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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 12:47 PM Jul 2013

Senate Majority Whip: FISA Court Is 'Fixed' & 'Loaded' (Durbin wants to limit NSAs Data Collection)

Source: The Atlantic

Senate Majority Whip: FISA Court Is 'Fixed' and 'Loaded'
Dick Durbin wants to add a civil-liberties advocate to the court's proceedings and to limit the NSA's data collection.


The Obama Administration says the FISA court adequately safeguards Americans' civil liberties. Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin, who holds the second-highest Democratic leadership position in the Senate, disagrees.

"These FISA courts -- there should be a real court proceeding," he said on Sunday. "In this case, it's fixed in a way. It's loaded. There's only one case coming before the FISA court: the government's case. Let's have an advocate, or someone, standing up for civil liberties, to speak up for the privacy of Americans when they make each of these decisions, and let's release some of the transcripts, redacted, carefully redacted, so that people understand the debate that's going on in these FISA courts." When you've got a senior lawmaker calling a secret court "fixed in a way," implying that it doesn't conduct "real" proceedings, and affirming that its judges aren't hearing information that would be relevant to their decisions, that's alarming.

Unless, of course, what you want is a rubber stamp for the surveillance state.

Durbin said in the same interview that Congress should rein in the NSA's data hoovering. "I really believe that we should limit this metadata collection," he said. "The notion that we're going to collect all the phone records of everyone living in an area code on the off chance that someone in that area code may be a suspect at a later time goes way too far." Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has been much more deferential to the executive branch on this issue.

Read more: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/07/senate-majority-whip-fisa-court-is-fixed-and-loaded/278163/

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Senate Majority Whip: FISA Court Is 'Fixed' & 'Loaded' (Durbin wants to limit NSAs Data Collection) (Original Post) kpete Jul 2013 OP
Sen. Reid lark Jul 2013 #1
Many thanks to Durbin. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #2
But, but .. I thought all good loyal Democrats were supporting the WH on all-things-NSA? 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #3
The Obamabots blindly support everything just like the Bushbots did. PSPS Jul 2013 #5
Bad news - he's contradicting the president on this Doctor_J Jul 2013 #4
K&R + a link to Top Level Telecommunications Nicknames and Codewords page bobthedrummer Jul 2013 #6
bookmarked...nt Jesus Malverde Jul 2013 #10
k & r! nt wildbilln864 Jul 2013 #7
K&R!!! Segami Jul 2013 #8
FISA court is 10/11 Bush/Reagan appointees. /nt Ash_F Jul 2013 #9

lark

(23,105 posts)
1. Sen. Reid
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 01:14 PM
Jul 2013

Is a total waste of space DINO and an embarassment to his party. Of course, he represents the 1% almost always, so he retains his office despite his extreme spinlessness.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
2. Many thanks to Durbin.
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 02:18 PM
Jul 2013

He is targeting two major problems with the data collection.

Sounds like a good start. But then, who knows what is really going on. Judging from the recent past, I assume it is much worse than we could ever imagine.

I really never believed that my government, after the debacle of Viet Nam would ever lie us into going to war. But, it did.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
3. But, but .. I thought all good loyal Democrats were supporting the WH on all-things-NSA?
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 02:32 PM
Jul 2013

I guess that super-close vote in the House last week is still reverberating on The Hill.

PSPS

(13,601 posts)
5. The Obamabots blindly support everything just like the Bushbots did.
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 04:45 PM
Jul 2013

I anticipate Obama will continue to be an obstacle to any progress on reining in this rogue surveillance.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
4. Bad news - he's contradicting the president on this
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 02:52 PM
Jul 2013

Good news - he's contradicting the GOP congressional delegation

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