Alleged Suicide Bomber Arrested in D.C.
Alleged Suicide Bomber Arrested in D.C.
FBI undercover officers were dealing with suspect
Friday, Feb 17, 2012 | Updated 1:39 PM ESTView Comments (7) | Email | Print
The FBI has arrested a man who thought he was going to carry out a bombing attack in Washington, but was in fact dealing with FBI undercover operatives all along, according to NBC News.
The man, said by law enforcement officials to be from Morocco and in his early 30s, was arrested Friday morning after he put on what he thought was a vest containing explosives. In fact, it had inert material that was not explosive, according to NBC News.
Agents are now conducting searches. They have not yet released the man's name while they do further investigating, but they say at this point they believe he was acting alone.
He wanted to try to set off a bomb near the U.S. Capitol building, investigators say.
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http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Alleged-Suicide-Bomber-Arrested-in-DC-139527143.html
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Renew Deal
(81,883 posts)That way ------------>
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)The man had been under investigation for about a year, according to a counterterrorism official and a law enforcement official, both speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. He had overstayed his visitor visa for years, the officials said. The FBI provided him with an inoperable gun and inert explosives, the counterterrorism official said.
The man changed his mind about his intended target several times but ultimately decided on the Capitol after canvassing the area a couple of times, the law enforcement official said. The man is not believed to be associated with al-Qaida.
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/02/17/national/w104708S61.DTL
Law inforcement works. We didn't need to bomb Morocco to get this guy.
ArtiChoke
(61 posts)truth2power
(8,219 posts)One could say he didn't act alone, i.e., he has accomplices.
OR
He didn't act alone, i.e. the FBI aided and abetted.
I pick number 2.
In that regard, I hear the underwear bomber was sentenced yesterday. Where is the well-dressed man who assisted him in getting through customs in Amsterdam? Hmmmm?
Went down a rat hole, didn't it?
ArtiChoke
(61 posts)Bingo! The FBI tracks these people down, approaches them, puts the idea in their mind (over months of coercive persuasion) and supplies the 'bomb' or 'missile parts' or what-have-you. Then they clamp the cuffs on and ship the guy to some federal prison and pat themselves on the back while alerting the media. This 'war on terrorism' is worse than the 'drug war'. It is a hoax.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)chimpymustgo
(12,774 posts)nt
golfguru
(4,987 posts)I do not believe for a minute president Obama would let this go on if it was
indeed a hoax.
DUIC
(167 posts)Interesting that the demographics of terrorists is shifting towards older men and we are now seeing the inclusion of more women in terrorist activities.
FedUp_Queer
(975 posts)saras
(6,670 posts)I fully expect it to come out in a few months, after the right has got their political mileage from the article, that it is ANOTHER mentally retarded guy that they harangued for years to finally talk into doing something.
But by then, DU won't care either.
truth2power
(8,219 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)there really are a certain number of folks out there capable of doing something like this for their own reasons. It is entirely possible you know that the arrest was legit. But most likely you are right that it is probably a set-up. As someone mentioned above, I'm waiting to hear the Iranian connection.
DUIC
(167 posts)conviction after conviction, jihadi wannabes are sent to US prisons for various attempted acts of terrorism. Remember the Brooklyn 5? Remember Richard Reid? Remember John Walkher Lindh?
I fully expect that in a couple of months, when this guy is convicted, that there will be another few arrests that will equally be derided as some sort of vast right wing conspiracy.
But, but then, DU will not care either.
originalpckelly
(24,382 posts)and tomorrow and the day after and it won't be due to terrorism.
It's just that it gets our attention while not being a true threat most of the time.
DUIC
(167 posts)Is that the gist of your argument?
htuttle
(23,738 posts)How so? He was fighting in a war on the wrong side (though from all accounts, it was closer to 'standing there with gun' than actually fighting, for his part).
How does fighting in a war equate to terrorism? We didn't charge all the Iraqi's and Afghani's whom we fought overseas as 'terrorists'. They were called POW's, not terrorists, if they were captured.
Lindh was sucked in by the Taliban, yes. But, given that, he went to Afghanistan to fight the Northern Alliance. The Taliban were the government, the N.A. the rebels. A few months after he went to Afghanistan, our State Dept. still saw the Taliban as potential allies in the War on [some] Drugs and gave them $43,000,000 in aid! (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3618895).
So, if Lindh was incarcerated simply for taking up a rifle against them, why wasn't Colin Powell also incarcerated after he provided them with the $43 million?
stockholmer
(3,751 posts)ops that the agencies themselves started, funded, and oversaw.
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2012/02/washington-dc-fbi-foils-own-terror-plot.html
Washington DC: FBI Foils Own Terror Plot (Again)
February 18. 2012 - The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has once again proven that the only thing Americans need fear, is their own government, with the latest "terror attack" foiled being one entirely of their own design. USA Today reports http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/02/nbc-fbi-nabs-suspect-in-alleged-bomb-plot-on-us-capitol/1#.Tz6tk1HtIhU that a suspect had been arrested by the FBI who was "en route to the U.S. Capitol allegedly to detonate a suicide bomb." While initial reports portrayed the incident as a narrowly averted terrorist attack, CBS would report that a "high ranking source told CBS News the man was "never a real threat."" The explosives the would-be bomber carried were provided to him by the FBI during what they described as a "lengthy and extensive operation." The only contact the suspect had with "Al Qaeda" was with FBI officials posing as associates of the elusive, omnipresent, bearded terror conglomerate. The FBI, much like their MI5 counterparts in England, have a propensity for recruiting likely candidates from mosques they covertly run.
This is but the latest in a string of national terror plots carried out from start to finish by the FBI, who has made a business of approaching likely candidates and grooming them to carry out terror attacks. In September 2011, another FBI terror operation targeting the Capitol was "foiled," http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/09/boston-fbi-thwarts-own-rc-bomb.html involving a patsy who believed he was to take part in an assault that would involve multiple gunmen and even a drone bomber provided to him by the FBI. And perhaps the most dubious of all, was the December 2010 Portland "Christmas Tree Bomber," http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2010/12/problem-reaction-solution.html who was also approached by the FBI, provided demolition training, including a demonstration with live explosives performed in a Lincoln County park, and a van within which the patsy believed his handlers had provided him a bomb. The van with the inert device was parked next to a crowded Christmas tree lighting ceremony where the patsy attempted to detonate it remotely before being arrested by FBI agents.
It would later turn out that Portland had heroically withdrew from the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force, (JTTF), with the operation then being carried out behind Portland Mayor Sam Adam's back only for its conclusion to humiliatingly catch the mayor off guard. The city of Portland would eventually rejoin the JTTF after the fallout from the FBI's own terror plot. The FBI is carrying out what is essentially a campaign of entrapment fueling what alternative news outlet Media Monarchy appropriately calls "terronoia." http://mediamonarchy.blogspot.com/2010/11/portland-tree-bomber-plot-brings.html And while it is true that these incidents are being used to foment a climate of fear to justify the ongoing "War on Terror," http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/09/war-on-terror-is-fraud.html there is a more sinister implication readers must be aware of.
In 1993 the FBI was carrying out an identical "sting operation" in New York City. The target was the World Trade Center, the weapon of choice would be a bomb-laden van, that like the above mentioned attacks, was supposed to contain an inert device. Helping the FBI was an Egyptian informant, Emad Salem, who over the course of the investigation grew suspicious of the federal agents and began recording his phone conversations with them. From these recordings released by the New York Times, http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/28/nyregion/tapes-depict-proposal-to-thwart-bomb-used-in-trade-center-blast.html it turns out that the FBI switched out the inert device for real explosives at the last moment resulting in an attack that killed 6 and injured over a thousand. Despite this evidence, the 1993 bombing is still to this day attributed to "terrorists" with the FBI's involvement muted if ever mentioned.
The implications are of course, with the FBI's current nationwide stable of patsies being trained, directed, and provided material support to carry out attacks the FBI then "foils," is at any given moment, any one of these operations can be switched "live" just as in 1993. The resulting carnage can then be used to manipulate public opinion just as it was in 1993, 2001, on 7/7 in London, and in Madrid, Spain in 2004. The risk rises exponentially now with Israel being confirmed http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099142/Mossad-training-terrorists-kill-Irans-nuclear-scientists-U-S-officials-claim--Israels-real-target-Obama.html to be training, arming, and directing US State Department-listed terrorist organization, http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/65479.pdf the People's Mujahedin of Iran, also known as Mujahedeen e-Khalq (MEK). The US has also played an extensive role http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2012/02/us-implausibly-denies-role-in-israeli.html in supporting MEK who is currently carrying out a campaign of terror inside of Iran.
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This is part of a plot by the US indicated in its own policy papers, openly conspiring to provoke a war with Iran. This is best encapsulated in this often cited quote from US policy think-tank, Brookings Institution:
"...it would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be. Of course, it would be very difficult for the United States to goad Iran into such a provocation without the rest of the world recognizing this game, which would then undermine it. (One method that would have some possibility of success would be to ratchet up covert regime change efforts in the hope that Tehran would retaliate overtly, or even semi-overtly, which could then be portrayed as an unprovoked act of Iranian aggression.) "
-Brookings Institution's 2009 "Which Path to Persia?" report, pages 84-85. http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/files/rc/papers/2009/06_iran_strategy/06_iran_strategy.pdf
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DUIC
(167 posts)When you hear hoofbeats, look for horses not zebras.
stockholmer
(3,751 posts)DUIC
(167 posts)In all likelihood, this defendant will be sharing a cell with the Brooklyn 5 or some other prison. Pretending he did not do it, or there is some evil vast right-wing conspiracy that tricks people into donning suicide belts is disingenous. He put on the belt and went to play in traffic.
stockholmer
(3,751 posts)form of systemic control. As for your 'Brooklyn 5', are you referring to the Lackawanna 6, the Fort Dix 6, the 4 from the Bronx Riverside Temple, or the 4 Guyanese who were charged with plotting against the JFK airport? Hard to tell what you are talking about without the specific incident.
Each one of these groups has a similar tale of FBI/DHS involvement. Many of the members were borderline mentally incompetent as well.
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Fake terror plots, paid informants: the tactics of FBI 'entrapment' questioned
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/16/fbi-entrapment-fake-terror-plots
David Williams did not have an easy life. He moved to Newburgh, a gritty, impoverished town on the banks of the Hudson an hour or so north of New York, at just 10 years old. For a young, black American boy with a father in jail, trouble was everywhere. Williams also made bad choices. He ended up going to jail for dealing drugs. When he came out in 2007 he tried to go straight, but money was tight and his brother, Lord, needed cash for a liver transplant. Life is hard in Newburgh if you are poor, have a drug rap and need cash quickly. His aunt, Alicia McWilliams, was honest about the tough streets her nephew was dealing with. "Newburgh is a hard place," she said. So it was perhaps no surprise that in May, 2009, David Williams was arrested again and hit with a 25-year jail sentence. But it was not for drugs offences. Or any other common crime. Instead Williams and three other struggling local men beset by drug, criminal and mental health issues were convicted of an Islamic terrorist plot to blow up Jewish synagogues and shoot down military jets with missiles.
Even more shocking was that the organisation, money, weapons and motivation for this plot did not come from real Islamic terrorists. It came from the FBI, and an informant paid to pose as a terrorist mastermind paying big bucks for help in carrying out an attack. For McWilliams, her own government had actually cajoled and paid her beloved nephew into being a terrorist, created a fake plot and then jailed him for it. "I feel like I am in the Twilight Zone," she told the Guardian.
Lawyers for the so-called Newburgh Four have now launched an appeal that will be held early next year. Advocates hope the case offers the best chance of exposing the issue of FBI "entrapment" in terror cases. "We have as close to a legal entrapment case as I have ever seen," said Susanne Brody, who represents another Newburgh defendant, Onta Williams. Some experts agree. "The target, the motive, the ideology and the plot were all led by the FBI," said Karen Greenberg, a law professor at Fordham University in New York, who specialises in studying the new FBI tactics.
But the issue is one that stretches far beyond Newburgh. Critics say the FBI is running a sting operation across America, targeting to a large extent the Muslim community by luring people into fake terror plots. FBI bureaux send informants to trawl through Muslim communities, hang out in mosques and community centres, and talk of radical Islam in order to identify possible targets sympathetic to such ideals. Or they will respond to the most bizarre of tip-offs, including, in one case, a man who claimed to have seen terror chief Ayman al-Zawahiri living in northern California in the late 1990s. That tipster was quickly hired as a well-paid informant. If suitable suspects are identified, FBI agents then run a sting, often creating a fake terror plot in which it helps supply weapons and targets. Then, dramatic arrests are made, press conferences held and lengthy convictions secured. But what is not clear is if many real, actual terrorists are involved.
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stockholmer
(3,751 posts)The official says the suspect was the target of an undercover investigation for about two months and that the public was never in any danger.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/02/nbc-fbi-nabs-suspect-in-alleged-bomb-plot-on-us-capitol/1#.Tz6pScqpM5I
Wonder when the mouth-breathers, neo-cons, AIPAC'ers, etc will try to link this moran with IRAN.
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truth2power This message was self-deleted by its author.
greiner3
(5,214 posts)And why wouldn't this asshat be Tombstoned???????????????
truth2power
(8,219 posts)Yes, I know. the line goes straight to the top. I deleted my post because I hit 'post' instead of 'preview' before I finished writing my response to the OP.
truth2power
(8,219 posts)Some guy from Morocco decides he wants to bomb a Jewish synagogue, or maybe a military facility, or an Army general, or a restaurant or....here's the ticket....blow himself up in a crowd of people at the Capitol Building.
Then he meets an FBI agent claiming to be a member of some extremist group, who eventually drives him to the selected attack site and gives him a fake bomb vest and a fake MAC-10 automatic weapon and says 'See ya'. Shortly thereafter, he was arrested.
Questions that beg to be asked:
What was this guy's grievance, specifically? Seems like he couldn't decide if he hated Jews, members of the military, or people who eat in restaurants. You know, at least those nutcases who kill abortion doctors know who they hate. I'd say if you're willing to die, it should be for an important cause.
What part of this operation did the FBI NOT do for him? Seems like he was a minor player, overall.
OK, I had to Google "MAC-10" image. That's a fairly large weapon. Did he think he could carry that to the Capitol area and expect to live long enough to blow himself up? Did he even check it out before he set out on his mission? If his lawyer is smart he'll hand this guy a MAC-10 and see if he knows how to operate it. My guess would be, not.
None of this makes sense to me. I think it's just a make-work program for the FBI.
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Note: My self-delete in the post above is because I inadvertantly clicked on 'post' instead of 'preview' while I was writing this.
golfguru
(4,987 posts)from peace loving Muslims to denigrate the terror attempt.
tech_smythe
(190 posts)aside from sounding like a buffoon?
this was clearly the work of one nutter egged on by the FBI nothing more.
what exactly are you attempting to get at?
golfguru
(4,987 posts)just within last 24 months in the US. Yeah I know they are all isolated nutbags.
tech_smythe
(190 posts)I'm not saying there aren't threats to the country.
I'm questioning your rather racist slant
golfguru
(4,987 posts)there are white muslims in formerly USSR countries, there are oriental muslims in
Indonesia, there are negro muslims in Africa, there are Arab muslims, and Iranian
muslims have Caucasian roots. You are injecting race, not me.
da_decider
(104 posts)He was armed by undercover agents and encouraged to attack Capital Building.
Here is my question: how many rednecks can you arrest for attempted murder if you send your undercover agents to rural Oklahoma and give them fake intelligence about Obama whereabouts at a certain time?
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)it has enough problems on its own, let alone having things gummed up by a real or fake terrorist attempt.
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)so this is what they do now, since they can't find anymore terrorist, they manufacture
terrorist and then celebrate for a job well done. Tax payers money at it best.
The intelligence community has got the government by the balls, no matter who gets in.
joshcryer
(62,277 posts)...provide 'em materials. Pow. They just nabbed themselves a terraist!
Happened throughout the 90s and early 2000s over the "green scare."
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)I hope the asshole is put away for life.
DUIC
(167 posts)No one twisted his arm. He was predisposed to violence and agents gave him a safe format.