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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 07:55 PM Feb 2012

BREAKING NEWS: Jury finds George Huguely guilty of second-degree murder of ex-girlfriend

Last edited Thu Feb 23, 2012, 12:34 AM - Edit history (2)

Jurors on Wednesday found former University of Virginia lacrosse player George Huguely V guilty of second-degree murder in the death of his ex-girlfriend, NBC News reported.

Huguely of Chevy Chase, Md., was charged in the death of 22-year-old Yeardley Love, whose body was found battered, bleeding and bruised in the bedroom of her Charlottesville apartment in the early hours of May 3, 2010.

The jury of seven men and five women also found Huguely guilty of grand larceny but not guilty on four other charges: felony murder in the commission or attempted commission of a robbery; robbery; burglary - breaking and entering with intent to commit larceny; and statutory burglary - breaking and entering with intent to commit assault and battery.

Huguely, 24, did not visibly react to the verdict, and there was no overt sign of emotion from families of the victim and the defendant.

More at: http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/22/10480705-jurors-find-huguely-guilty-in-virginia-lacrosse-slaying

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BREAKING NEWS: Jury finds George Huguely guilty of second-degree murder of ex-girlfriend (Original Post) Playinghardball Feb 2012 OP
That is a victory for the defense in this case. n/t Inspired Feb 2012 #1
Not really. LisaL Feb 2012 #2
True but I bet they are celebrating anything less than a 1st degree conviction. Inspired Feb 2012 #4
Whether they will celebrate or not depends on what kind of time in prison he gets. LisaL Feb 2012 #5
Was Murder One the top charge? rocktivity Feb 2012 #14
They wanted murder one Nancy Waterman Feb 2012 #38
They should have done a plea deal for it, then rocktivity Feb 2012 #40
George Huguely is the 5th George Huguely in his family line alp227 Feb 2012 #3
If this guy serves 5 yrs I will be surprised. He'll get some easy place to stay. Watch. Money southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #6
He has already served 20-some months, RebelOne Feb 2012 #9
He is facing up to sixty years. LisaL Feb 2012 #10
I hope the judge runs the sentences consecutively rocktivity Feb 2012 #16
Gee, wonder if daddy's wealth had anything to do with it. southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #19
Jury has recommended 26 years. onenote Feb 2012 #24
So he'll do, what 13 if he's good? And he has already done a year and a half or so. MADem Feb 2012 #29
Virginia abolished parole in 1995 onenote Feb 2012 #31
I've just never been a fan of brutal murder, is all. I'm funny like that. NT MADem Feb 2012 #32
I'm not a fan of it either. But I also believe that justice should be tempered onenote Feb 2012 #35
You'll be surprised. onenote Feb 2012 #25
He deserves the death penalty, mia Feb 2012 #7
The death penalty wasn't under consideration obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #12
and you know that based on what? onenote Feb 2012 #23
Some people love to play judge, jury, and executioner a2liberal Feb 2012 #28
No surprise. Rich boy gets at least adequate legal help. underpants Feb 2012 #8
I think that's absolutely correct. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2012 #13
They really didn't do much in court from what I have read underpants Feb 2012 #18
Thank god he is finally out of that lacrosse ghetto! Tom Ripley Feb 2012 #11
Message deleted by the DU Administrators sdghjtyjty Feb 2012 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author rocktivity Feb 2012 #17
In a police interrogation video viewed by jurors, Huguely said rocktivity Feb 2012 #20
he was charged with breaking and entering onenote Feb 2012 #26
The article describes statutory burglarly as being "WITH INTENT to commit assault and battery." rocktivity Feb 2012 #27
In Virginia that would be the simple crime of trespass, a misdemeanor onenote Feb 2012 #30
But simple trespass doesn't mention either force or damage to property. rocktivity Feb 2012 #36
Apparently he put his foot through the door. MADem Feb 2012 #34
That kind of thing can happen to anyone rocktivity Feb 2012 #21
And in the back too, amIright? They must have been retreating through the kitchen..... PavePusher Feb 2012 #22
That was funny, that exchange! MADem Feb 2012 #33
Wow...And this is a state that is orgasmic over sending people to the electric chair Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #37
Poster above said Virginia abolished parole in the 1990's Nancy Waterman Feb 2012 #39

Inspired

(3,957 posts)
4. True but I bet they are celebrating anything less than a 1st degree conviction.
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 08:35 PM
Feb 2012

But what the hell do I know.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
5. Whether they will celebrate or not depends on what kind of time in prison he gets.
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 08:37 PM
Feb 2012

There is quite a big range.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
14. Was Murder One the top charge?
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 09:30 PM
Feb 2012

Based on the article, it doesn't look like there was a strong case for pre-meditation. It looks like the top charge was Murder 2 with a lesser included (backup) charge of felony murder -- in which case, the prosecution DID win.


rocktivity

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
40. They should have done a plea deal for it, then
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 02:10 AM
Feb 2012

especially since the prosecution was willing to settle for Murder 2. Hughley could have ended up looking at no more then ten years, and his Daddy could have ended up saving a few bucks, not to mention the family's reputation.


rocktivity

alp227

(32,025 posts)
3. George Huguely is the 5th George Huguely in his family line
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 08:34 PM
Feb 2012

"Huguely's great grandfather, George Huguely Sr., founded the company Galliher & Huguely in 1912, and has since been supplying the greater Washington D.C., area with construction supplies. Today, it is Huguely's grandfather who serves as the president of the company.

The suspect's own father, George Huguely IV, is described as a self-employed investor, and according to Federal Election Commission filings, has given generously to the Republican Party over the years." (ABC News, 5/6/10, "Accused UVA Murderer Came from A Life of Privilege&quot

Well, even members of the Lucky Lineage can get real justice. George V's arrogance got to his head too late for redemption. I guess you can keep naming your son after yourself for so many generations.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
6. If this guy serves 5 yrs I will be surprised. He'll get some easy place to stay. Watch. Money
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 08:57 PM
Feb 2012

talks. It would be nice if he reflects on what he did. However, I don't think it will do any good. He seems arrogant and the world owes him something. Spoiled little brat.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
29. So he'll do, what 13 if he's good? And he has already done a year and a half or so.
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 04:22 AM
Feb 2012

Still a light sentence for killing someone.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
31. Virginia abolished parole in 1995
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 09:17 AM
Feb 2012

From the tone of your post, it would seem that is something you would applaud.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
35. I'm not a fan of it either. But I also believe that justice should be tempered
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 10:04 AM
Feb 2012

with mercy and that the purpose of imprisonment is not merely retribution. I support the concept of parole for the same reason that I don't support inflexible mandatory sentencing -- individualized assessments of felons, both at the time of sentencing and later, are more just, imo.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
12. The death penalty wasn't under consideration
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 09:20 PM
Feb 2012

But life without parole was. I am very disappointed it wasn't First Degree. It was premeditated.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
23. and you know that based on what?
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:44 PM
Feb 2012

The jury, which heard more of the evidence than you did disagreed, so why are you so certain you know what they don't?

a2liberal

(1,524 posts)
28. Some people love to play judge, jury, and executioner
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 03:40 AM
Feb 2012

It's part of the lust for revenge that can consume without consideration of or concern for minor things like actual guilt (or level of guilt). The same thing that had people livid over Casey Anthony being acquitted (because she "seemed" guilty even though there was no hard evidence) or had people assuming DSK was guilty of rape and should pay. It feeds a primal urge to feel safe by making sure "the bad guy" is known and punished (also what leads to stereotyping and ostracizing of groups...). I unfortunately have come to expect it from the general populace but it really saddens me when I see progressives fall into that trap.

underpants

(182,803 posts)
8. No surprise. Rich boy gets at least adequate legal help.
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 09:06 PM
Feb 2012

I knew this was coming when a friend from Maryland told me how rich his old man is. The only reason he was in UVa is because it was an option when he was born.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
13. I think that's absolutely correct.
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 09:21 PM
Feb 2012

He was able to afford top notch legal talent, like anyone facing a serious criminal charge would want.

That legal talent got him off on the most serious charge, which seems a just decision, given what little I know of the case.

He had money and was able to get justice. In America, you can have all the justice you can afford.

underpants

(182,803 posts)
18. They really didn't do much in court from what I have read
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 09:47 PM
Feb 2012

but tainting the jury pool in Charlottesville and selecting the right jury was where the old man's money paid off.

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rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
20. In a police interrogation video viewed by jurors, Huguely said
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 09:56 PM
Feb 2012

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he went to Love's apartment to talk about their sputtering, two-year relationship and she "freaked out" when he broke into her room. Their encounter quickly turned physical, with Huguely admitting he may have shaken her but insisting he didn't grab her neck or punch her. He also claimed she repeatedly banged her head on the bedroom wall.

Newsflash, Huguely -- in the real world, it's standard operating procedure to freak out when someone breaks into your room. What was he accustomed to, being served tea and scones?

He admitted to breaking in? Then why wasn't he charged with breaking and entering alone?

And SHE's the one who repeatedly banged her head on the wall? Well, was that before, after, or DURING the time in which Huguely "may have" shaken her?


rocktivity

onenote

(42,703 posts)
26. he was charged with breaking and entering
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:59 PM
Feb 2012

In Virginia the crime of breaking and entering is called Statutory Burglary and that was one of the charges (along with "burglary&quot

§ 18.2-90. Entering dwelling house, etc., with intent to commit murder, rape, robbery or arson; penalty.

If any person in the nighttime enters without breaking or in the daytime breaks and enters or enters and conceals himself in a dwelling house or an adjoining, occupied outhouse or in the nighttime enters without breaking or at any time breaks and enters or enters and conceals himself in any building permanently affixed to realty, or any ship, vessel or river craft or any railroad car, or any automobile, truck or trailer, if such automobile, truck or trailer is used as a dwelling or place of human habitation, with intent to commit murder, rape, robbery or arson in violation of §§ 18.2-77, 18.2-79 or § 18.2-80, he shall be deemed guilty of statutory burglary, which offense shall be a Class 3 felony. However, if such person was armed with a deadly weapon at the time of such entry, he shall be guilty of a Class 2 felony.


§ 18.2-91. Entering dwelling house, etc., with intent to commit larceny, assault and battery or other felony.

If any person commits any of the acts mentioned in § 18.2-90 with intent to commit larceny, or any felony other than murder, rape, robbery or arson in violation of §§ 18.2-77, 18.2-79 or § 18.2-80, or if any person commits any of the acts mentioned in § 18.2-89 or § 18.2-90 with intent to commit assault and battery, he shall be guilty of statutory burglary, punishable by confinement in a state correctional facility for not less than one or more than twenty years or, in the discretion of the jury or the court trying the case without a jury, be confined in jail for a period not exceeding twelve months or fined not more than $2,500, either or both. However, if the person was armed with a deadly weapon at the time of such entry, he shall be guilty of a Class 2 felony.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
27. The article describes statutory burglarly as being "WITH INTENT to commit assault and battery."
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 01:03 AM
Feb 2012

I don't believe he broke in with an intent to kill, or even to take her laptop with him when he left. I believe he broke in because she refused to let him in. Isn't THAT a crime?


rocktivity

onenote

(42,703 posts)
30. In Virginia that would be the simple crime of trespass, a misdemeanor
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 09:02 AM
Feb 2012

If any person without authority of law goes upon or remains upon the lands, buildings or premises of another, or any portion or area thereof, after having been forbidden to do so, either orally or in writing, by the owner, lessee, custodian, or the agent of any such person, or other person lawfully in charge thereof, or after having been forbidden to do so by a sign or signs posted by or at the direction of such persons or the agent of any such person or by the holder of any easement or other right-of-way authorized by the instrument creating such interest to post such signs on such lands, structures, premises or portion or area thereof at a place or places where it or they may be reasonably seen, or if any person, whether he is the owner, tenant or otherwise entitled to the use of such land, building or premises, goes upon, or remains upon such land, building or premises after having been prohibited from doing so by a court of competent jurisdiction by an order issued pursuant to §§ 16.1-253, 16.1-253.1, 16.1-253.4, 16.1-278.2 through 16.1-278.6, 16.1-278.8, 16.1-278.14, 16.1-278.15, 16.1-279.1, 19.2-152.8, 19.2-152.9 or § 19.2-152.10 or an ex parte order issued pursuant to § 20-103, and after having been served with such order, he shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. This section shall not be construed to affect in any way the provisions of §§ 18.2-132 through 18.2-136.

I know it seems like a gap in the law that is nothing in between simple misdemeanor and forcibly entering a dwelling without the intent to commit any other offense but that's the way it is under the Virginia criminal code.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
36. But simple trespass doesn't mention either force or damage to property.
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 04:04 PM
Feb 2012

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The jury was right to acquit him of the breaking and entering charges, then -- they didn't apply. There is a "gap" in VA law, indeed: there should be one that "simply" says that it's illegal to forcibly enter a dwelling, period.

Thanks for all your help!


rocktivity

MADem

(135,425 posts)
34. Apparently he put his foot through the door.
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 09:52 AM
Feb 2012

They found his leg hairs around the hole, and his leg was bloodied.

I'd say that kind of ruckus would freak anyone out. Pity she didn't call 911 straight off.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
21. That kind of thing can happen to anyone
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 10:24 PM
Feb 2012

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I once found an old boyfriend of mine with another woman. And they were both so ashamed of themselves, they bumped into a knife that just happened to be there. Thirty times. EACH!!!


rocktivity

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
22. And in the back too, amIright? They must have been retreating through the kitchen.....
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 10:40 PM
Feb 2012
(Joke, of course.)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
33. That was funny, that exchange!
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 09:50 AM
Feb 2012

Truly! I love a little vicious wit every now and again--it's getting too rare around these parts of late, unfortunately.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
37. Wow...And this is a state that is orgasmic over sending people to the electric chair
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 08:40 PM
Feb 2012

The rich kid will have a good part of his life left when he gets paroled...

Nancy Waterman

(6,407 posts)
39. Poster above said Virginia abolished parole in the 1990's
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 08:57 PM
Feb 2012

I am still getting over that shocking reality. I really can't stand what goes on in Virginia.
I am in Maryland and cross the river as little as possible.

The real issue with Hugely is his very obvious alcoholism and the fact that he got out
of control, belligerent, and violent when drunk. It seems no one addressed this in his 24 years.

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