Virginia Republican: I stand by my attacks on LGBT people as ‘soulless’ and ‘self-destructive’

[Galraedia]

Source: Raw Story

Virginia Attorney General and Republican candidate for governor Ken Cuccinelli said in a debate on Saturday that he stands by his statements that LGBT people have no souls and are inherently “self-destructive.” According to Think Progress, Democratic candidate and former chairperson of the Democratic National Committee Terry McAuliffe repeatedly demanded to know whether Cuccinelli still agrees with his bigoted statements, but the Republican refused to answer until the question was put to him directly by debate moderator Judy Woodruff.

“My personal beliefs about the personal challenges of homosexuality haven’t changed,” he finally said, but promised to create an economic environment favorable to all Virginians. This in spite of the fact that he has adamantly opposed workplace protections for LGBT Virginians.

Cuccinelli has also gained notoriety for his attempts to ban oral and anal sex among all adults in Virginia. He has campaigned volubly against recognition of same sex marriages in the state, opposing all marriage and partnership benefits for same sex couples on the basis that it would be “certain to harm children.”

The GOP gubernatorial hopeful is so prudish, in fact, that he ordered that the Virginia state seal be redesigned so as to cover the bared breast of the Roman Goddess depicted on it.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/20/virginia-republican-i-stand-by-my-attacks-on-lgbt-people-as-soulless-and-self-destructive/

[PDJane]

1. Truthfully, I suppose he has a handle on soulless and self-destructive.

He is obviously both, and none too bright to begin with.

[kardonb]

37. truthfully

what else id new in the repugs "I am crazier than you " contest ?

[PDJane]

38. There is that.....They keep vying for the title.

[Cryptoad]

49. Now that is ....

what I call doubling down on The War of Gay Folk!

geeez.....


Gay Republicans ,,,, hah,,, kinda like the Group Jews for Hitler back in 1942!

[bbernardini]

2. It's like they're TRYING to hand the office over to the Democrats. What are they up to? nt

[Blue_Tires]

4. No con...This is something he really and truly believes...

The VA GOP is counting on another low/indifferent Dem turnout, which is exactly what happened last time...

[freshwest]

15. Exactly.

[theHandpuppet]

77. Yep

Unfortunately, VA Dems tend to stay at home if it's not an election for President. That's how the worst nutters in the GOP managed to take over the state.

[freshwest]

88. I think that liberals or Democrats have seen the success of the system built by FDR and others work

so well for so long, that they took it for granted that it would always be there.

This next election is essential, they must be given all the help we can give them. Perhaps some have not been effected by the dirty tricks since 2010.

Another round like this, and they won't even be allowed to vote in 2016 for POTUS. That's how dangerous these guys are. All the signs point that way.

JMHO.

[MADem]

68. Isn't that a Voter ID Card state? nt

[onehandle]

3. I call for Governor McAuliffe to restore the seal!...

...to the original two bare-chested dudes making out.

[orpupilofnature57]

5. Cotton Mather has got nothing on this guy

http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/mather.htm

[LonePirate]

6. Has VA reached a point where statements like these cost him more votes than he gains with them?

[Nanjing to Seoul]

7. The GOP gubernatorial hopeful is so prudish, in fact, that he ordered that the Virginia state seal

be redesigned so as to cover the bared breast of the Roman Goddess depicted on it.

Taking lessons from John Ash-holes, I mean John Asscroft, I see.

[alp227]

8. #CuckooForCuccinelli n/t

[AAO]

36. OMG - I just saw this . If they're still doing it: DUZY!!!!

[Archae]

9. Don't forget his Lt Gov running mate also...

E. W. Jackson, who was hit with a big family Bible too often as a kid on the head.

http://tinyurl.com/me6hqn4

[Dan de Lyons]

10. Tchaikovsky was soul-less?

Gayness has given the culture its soul.

David had 900 wives and 1300 concubines, but he loved Jonathan more than any of his wives. So it says, I've heard. Did David have a soul?

Did Michelangelo have a soul?

[Tikki]

11. It must just be killing them. They are losing control of the insanity they have been holding....

on to for so long. They believe it defines them. But, it makes them seem so alien now.



Tikki

[BumRushDaShow]

12. He is the 'Todd Aiken' of VA.

[sulphurdunn]

13. Neither being self-destructive

or soulless are crimes in the state of Virginia nor mentioned as exceptions to the state's requirement to treat all of its citizens equally under the 14th Amendment. Someone should mention that to Cucch.

[baldguy]

14. Cuccinelli showing that he's soulless and self-destructive.

[freshwest]

17. Firing up the fundie base. I predict they'll come out in droves for this guy.

[L0oniX]

16. Irony blind. n/t

[SamKnause]

18. Fanatic

I don't care what he believes, or feels.

I stand for equality for all.

I thought America believed in equality for all.

He can take his religious bullshit ideas of a Christian theocracy and shove them where the sun don't shine !!!!

I am so sick of these asshats.

This country is imploding, but idiots like him are worried about who is screwing who, or if someone might be getting a blow job.

[Iliyah]

22. No - Tikki, Gopers (tea nuts) truly believe that they are sane

and the rest are insane. That the rest of us live in a delusional world and they, the tea nuts, live in reality. How can you cope with people like them but to make sure they don't get enough power or none at all.

This guy wants to ban oral sex and re-ban sodomy and I'm pretty sure these people do both in their secret chambers.

[Tikki]

25. I know...I have really never lived in a conservative area. Here, we still shake..

our heads when we run into people who spout off with that stuff.

Tikki

[Zorra]

19. This man obviously has very serious personal issues with understanding his own sexual nature.

He desperately needs psychiatric help, and he should definitely not be holding any public office.

[eggplant]

21. I'm sorry, did you say pubic orifice?

Oh, my bad.

[smirkymonkey]

52. +1000

What a whack job.

[penultimate]

84. I'm thinking the same thing...

[Cha]

20. repubs never fail.. they always accuse others of their own

guilt. After all what do they know better? Ken Cucu has outed his own self as "souless and self-destructive".. as if it weren't apparent enough.

[demgrrrll]

50. If ya spot it ya got it. You are right as rain.

[pangaia]

23. What makes these people so sick?

Their parents? Lack of self-respect, self-hatred for....? Childhood abuse?
Not to divide the country into repubs and demos, but..why are so many people who are on the "right" side, (otherwise known as the wrong side), so mentally and emotionally disturbed?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

26. It's usually fundamentalist christian religion and knee-jerk ultra-patriotism upbringing.

Blind obedience is a form of child abuse when it shuts down reasoning and empathy. The patriotism comes out as platitudes and flag waving and defense contractor pork. It does not extend to actions such as providing decent veterans' benefits.

[theHandpuppet]

78. Conservative Catholic

http://www.catholicherald.com/stories/Ken-Cuccinelli-shaped-by-his-faith,14155
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/12/13/1322311/cuccinelli-church/?mobile=nc

[Botany]

24. keep talking Ken just keep talking and "the math" will crush you.

The repugs can gerrymander districts but not whole states so just like the national
election in 2012 the VA statewide governor's race will come down to math that the
republicans just can't win. women voters will not go repug, GLBT voters will not vote
repug, the young will not vote repug, Hispanics will not vote repug, teachers will not
vote repug, environmentalists will not vote repug, the educated (except for the rich) will note
vote repug, African Americans will not vote repug, the poor will not vote repug, and most
unions will not vote repug .... so that will leave old white men as the base of the VA repug
party and that # is shrinking daily.

BTW as a straight man what the hell is “the personal challenge of homosexuality?”

[blkmusclmachine]

32. We have a mostly inept DEM Party, with little to no resistance from DC, singing bipartisan kumbaya

It's the Centrist way!

[SunSeeker]

74. Good question!

I wish he'd come out of the closet already.

[Politicalboi]

76. “the personal challenge of homosexuality?”

I think it says it all. I think Cootchie should have said "the personal challenge of my homosexuality". I hate it when we find out nuts like these are "our" nuts in hiding. Fred Phelps IMO another one. Having a wife and 13 children still don't make ya straight. It make you miserable. Hence, Fred Phelps.

[stillwaiting]

83. People like him are what make being gay a challenge.

I live in Virginia, and I have had the misfortune of having to deal with many of these people in a professional capacity.

To say I wasn't treated fairly would be a severe understatement. I was given little to no feedback, support, or mentoring from strongly bigoted asshole bosses on several occasions, and I left a couple of jobs because I simply could not deal with the emotional pain I was experiencing at the time.

They are such incredible assholes. Truly Anti-Christ.

[Jamastiene]

86. The personal challenge of homosexuality is

having to deal with assholes like that guy all throughout our lives. I hope your prediction comes true. I live in the south though. Down here, it will take at least a century longer to catch up to the rest of the country. It always does, sadly.

[B Stieg]

92. You're on the front lines.

Please be careful. I haven't been below Norfolk in about 20 years, but it seems real dangerous throughout the south for many Americans these days.

[indepat]

27. I stand by my belief and firm conviction that Ken Cuccinelli is a soulless hate-filled

mfin' bastid.

[freshwest]

28. The entire GOP slate is anti-gay by this article I found at the link:

Virginia Republicans Nominate Rabidly Anti-LGBT Ticket

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/05/20/2034291/virginia-republicans-nominate-rabidly-anti-lgbt-ticket/?mobile=nc

And check the header, O'Reilly, a 'family' group and 'ex-gay' have also come out. The problem is numbers.

The number of LGBT voters is not large enough to vote these people out and Democrats need to ensure that Terry gets the top job there. If not, look at what is coming at that link. This is serious stuff here.

And you can bet Koch dollars are involved, along with all the others who are pushing for a theocracy. What they are doing to minorities, women and the poor in these states supercedes other concerns for me.

[Botany]

33. that is why it not just about the LBGT vote* .... see post 24

The republicans are the minority in many many states and it keeps getting worse
and worse for them ..... that is why "they" have to find why to keep the people from
voting or letting their votes be counted.

LGBT votes + women voters + african americans + union votes + teachers + the youth
vote + ..... and pretty soon you get well past a majority ..... but that is only if you can
get a solid turn out because the old white men and the right wing christians always turn
out.

Ken Cuccinelli's war on women and "the gays" gives our side a huge chunk of votes from
the get go.

[freshwest]

48. Yes, it requires all of us to stick together and turn out. They're gunning for all of us.

Americans and humanity as a whole, since despite all claims or lusts for the Great Collapse, many countries follow our lead.

Fusion politics is the only way we will survive this. We have to put our hearts together and do this for everyone, no matter what differences we have, or the politics used to divide us up to stay home or run away.

The idea that it's 'just those red states' is a suicidal luxury, these guys are in every state. And we know that. Time to put aside old knee jerk reactions.

Some may not remember, but the push for civil rights for all was forged in the South, where people had the most to lose and the necessity to push back. Liberals in some areas have sat back and rested on the victories of the past, but they will lose their pride when they ignore the zealotry of libertarians and baggers.

Defeatism and division will give these guys power over our lives like nothing that has been for decades, after so many deaths and work to get us to a better place. GOTV.

[Mojo Electro]

29. The fact that this guy got elected to anything

shows where the Republican mindset is it. He's is an irrational, hard-core bible banger....

[blkmusclmachine]

30. Keep digging that hole, GOPee

[thelordofhell]

31. Virginia Republicans Caught In Gay Prostitute Sting

Just writing the inevitable headline that will pop up in a year or so...........

[Botany]

34. "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

Ken does seem to have a really keen interest in the mechanics
of gay sex ....... just saying

[AAO]

35. That man would be a psychiatrists dream.

He's got some MAJOR problems.

[TNNurse]

39. The homosexual agenda

was the phrase that caught my eye on Huffington Post.

This was my rant there:

Just what the HELL does he think the "homosexual agenda" is?? I did not know there was one. The only agenda being forced upon the American people is one of narrow minded, bigoted, right wing, sanctimonious, misogynistic, ignorant, pseudo-Christians who have hate in their hearts. Did I leave out any adjectives? They do love big business and war though, don't they?

He does seem obsessed with sodomy....does make one wonder.

[Rebellious Republican]

40. Here are some pics and links from my southern town...

All Eight St Petersburg City Council Members Sign LGBT Pride Month Proclamation

http://www.stpetepride.com/news/all-eight-st-petersburg-city-council-members-sign-lgbt-pride-month-proclamation/

[independentpiney]

57. It was great this year in spite of the weather nt

[Rebellious Republican]

65. I was starting to think this was not an event worth noting!

Thanks independentpiney!

[xfundy]

41. Sounds like somebody has a summer-camp-and-later

secret to hide.

[msanthrope]

46. One time, at band camp.....

[uriel1972]

42. While he may or may not have something to hide...

"Straight" people are just as capable of being rabid homophobe maniacs as any "In-the-closet" person.

[theHandpuppet]

79. +1

Thank you.

[bucolic_frolic]

43. His platform sounds like an Antonin Rant

Apply a Personality Disorder Test

Moral certitude, intolerance, crusader, zealotry

These are identifiable patterns

Paranoia
Narcissism
Obsessive-compulsive

[rightsideout]

44. His campaign is self-destructing

I hope he get loses big time.

[daleo]

45. This guy has a very serious mental problem

I wonder about people like that. What makes them tick?

[louslobbs]

47. My partner and I have been together for 20 years and since Mr. Cuccinelli does not know either

of us, we find it hard to believe that he could know anything about who we are or how we live our lives. We love each other very much and share a wonderful and productive life. My partner has been at his job for 28 yrs and I have been at mine for 26 so we're pretty stable people. We have a home in Los Angeles and a home in Palm Springs, and in both communities, we are pretty well known for our generosity in helping those who are less fortunate than us. We choose not to live in fear, but rather, live to love and share. Although we resent a dirt-bag pig like Mr. Cuccinelli passing judgment on us, or those who are like us without even knowing us, we understand that the man most likely suffers from many varied fears and various religious related phobias. Mr. Cuccinelli is not unlike most Republicans, in that he uses projection, to pass on to others through verbal attacks, that which he is in reality. My partner and I believe that no one is better than us, and that we are no better than any one else, but people like Cuccinelli like to think of themselves as superior to most others who are not like them, when in fact they bigoted, hateful and small minded people. Mr. Cuccinelli practices a form of Christianity that both my partner and I are unfamiliar with, but that many Christians of his ilk seem to practice these days. Although Mr. Cuccinelli has attained a position of power and authority in Virginia, we believe that this man should be nowhere near any position of authority and power, and that the good people of Virginia should come out in droves and vote to keep him from gaining any further control over their state or their lives. And even though my partner and I believe that people should not live their lives in fear, we believe that the good citizens of Virginia, should be very, very afraid of someone like Mr. Cuccinelli and his religious fanaticism, from gaining any further political power in their state, than he has somehow, already managed to attain.
Lou

[freshwest]

53. Great post. Maybe make an OP out of it?

Many people watch this site to learn about the viewpoints of others, especially RWNJs. We never know, it might just cure one of them from being RWNJs.

[louslobbs]

61. Thanks freshwest, your words are greatly appreciated. n/t

Lou

[freshwest]

66. YW. You might want to leave RWNJ out of the OP, though. Just sayin.' LOL.

[treestar]

81. And put a couple paragraph breaks in!

[freshwest]

87. Always a great help. I even put them around run-on sentences I make! I'm very big on paragraphs.

Else the mind tends to get lost in the barrage of words. some things are posted impromptu and not previewed for visual effect.

But his description of everyday life is one that needs to be focused upon, not the RWNJ fantasy, which is warped.

I've also noticed for some years, as some at DU have noted, that these conservatives can't get the thought of anal intercourse out of their minds. They assume it is an essential in 'teh gay agenda.'

How many times a day does that cross most people's minds?

Or how many years or entire lifetimes would it never be discussed, any more than the secret lady parts that know how to shut that rapist sperm down?

It falls into my NOMB and TMI category, otherwise known as File 13, every time. Who has the leisure, nay, the desire to delve into such intimate matters that are not part of their own lives even if they are curious yellow, and make them part of public policy?

RWNJs, that's who. But they might get their wittle feelings hurt if we call them that.

Got any kinder terms for them?

[smirkymonkey]

55. +1000, Thank you!

Thanks for your thoughtful post.

[louslobbs]

62. Thanks smikymonkey, we're just two average people living our lives, paying taxes and

doing our best to leave this world better than we found it. Anyone who sits in judgment of a whole segment of society based on irrational fears and fanatical religious beliefs, should be nowhere near the levers of power in this country, and Cuccinelli fits that bill 100%.

Lou

[grantcart]

90. Wish that you were our neighbors.

[louslobbs]

100. That is very sweet, thank you. We'd be honored to share our community with you as well. n/t

Lou

[sakabatou]

51. Ken, you're talking about yourself: soulless and destructive

[atreides1]

54. The man has to deflect

He is being dragged into the investigation that involves the current governor of Virginia, Bob McDonnell...both of them received gifts from the same business owner...granted the governor got more, but Cuccinelli also received some perks to include buying stock in the company.

And it seems that when Virginia was sued over a tax bill, the attorney general didn't appear to be all that concerned in defending the Commonwealth. Perhaps it may have had to do with his conflict of interest, since Cuccinelli had owned stock in the company and sold it at a profit either right before or soon after the lawsuit was filed.

So, now he's got to deflect all the s**t that will be falling on him from McDonnell..and how best to do that? First he creates a BS site saying that an anti-sodomy law that was struck down by a Federal Appeals Court as being unconstitutional, is meant to protect minors form predators...when it's an archaic law only meant to prevent consenting adults from performing a sexual act...and when that doesn't seem to be working he actually show everyone that he's a hateful bigot.

I guess he thinks this will keep him safe and off the radar!

[blackspade]

56. This guy is a soulless monster.

Just like the bulk of the Rethug party.

[PatrynXX]

58. There is no bible that I know of old or new that says this

so wherever he's reading it from it must be a cult and cults are destructive he might do to join his buddies in scientology

[Blandocyte]

59. Stand by it. That's how we know you're a jackass

Fine. The voters will gather all the info they need. Good job Cuccinelli.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

60. He may be one of those guys who looks at 'those' sites on his computer

I suggest the authorities seize his computer! Most of these 'bigots' are generally criminals.

[yardwork]

63. As a lesbian, this makes me laugh.

We must be doing something right.

[Botany]

72. Can you help me?

As a straight man what the hell is “the personal challenge of homosexuality?”
I have had gay and lesbian neighbors and friends for years and I have
never noticed any personality challenges. Me thinks Ken Cuccineli has more
than just a few sexual hang ups and or lustful urges.



I mean he covered up an exposed breast on the VA state seal .... the man has issues.

[yardwork]

80. Your guess is as good as mine!

He sounds like a lunatic. He appears to have serious mental health issues, er, challenges.

[AverageJoe90]

64. Oh, the irony.

Hey Governor Douchinelli! Wanna see who's really "soul-less" and self-destructive? Look in the mirror, asswipe.....

[Sunlei]

67. republican eugenic speak and religious fanatic all rolled into one political spitball.

Cuccinelli should be so proud he and his party 'values' inspired people like hitler and currently inspire the killings of gays in other countries. Yeah, the devil still walks the earth thanks to his workers like Cuccinelli.

[Nanjing to Seoul]

69. So, Virginians, how many mouth breathing, sheet wearing assholes will vote for this punk?

And does this assclown have a chance of winning?

Sorry for using, but this asshat is worthless and stupid.

[Dreamer Tatum]

70. Go to hell, bastard nt

[complain jane]

71. Is there a website

where you can bet on which "Family Values" "Anti-Gay" Republican is going to get caught next with his hand in the cookie jar? Sort of like a dead pool but with these idiots.

[hughee99]

73. I can understand why he'd say this, given that the only gay people he probably knows

are log cabin republicans. Where he goes wrong is assuming they're ‘soulless’ and ‘self-destructive’ because of their homosexuality, when it's really because they're republicans. Of course, I don't believe that people are soulless and self-destructive because they're republicans, I think people become republicans because they're soulless and self-destructive.

[City Lights]

82. Soulless and self-destructive are words I'd use to describe republicans. nt

[B Stieg]

85. Keep blabbing Coochie! November is coming...

...and then you'll really learn what "self-destruction" is!

Enjoy your future stint on Fox.

[Jamastiene]

89. All a Democrat running against him has to do is mention that he wants to ban oral sex.

That should be an instant win. I cannot imagine a majority in any state, whether it is a state in the north, south, east or west, who would vote for a candidate who wants to ban oral sex.

Naturally, his anti-gay stance is more lies and bullshit. That is all those types seem to spew.

The "personal challenge of homosexuality" is having to go through life dealing with mindless bigots like this Cuccinelli asshole.

[MrScorpio]

91. What little fiery ball of hate this one is... nt

[distantearlywarning]

93. This guy is going to be the next congresscritter caught making overtures in a men's airport restroom

Mark my words.

Nobody gets that worked up about this shit unless they're desperately trying to deny and hide something they feel is shameful about themselves.

[Jack Rabbit]

94. What a disgusting thing to say, especially from a Christian

I'm not a Christian and don't want to sound like I have any business telling Mr. Cuccinelli or any other Christian what to believe, but really, gays don't have souls? That is the worst thing a Christian can say about another human being. In fact, he is denying that gays are part of humanity.

Even heretics, pagans, Muslims and Jews have souls. Even the Spanish Inquisition acknowledged that much. When a heretic or pagan (i.e., witch) cried out while burning at the stake, that was believed to be his soul escaping the body and flying upwards to salvation. Not only did the unfortunate person have a soul, but it was purified by the fire and thus the soul was saved for Christ. If the condemned witch didn't cry out, then it assumed the devil already had that person's soul and it was too late to do anything beneficial for the poor victim of the dark age/medieval/early Renaissance criminal justice system, anyway.

Vampires, on the other hand, have no souls. That is why a vampire casts no image in a mirror. I'm not exactly what they have that animates them (animate, meaning to move, from the Latin anima, meaning soul). Thus, by asserting that gay people no souls, Cuccinelli is removing homosexuals from humanity and reclassifying them something akin to a demonic ghost that sucks blood. Cuccinelli has demonstrated elsewhere recently that he has a problem with people who suck, and not the way Cuccinelli himself sucks.

Vampires, on the other hand, are not like homosexuals in that vampires exist only in myth, legend and lore while homosexuals, in spite of Mr. Cuccinelli's assertions to the contrary, are real people. If a gay person has no soul, then neither does any other human being, including Ken Cuccinelli.

However, if a Christian is one who at least professes to believe that every human being has a soul that can be saved through Jesus Chrirst, then Mr. Cuccinelli's statement means he doesn't believe homosexuals are human. Should we thus conclude that Mr. Cuccinelli is not a Christian, but is as best some sort of Christian heretic who, on a self-confessed principle, is incapable of loving his neighbor as himself, as least if his neighbor is gay.

To assert that another person has no soul is, coming from a devout Christian, a very hateful and disgusting thing to say.

[Nye Bevan]

96. Just voted to hide this, for obvious reasons.

I hope the rest of the jury concurs.

[In_The_Wind]

97. It seems as if they did.

[dusty trails]

98. Ironically

"have no souls and are inherently “self-destructive” is how I think of Republicans.

[uriel1972]

99. I can just see the protests....

"What do we want?"
"Oral Sex!"
"When do we want it?"
"Now!"