 2013

oil prices - provided, of course, that their precious reserves, pipelines, and ports are protected. Guess who's going to do that?

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
27. How about the fucking Saudis do the killing
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:05 PM
Sep 2013

since we are going to pay for it one way or higher oil prices anyway?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
28. 'Qatar’s foreign minister, Khalid Al Attiya......
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:11 PM
Sep 2013

called on “all countries to intervene to protect the Syrian people” and said that Qatar was looking at what it could provide to help safeguard the Syrian population. '

Oh bull... GAS think GAS !!!

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
30. Kerry needs to check out what China & Russia are willing to pay to put out their little
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:41 PM
Sep 2013

hotspots, too.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
34. I know we have budget problems,
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:49 PM
Sep 2013

but hiring our military out as mercenaries is not the answer. Let the Arab League step up. Let the Saudi planes do this.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
37. Isn't it great to have support from a country that treats LGBT's with
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 01:41 PM
Sep 2013

imprisonment, corporal punishment and capital punishment? And yes I realize that the Russians who support Assad also have an abysmal record on LGBT rights but Kerry isn't claiming support from them. He's touting support from that bastion of human rights Saudi Arabia.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
38. Interesting Acronym that "SOS" - Take ur pick Kerry . . .
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 02:18 PM
Sep 2013

.
.
.

Sack Of Stuff (polite form)

Same 'ol Situation

Send Our Ships

Shoot on Site

Significant Other Strike

Snake Oil Salesman

more - http://www.acronymfinder.com/SOS.html

CC

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
43. The Saudis should do their own dirty work.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 03:14 PM
Sep 2013

I've yet to see any convincing arguments that bombing will accomplish anything other than stirring up an already fiery situation.

mazzarro

(3,450 posts)
46. Hey - Saudis Just Get Up And Do It Yourselves Along With GCC Partners!
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 03:37 PM
Sep 2013

Since you have all those gold-plated super-duper weapons that you bought from the US and the western countries that are far superior to whatever Assad has. It would an easy walkover for you - Saudis. Don't you think?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
51. When Bandar Bush is involved, you can count on two things:
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:54 PM
Sep 2013

Saudi Royals will get the profits, and the US will get the Tarbaby.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
52. That's nice
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 12:17 AM
Sep 2013

Is that supposed to actually make anyone better about this? Is this supposed to be reassuring in some way - that we are the Saudis' hired hitmen, their mercenaries?

Sorry Sec. Kerry, you're not fooling anyone.

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