Greenwald: 'Explosive' NSA Spying Reports Are Imminent

[think]

Source: Spiegel.de

July 19, 2013 – 12:17 PM

Journalist Glenn Greenwald says he feels threatened and criminalized by some American politicians and journalists.

Journalist Glenn Greenwald says new reports from the trove of NSA data supplied by whistleblower Edward Snowden can be expected in the next few days. Speaking on a German talkshow, he said they would be even "more explosive in Germany" than previous reporting.

Are new revelations from the NSA data trove going to drop in the next few days? Speaking on a political talk show on German public broadcaster ARD on Thursday night, Glenn Greenwald said he expected stories to appear in the coming days that would be even "more explosive" in Germany than reports previously published about cooperation between the National Security Agency and German intelligence authorities.

Greenwald is the journalist who broke the original story about former NSA contractor and whistleblower Edward Snowden's data trove, revealing how the intelligence agency taps tech giants' user data to facilitate its mass-scale surveillance. Since then, additional reporting on the documents by SPIEGEL has exposed how the American intelligence agency spies on both the European Union and a half-billion communications connections in Germany each month. The reports sparked a massive political debate in Germany over how much the German government knew about the spying -- an egregious violation of the country's privacy laws -- and whether it was actively cooperating with the Americans.

He told host Reinhold Beckmann that he and journalist Laura Poitras had obtained full sets of the documents during a trip to Hong Kong, with around 9,000 to 10,000 top secret documents in total. Greenwald said they had been in possession of the data for around seven weeks and had not had a chance to analyze all the material, noting that some of the documents were extremely complicated. "We're working on it," he said...

Read more: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/journalist-says-explosive-reports-coming-from-snowden-data-a-912034.html

[jtuck004]

1. Oh, please. We already have Bernanke at the Fed keeping 50 millilon people in poverty.

This isn't likely to make it worse.

[on point]

2. Delusional nonsense. Repukes keeping people in poverty. He is the only one helping

Besides obvious off topic snipe you are factually wrong. Only fed easing has helped the economy while the repukes try to kill the economy at every turn

[jtuck004]

11. It ain't helping the 50 million people in poverty, whose numbers have increased since 2008.

It's not helping the 50 or so million on food stamps.
It's not helping the 5 million or so families that have been jerked out of their homes in foreclosure after the banks criminal activities.

The $85 billion he is paying out is, however, helping the banks, who are more profitable than they have been in years.
It is helping the rich, who are extracting more rent from assets and people than they have in years.

Hitler did a better job for the German economy than Bernanke is doing for this one. Then again, at least that genocidal son-of-a-bitch spent money on working people, not those who only shower in the morning.

Are you Mi$$ RobMe, or just a member of his fan club? Because that is EXACTLY what he and his sorry-ass ilk argue.

[phleshdef]

28. Holy shit, when you have to praise Hitler to trash someone...

Seriously nutty stuff right here folks.

[jtuck004]

35. And when one ignores 50 million hungry people with not enough jobs while

the money that could make a difference in their lives is paid to greedy bankers, just so one can make a stupid point on a bulletin board, it's not crazy.

It's just pathetic and mean.

I'd rather be "nutty".

[JDPriestly]

40. We need to tax imports. That was Alexander Hamilton's idea, and we need it now more than ever.

[jtuck004]

45. Absolutely. And instead of paying the money to banks invest in people who have to work

to make a living. For a change.

[hughee99]

49. Ah, the old "This has no relevance to an issue I'm interested it" response.

Good stuff!

[Quantess]

70. For instance, animal rights activists will probably be disappointed

when the leaks fail to relate to lab testing on chimpanzees. So there's really no point.

[OilemFirchen]

3. So by "more explosive"

are we talking sparkler explosive or glow worm explosive?

And by "the coming days" does he mean, like, at some random point in the future or the actual end times?

[kardonb]

10. greenwald

journalist ? He can only be described that if he "writes" for tabloids .

[Leolo]

4. Courage: A Tribute to Whistleblowers

Ten Minute short film featuring some of America's great whistleblowers, including Serpico, Elsberg, Manning, Edmonds, Agee and others:

https://vimeo.com/69928836

[railsback]

51. Putting Manning in there as a 'great whistleblower'

reminds me of when the Republicans were trying to carve Reagan's mug into Mt. Rushmore.

I'll pass.

[sabrina 1]

56. Manning will go down in history as one of the great whistle blowers. He blew the whistle on Bush

war crimes and the whole sorry mess he created. It always amuses me to see Democrats, supposedly, defending Bush from Manning. Is it that they have no clue what he released because I know with absolute certainty that if the timing of the leaks had been in 2007, he would have been the 'left's' biggest hero. I guess they think what he released was more current than it actually was, that is the only explanation for any Democrat not to be supportive of Manning.

[railsback]

58. Like Reagan will go down as a great President

Embellishments aside, what they did was wrong.

[Hissyspit]

66. You have nothing but insults, don't you?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023377842

[Mojorabbit]

5. He is masterful so far at keeping this in the news cycles. nt

[Hissyspit]

63. Good for him:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023378381

[Mojorabbit]

68. Thanks! nt

[DeSwiss]

6. K&R

[SoapBox]

7. What's the matter GLENN, been out of the spotlight too long?

Yawn.

This clown bores me.

What is your solution Mr. Beck, eh Greenwald, if you don't want any observation or monitoring for TERRORISTS?

*crickets*

...thought so.

[Hissyspit]

8. Wow, one false equivalence and one false dichotomy in one post.

Actually Greenwald has discussed how to handle these things in his column over the years, not that:

1. He has to,

or

2. You would realize that.

[NealK]

14. +1

Well said.

[Enthusiast]

38. +2

Yes

[totodeinhere]

13. He has never said that he disapproved of monitoring terrorists. Where did you get that

from?

[Le Taz Hot]

30. You equate Glenn Beck with Glenn Greenwald?

That's some sick shit there.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

59. He bores you just enough for you to respond, eh?

Since you're so disengaged, you may not wish to answer, but praytell, since when has it been the job of journalists to come up with answers to problems rather than just reporting on them? Hint: IRS a trick question, a trap. You'll not be able to come up with a satisfactory answer. Best to just let this go, ego permitting. Or you can engage. Waiting.

[Laelth]

9. k&r for exposure. n/t

-Laelth

[davidpdx]

12. He feels threatened and criminalized?

This coming from the person who has been saying everyday that he's going to release "explosive new information".

[JDPriestly]

41. He is carefully vetting the information as Snowden requested that he do.

He is trying to make sure there is no information released that would help criminals or terrorists. I applaud what he is doing. It contributes to that conversation that Obama said he welcomed (or something to that effect).

[davidpdx]

42. I hope you are right

But then again how can he know for sure. The only thing I can think of is he's consulting some ex-military people for expertise.

[WillyT]

15. K & R !!!

[jazzimov]

16. He keeps saying that

and then he releases docs that only confirm what everyone already knew.

*Yawn*

[sheshe2]

18. Oh he is such a drama queen, jazzimov~

[HumansAndResources]

33. Who is "Everybody" - "Knew" and "Suspected" are not the same.

Most people did not have a clue about the NSA, other than perhaps a reference from the film "Enemy of the State", which showcases their 1970's level of technology / tracking. Now, thanks to Mr. Snowden and Mr. Greenwald, millions more Americans know the degree of criminality in which "their" (sic) government engages. If they knew more history, this would not have been a question in the first place, but they went to "public" schools designed by Rockefeller's General Education Board, with specifications to create "workers not thinkers" and to present a stilted-view of pseudo-history where the "trusts" control of state was a late 19th century phenomenon long past ... but I digress.

Many of us had strong suspicions - even a belief based on historical context - that the US Govt was engaging in this level of spying. We even had some whistleblowers revealing non-classified bits to fill in the picture. But thanks to Mr. Snowden and Mr. Greenwald, we now have DOCUMENTS to PROVE what we suspected. The next step should be trials for all persons - in public and private employ - who violated our civil rights. Unfortunately, that step would require a "government of, by, and for the people" - not a "government of, by, and for the Transnational Corporations.

The good news is, many on all fake-partisan-sides have shown their hand in this case. We now know, specifically, who NOT to vote for in the next election. Those trying to cover up their part in this criminal activity are screaming "traitor" - so vote them out, then put them on trial. Imagine Pelosi and Graham as co-defendants; that would be a good start.

[Politicub]

17. This is turning into the boy who cried wolf

Yes, there have been some interesting revelations. But the teasers about the next batch of documents being the most explosive ever on the planet until the next batch which will be extra super duper earth shattering 2.0.

Actually, the opposite has been true. While the disclosure of Prism was quelle surprise, everything else has been kind of a dud or an offshoot of the original disclosure.

Is Greenwald overplaying his hand? I think he did that weeks ago.

And poor Snowden seems like the punchline of a bad joke with the ongoing pleas for asylum.

[elehhhhna]

26. trump-like touting with extra hyperbole

put up or shut up.

Did Woodward & Bernstein go all over the media saying "wait! YOU WON'T BEEEELEEEEEEEVE OUR big fat SCOOP!!!!" For weeks on END?

[Hissyspit]

64. This is it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023378381

[Politicub]

71. Thanks for the flag

I read the post and I'm trying to figure out what's different or new. Is it the interface for queries?

It's a serious question. No disrespect intended.

The system should be reformed and the Patriot Act repealed. No doubt. But there are other issues I care deeply about, too, and it's the voter apathy that some on DU push in tandem with this issue that won't change anything. If it results in helping the GOP, then imagine what's happening in NC being fortified with the NSA security apparatus. I count that as a lot worse.

Not you, hissyspit, but I know you see this agenda being pushed here, too.

[struggle4progress]

19. Greenwald: More NSA disclosures to come (2 July)

http://thehill.com/video/in-the-news/308859-greenwald-more-nsa-disclosures-to-come

[struggle4progress]

20. Glenn Greenwald: We're not finished (9 July)

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/07/glenn-greenwald-were-not-finished-167857.html

[struggle4progress]

21. US Journalist: Snowden Greatest Threat to US in Nation's History (14 July)

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/169895

[struggle4progress]

22. More US spy revelations promised in journalist's book (18 July)

http://voicerussia.com/2013_07_18/More-US-spy-revelations-promised-in-journalists-book/

[struggle4progress]

23. Journalist warns of 'explosive' news from cache Snowden leaked (19 July)

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/07/19/Kerry-said-to-give-stern-warning-to-Caracas-on-Snowden/UPI-82681374213600/

[UTUSN]

46. R#51 & K. Keeping track can be a career!1 n/t

[blkmusclmachine]

24. .

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[fascisthunter]

25. OMG... where's the Nonsense?!

[OnyxCollie]

27. Water cooler? Cigarette Break? Shift change?

[Enthusiast]

39. Shift change...

[NealK]

44. ROFLMAO!

[Le Taz Hot]

31. The Nonsense?

Oh, I LIKE that!

[Jamastiene]

47. Blue Link hunting n/t

[madrchsod]

29. poor old snowden....

while greenwald steals his story poor old snowden is stuck in putin`s shit hole of a country with no way to escape.

[HumansAndResources]

34. Russians are Living Better than Ever

Go to Asia and see the Russians on vacation everywhere - taking vacations that Americans can't afford anymore. Then tell me which nation better meets that definition.

Yes, Americans have more "freedom of speech" - yet we increasingly slide further into poverty by the year, none the less. If that trend were to reverse, you will watch as the Transnationals order "our" (sic) politicians to begin enforcing those provisions of the NDAA that lie in wait for a 'crisis' - like "hold forever without charge."

The laws on the books, passed by Congress and signed by the president, make Russian legal system look "free and just" by comparison - and our "freedom of speech" will only hold unless and until it gets in the way of "our" (sic) rulers - as history makes clear.

Oh, and it was the revocation of his passport - by the USA - to circumvent his right to seek asylum - which got him 'stuck' in that airport, living better than many hard-working Americans living in their trailers and cars - though far less luxuriously than he lived on the taxpayer's dime helping the government spy on on us, on behalf of the Transnational Corporations whose "interests" they serve.

[leftynyc]

53. Russia is just peachy

as long as you're not LGBT:

snip
Bad news for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) travelers hoping to visit Russia, as foreign tourists will now be subjected to the same "gay propaganda" fines and sentences as residents.

Travel site Skift reports that the new law, signed into law by Russian President Vladimir Putin on June 30, contains a provision that allows the government to arrest and detain gay (or "pro-gay&quot foreigners for up to 14 days before they would then be expelled from Russia.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/11/russia-gay-law-tourists-_n_3581217.html

[Hissyspit]

67. "Steals his story?"

He gave it to him.

[MotherPetrie]

32. K&R

[limpyhobbler]

36. ooh goodie, I love explosive NSA spying reports.

[Riftaxe]

37. "Bring 'em on"

To quote a lesser man. Surely the current and previous administrations have nothing to fear from a little sunlight, and so far they have not named names just programs and collection paradigms.

If it means they need to change on how they snoop on old aunt Ita's phone calls...boo freaking hoo.

[carolinayellowdog]

43. note that "explosive" in the header is qualified by "in Germany" in the article

With US law so fungible and secret, whether NSA activities are illegal or not is subject to endless argument. But I think German laws are clearcut that the things their government has collaborated with are illegal. Hence any such revelations have more "explosive" potential than in other countries?

Just speculating about why GG's language is especially hyperbolic about Germany.

[wordpix]

48. I hope they're spying on Koch Bros, Issa, & other repukes making loads of $ while dragging

US down & hiding their $ offshore.

Unfortunately, I doubt we'll get the good stuff.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

50. If he REALLY wanted to expose an invasion of privacy....

....he would report on Windows 8.

I installed it on a friend's computer and in the "maps" section it asked if we wanted to use our current location. We thought, "sure, why not" figuring it would be the city.

IT PINPOINTED THE HOUSE.

Think about that.

An OS that connects all of your online activity to your email, IP and physical location in real time.

We are supposed to just TRUST that they aren't monitoring.

(Glad I use Linux)

[railsback]

52. Glenn 'I Feel Threatened' Greenwald, the Victim

He probably actually thought he would be immortalized with all this rehashing. LoL. Now the CIA is messing around with his brakes..

[KinMd]

54. Anyone remeber Lenny and Squigy? "I'll see it when I belive it"

[BREMPRO]

55. ..still waiting.....

sounds more like a fissile than an explosion...

[Politicub]

57. Greenwald is starting to sound a little like Issa and the IRS "scandal"

With some Geraldo mixed in for good measure.

[think]

62. I like eggs with my spam

can you take them over easy?

[Hissyspit]

65. Or not:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023378381

[think]

60. I think the super heroes in the end

will love the people they really care about and spread that belief to the end or the beginning....

(Free form)

Some people would fill the world with silly love songs....

What's wrong with that?

I'd love to know....

I love you......

It isn't easy. It isn't easy at all....

[think]

61. Do we really ever get to the point or do we just juxtapose?

http://www.yourdictionary.com/juxtapose

[Scurrilous]

69. Explosive?

Must be something in the water.

[Zoeisright]

72. Wow, that "explosion" is really really slow.

It's been almost two weeks!

[David Krout]

73. xKeyscore was explosive news

For NSA defenders, not so much.