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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 08:18 AM Jul 2013

Pope Francis' killer pace wearing out his aides

Source: AP

RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) - The 76-year-old Argentine Jesuit, who lost most of one lung following an infection in his youth, has been acting like a man half his age during his first international trip as pope, adding in events at the last minute to his already full schedule and gamely going with the flow after heavy rains forced major changes in the World Youth Day agenda.

His spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, noted Thursday that such vigorous activity has been the norm at the Vatican ever since Francis came to town, saying the Vatican's usually staid bureaucrats were getting "stressed out" by his pace - and that that was a good thing.

But he quipped: "I'm happy we're half-way through because if it were any longer I'd be destroyed."

Francis added two unscheduled events Thursday to an already full day: a morning Mass with some 300 seminarians from the region, and then a meeting at Rio's cathedral with some 30,000 Argentine pilgrims.

Read more: http://www.presstelegram.com/breakingnews/ci_23734300/pope-francis-killer-pace-wearing-out-his-aides

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Pope Francis' killer pace wearing out his aides (Original Post) bemildred Jul 2013 OP
lots of things to do and.... madrchsod Jul 2013 #1
I doubt his aides are much younger Lurks Often Jul 2013 #2
Something tells me he'd just be happy as clams in mud Volaris Jul 2013 #3
This......... Beacool Jul 2013 #7
Yes, yes. And it must feel GOOD to get out of the unholy precincts Hekate Jul 2013 #10
I'm glad you like the word phrasing I used lol. Volaris Jul 2013 #12
I think that must have been what my late aunt and uncle got involved with Hekate Jul 2013 #13
He was seen leaping over tall buildings in a single bound just yesterday. nt Javaman Jul 2013 #4
That headline made me jump... Demoiselle Jul 2013 #5
Don't get me started on headlines, we could be here all day. bemildred Jul 2013 #6
I know, I had to read it twice. Beacool Jul 2013 #8
They had to make it seem more than what it is. LiberalFighter Jul 2013 #9
Yeah, the Curia got used to living like courtiers in Benedict's imperial court. Beacool Jul 2013 #15
Not at all brought up Catholic, but I like this guy quite a bit. Seems to be real. freshwest Jul 2013 #11
Well-planned marketing offensives are meant to make people think like that. 2ndAmForComputers Jul 2013 #16
Excellent analogy. joshcryer Jul 2013 #18
And, occasionally, it is what it is. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2013 #19
Lots of practice outrunning pedophile priest lawsuits. Fearless Jul 2013 #14
He's done an excellent job reinvigorating the masses. joshcryer Jul 2013 #17
As an estranged-Catholic, I hope this trip gives him credibility to enact his reforms in Rome. bklyncowgirl Jul 2013 #20

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
1. lots of things to do and....
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 08:22 AM
Jul 2013

so little time to do it. he`s got maybe 10-15 years left to accomplish his mission

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
2. I doubt his aides are much younger
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 08:26 AM
Jul 2013

and while I greatly dislike the Catholic Church's views on a number of issues , how they have handled the pedophiles among the priests and their past (Crusades, Inquisition), with those caveats, this new Pope seems to be a decent, likable human being.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
3. Something tells me he'd just be happy as clams in mud
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 09:38 AM
Jul 2013

if he outlived the Vatican Bureaucrats by outrunning them all to death lol.

I like this Pope. He kinda gets that he's supposed to be Christ's ambassador to the Poor on this earth, and that means actually going to where the Poor ARE. That means moving around a lot, and the College of Cardinals be damned if they don't like it.

To the spiritual among us (ESPECIALLY those raised in the Catholic Tradition):
When the Spirit moves, it don't fuck around. Shit gets done.

Hekate

(90,779 posts)
10. Yes, yes. And it must feel GOOD to get out of the unholy precincts
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 03:44 PM
Jul 2013

Shoveling out that muck is harder by far than this trip, but he seems determined to do it. More power to His Holiness, and long life to him. I like this man.

When the Spirit moves, it don't fuck around. Shit gets done. <-- This!

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
12. I'm glad you like the word phrasing I used lol.
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 01:56 AM
Jul 2013

When I was young(er) I was fortunate enough to have spent time inside the Charismatic Renewal. What I can say about the expierence is that while it CEMENTED my faith very deeply into the core of my being, it also was responsible for the complete COLLAPSE of almost all need that I previously had for the Institution of the Religion I had been raised with, and I don't think my expierence is unique. The CR in the USA was something that, as soon as The Chruch realized it was something it should try and "direct", something it should have some measure of control over, it nearly up and vanished...like it had planted all the seeds it had needed to within the people that had expierenced it, and when that work was done, it moved on.

This will seem strange to ears that can't hear or eyes that can't see, but when I watched the first protest movements that would come to be called the Arab Spring, I had the wierd and wonderful feeling that I now knew where it had gone when it left, and I was watching it manifest itself in an all-to-familiar way, in a manner that was completely new and vibrant and...On Fire.

It NEVER rests. It's just ALWAYS shaping, manifesting, altering, encouraging, MOVING.

I like that this Pope isn't afraid to let HIMSELF be moved. It's not just a nice change of pace. It's a much-needed example to the rest of us, even if all it does is compel us to WATCH.

Hekate

(90,779 posts)
13. I think that must have been what my late aunt and uncle got involved with
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 02:40 AM
Jul 2013

I really never knew much about it, not because I was too young to remember but because I lived a couple of thousand miles away from them and everything was filtered through my mother's letters.

She disapproved on several counts, I think: 1- Mom was an ex-Catholic, 2- this was non-intellectual, and 3- they went to Spain, where 4- "What they're doing is illegal there. They could be arrested if found out." What they were doing was holding religious meetings in homes.

Since Generalissimo Franco didn't die until 1975 and I was in college until 1971, I think they must have traveled there in the late 1960s.

I always wondered how this form of religious expression came about in the Catholic Church, and what happened to it. You have just filled in a big blank for me.

My own path has gone by another name, but I felt a kinship with my aunt's expression of hers. I think you and I could have a wonderful conversation -- you write so poetically and fervently and joyfully.

Hekate

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
5. That headline made me jump...
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:53 PM
Jul 2013

..even the second time I read it!
I must learn to take in a whole phrase at a time!

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. Don't get me started on headlines, we could be here all day.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 01:29 PM
Jul 2013

At least once a day when I'm catching up with the news, I have to stop and stare for a while to figure out what they meant, or what they are trying to obfuscate, or what happened, or all of that.

LiberalFighter

(51,056 posts)
9. They had to make it seem more than what it is.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 03:16 PM
Jul 2013

In a way if it is examined more closely. It could be suggested that his aides don't have much energy due to a lazy lifestyle.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
15. Yeah, the Curia got used to living like courtiers in Benedict's imperial court.
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 11:10 AM
Jul 2013

They became complacent and lazy. This Pope is of the people, he eschews excess and luxury. He's like a breath of fresh air.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
17. He's done an excellent job reinvigorating the masses.
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 11:57 PM
Jul 2013

Got to keep Latin American attendance up, particularly in Brazil where Catholics have been on the decline.

bklyncowgirl

(7,960 posts)
20. As an estranged-Catholic, I hope this trip gives him credibility to enact his reforms in Rome.
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 06:56 AM
Jul 2013

I've been worried about his safety, frankly. Living in the hostel and dining in the cafeteria are a good idea.

Maybe he intends to wear out the old die-hards in the Curia. I predict massive requests for retirement, which would be a good thing.

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