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TexasTowelie

(112,345 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 06:11 PM Jul 2013

Records: Texas teenager raped as men cheered

Source: AP

AUSTIN, Texas — Authorities are investigating the rape of a 13-year-old girl in Central Texas who was assaulted by several men, some of whom used cell-phone cameras to record the attack.

Court records filed in Austin indicate the girl ran away from home June 29 and was approached by a car with three men inside. The girl was driven to an apartment about a mile away.

Records say up to 10 men were at the apartment, with some taking turns having sex with the girl. She told police that some cheered.

The Austin American-Statesman reports (http://bit.ly/16LVN3j ) that two men have been charged with aggravated sexual assault of a child. Twenty-four-year-old Juan Lozano Ortega and 26-year-old Edgar Guzman Perez were in custody Thursday, each on a $30,000 bond, after being arrested a day earlier.

Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/07/18/5010781/records-texas-teenager-raped-as.html



Austin American-Statesman article:

Police: Two men charged in gang rape of 13-year-old


Two men have been arrested after a 13-year-old girl reported several males sexually assaulted her for hours and recorded the attack with cell phone cameras.

Juan Lozano Ortega, 25, and Edgar Gerardo Guzman Perez, 26, were both charged Wednesday with aggravated sexual assault of a child, a first-degree felony. They were still in custody Thursday with bail set at $30,000 each, according to jail records.

According to arrest affidavits, the girl ran away from where she was living in North Austin between 9 and 10 p.m. on June 29 when she was approached by a car with three males in it. She got in, and they brought her to an apartment about a mile away near Rundberg Lane and Meadow Vale, the documents say.

Up to seven to 10 males were there, an affidavit said, and she was taken to a bedroom where Ortega assaulted her while several others recorded the incident on their cell phones.

More at http://www.statesman.com/news/news/crime-law/police-two-men-charged-in-gang-rape-of-13-year-old/nYt96/ .
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Records: Texas teenager raped as men cheered (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jul 2013 OP
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #1
I doubt the perps are ReThugs, or bother to vote. Shrike47 Jul 2013 #12
I don't know why you make that assumption... harrose Jul 2013 #15
Not really. cliffordu Jul 2013 #17
I disagree. harrose Jul 2013 #20
I come from a family that was traditionally republican. crim son Jul 2013 #33
Given the crime happened in Texas and the names of the perps Mike Daniels Jul 2013 #53
Slugs like these guys obama2terms Jul 2013 #56
Hmm you may have a point UglyGreed Jul 2013 #61
If you have evidence Democrats rape less than Republicans BainsBane Jul 2013 #22
Just common sense harrose Jul 2013 #24
It's not common sense BainsBane Jul 2013 #25
It is common sense harrose Jul 2013 #29
Now state law is another matter BainsBane Jul 2013 #31
You are loony pscot Jul 2013 #36
Yep. cliffordu Jul 2013 #44
no JI7 Jul 2013 #28
Having spent some years working with prison inmates in Texas Diego_Native 2012 Jul 2013 #38
Horseshit. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #41
I think they are probably not the voting type. Ash_F Jul 2013 #62
this has nothing to do with party/politics, there are Dems/liberals who do things JI7 Jul 2013 #27
of course there are... harrose Jul 2013 #30
the accused Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #42
guys are generally not thinking about politics when it comes to sex yurbud Jul 2013 #60
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #2
And what might that be? uppityperson Jul 2013 #10
Yep - I'd like to know the same. cliffordu Jul 2013 #18
FWIW, I did not alert but thank whomever did. uppityperson Jul 2013 #35
Pretty nice here too - cliffordu Jul 2013 #37
Sounds good. Festival weekend is the first in Sept, if you are interested in it or crowds. uppityperson Jul 2013 #51
Kool, will do!! cliffordu Jul 2013 #54
Bad food, bad mattress and Drale Jul 2013 #21
Instead, I hope they get what's coming to them in the courts. To hope that anyone gets 24601 Jul 2013 #13
Jesus Christ! nt Deep13 Jul 2013 #3
These men should never see the light of day again. nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #4
I feel so sick right now. all american girl Jul 2013 #5
Damn them to hell. nt sheshe2 Jul 2013 #6
I hope all Texans- ruffburr Jul 2013 #7
I wondered about that myself. nt matthews Jul 2013 #9
Hey, some of us supported Wendy Davis' filibuster derby378 Jul 2013 #55
I can think of a couple of guys who would be 'geldings' if I had matthews Jul 2013 #8
If she get pregnant, HockeyMom Jul 2013 #11
One of the five remaining clinics open is in Austin where the crime occurred. TexasTowelie Jul 2013 #16
She is underage and will need parental permission Lithos Jul 2013 #19
I'd say she's a ward of the State brett_jv Jul 2013 #49
Animals. historylovr Jul 2013 #14
Apparently, they should have just shot her to death, so they could claim self-defense. pnwmom Jul 2013 #23
Perry Country orpupilofnature57 Jul 2013 #26
My Heart Goes Out to That Girl lib87 Jul 2013 #32
So are they trying to blame this on illegal immigrants yet? Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #34
I'm sorry if this sounds like I'm putting a political spin on this horrific event ... brett_jv Jul 2013 #50
You know if it turns out they are Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #57
Oh, exactly (n/t) brett_jv Jul 2013 #59
"Wouldn't it be funny if that girl got raped by like five guys right now?" Daniel Tosh, 'comedian" alp227 Jul 2013 #39
Da fuck? Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #40
Yes, the bail is too low. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #52
Utterly disgusting. William769 Jul 2013 #43
Castration in this circumstance is fine by me. Adsos Letter Jul 2013 #63
horrible Liberal_in_LA Jul 2013 #45
I shudder to think what this poor girl's life at the Group Home must've been like ... brett_jv Jul 2013 #46
Send them to Norway and let them play musical chairs with Anders Breivik. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #47
Cut off their dicks! Zoeisright Jul 2013 #48
Some Texans seems to have no idea about right and wrong. In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #58

Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

harrose

(380 posts)
15. I don't know why you make that assumption...
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 06:37 PM
Jul 2013

At least my assumption (and yes, I grant that it is an assumption) is based on the typical behavior of Rethugs. Granted, I might be wrong, but the odds are heavily in my favor.

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
53. Given the crime happened in Texas and the names of the perps
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 10:27 PM
Jul 2013

I'd be willing to say the chance they are Republicans (if they are citizens at all) is as likely as the chance that most murders in NE DC are committed by native Americans.

obama2terms

(563 posts)
56. Slugs like these guys
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 11:22 PM
Jul 2013

Probably just lounge around and don't even bother to vote. Even if these men are republican, I highly doubt that was the reason why they attacked this child, or have the sick thoughts that they probably have.

harrose

(380 posts)
24. Just common sense
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 06:56 PM
Jul 2013

No, not evidence, just common sense. Rethugs hate women, as evidenced by their proposed legislation and their attitudes toward women. Since rape is a crime of hatred against women, it's only logical to assume that the odds that the perpetrators are Rethugs (whether registered or simply holding the same values) is higher than not.

Again, I'm not saying that it's 100% that the perps are Rethugs. It's possible that I'm wrong on that. It's just that the odds are in favor of it.

Ask yourself this.. would the scenario described in the link below more likely happen in a Democratic state or a Rethug state?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014541563

BainsBane

(53,041 posts)
25. It's not common sense
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 06:58 PM
Jul 2013

Plenty of Democratic men hate women too. Rape is less about politics and more about how someone is raised and their propensity toward violence.

As for state sanctioned rape through mechanisms like state sanctioned ultra-sound, Republicans take the prize.

harrose

(380 posts)
29. It is common sense
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:01 PM
Jul 2013

It is. Of course there are some Dems that hate women... I never claimed that Dems were perfect. But again, given the numbers, it's far more likely that it's a Rethug.

Tell me, where would you see the scenario in the following link playing out -- a Democratic state, or a state controlled by Rethugs?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014541563

BainsBane

(53,041 posts)
31. Now state law is another matter
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:05 PM
Jul 2013

I thought you were talking about individual rapists. The UAE is neither Republican nor Democrat.

Believe me, I'm no fan of the GOP, but I also don't like the tendency of some men to think they get a pass just because they vote for Democrats. There is often a disconnect between one's personal and political behavior.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
36. You are loony
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jul 2013

Of course I have no evidence to back that up, other than a couple of bizarre posts, but it stands to reason.

38. Having spent some years working with prison inmates in Texas
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:37 PM
Jul 2013

I can assure you, at least anecdotally, that the vast majority of prison inmates are political conservatives. You would be astonished by how many of them are "law-and-order" types with a hang-em high attitude...at least when it comes to other peoples crimes.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
41. Horseshit.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:45 PM
Jul 2013

The perps were hispanic...if they bothered to vote at all, the odds are 90% they voted Dem.

JI7

(89,260 posts)
27. this has nothing to do with party/politics, there are Dems/liberals who do things
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:00 PM
Jul 2013

like this also

harrose

(380 posts)
30. of course there are...
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jul 2013

... but, numerically, given their attitudes about women and their hatred for them, it's far more likely to be a Rethug. Granted, there are some despicable Democrats, but I find that the overwhelming number of women-haters are Rethugs.

Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
37. Pretty nice here too -
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:36 PM
Jul 2013

miss that little town, but can't return for good quite yet.

Mebbe be up for a visit end of the month.

Coffee??

uppityperson

(115,678 posts)
51. Sounds good. Festival weekend is the first in Sept, if you are interested in it or crowds.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 09:13 PM
Jul 2013

Drop me a line, a jingle, whatever you have for contacting me and we can say hi over coffee, fill me in on gossip.

24601

(3,962 posts)
13. Instead, I hope they get what's coming to them in the courts. To hope that anyone gets
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 06:30 PM
Jul 2013

raped for whatever reason is indeed truly sick.

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
7. I hope all Texans-
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 06:21 PM
Jul 2013

Are Real Proud of their Lone Star State, I wonder if she can get an abortion when she ends up pregnant, Not.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
11. If she get pregnant,
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 06:28 PM
Jul 2013

she will also be forced to have her rapist's (which ONE?) baby because they are shutting all the clinics in the state.

Then they talk about Sharia Law?

TexasTowelie

(112,345 posts)
16. One of the five remaining clinics open is in Austin where the crime occurred.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 06:39 PM
Jul 2013

Hopefully, she isn't pregnant but I think she will have access to an abortion within the constraints of the law for a female of her age (parental permission).

There are a lot of comments on the AAS article that you might want to review that agree and disagree with your perspective. It might be helpful to check them out in case you want to engage in more lively discussion than what you would find on DU.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
19. She is underage and will need parental permission
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 06:42 PM
Jul 2013

On Edit: Not sure she would even be given the morning after pill given her age.

L-

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
49. I'd say she's a ward of the State
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:52 PM
Jul 2013

She had been living at a group home, ran away, was gone for three weeks, apparently walking the streets ... it's pretty safe to say there's no 'parents' in this picture.

And also safe to say that the State of Texas is doing a phenomenally craptastic job of keeping track of the children they're in charge of. Dollars-to-donuts they could've found her long ago if they'd put forth any remotely serious effort, she hadn't even left town.

Such a terrible shame, this whole situation.

lib87

(535 posts)
32. My Heart Goes Out to That Girl
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jul 2013

I need a Texan to exact some vigilante justice on those men and claim self defense.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
34. So are they trying to blame this on illegal immigrants yet?
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:27 PM
Jul 2013

If not I am sure it won't be long before they are, even if they are 4th generation Americans.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
50. I'm sorry if this sounds like I'm putting a political spin on this horrific event ...
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:59 PM
Jul 2013

But for the sake of the good people who ARE ... I really hope these guys are NOT illegal immigrants.

Again, sorry if that's distasteful, but due to the need for a large segment of people in this society to stereotype unfairly ... I really do hope they're not.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
57. You know if it turns out they are
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:55 AM
Jul 2013

This will be the headline for every screaming ad against immigration reform.

alp227

(32,047 posts)
39. "Wouldn't it be funny if that girl got raped by like five guys right now?" Daniel Tosh, 'comedian"
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:43 PM
Jul 2013

AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGH! ARGH shittinmotherfuckinggoddamn AMERICAN RAPE CULTURE!!!!! AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHH!!!!!!!

Daniel Tosh HAS. BLOOD. ON. HIS. HANDS. AND. KNEES.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
40. Da fuck?
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:45 PM
Jul 2013

This is fucking disgusting.

Not one guy stood up and tried to prevent this? And why were only two charged. According to the article, it was "several men." And why only $30,000 bail? That seems a bit low.

Jeez.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
52. Yes, the bail is too low.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 09:41 PM
Jul 2013

As for the others, I kind of got the impression that they haven't been located yet.

William769

(55,147 posts)
43. Utterly disgusting.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:49 PM
Jul 2013

Yes, I may be in the minority here, but I have no problem with castration under these circumstances.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
63. Castration in this circumstance is fine by me.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:11 PM
Jul 2013

Along with a lifetime behind bars to reflect upon their ball-less condition.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
46. I shudder to think what this poor girl's life at the Group Home must've been like ...
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:27 PM
Jul 2013

My Lord, how bad must things have been at the Home when a 13yo chooses life on the (obviously dangerous) streets like this instead?

I pray that this girl gets into a loving foster care situation, and gets the help for the emotional trauma she's suffered. And that these a-holes ROT for taking advantage of a lost child in this evil and horrific way.

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