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ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 09:36 PM Jul 2013

Wal-Mart says it will pull out of D.C. plans should city mandate ‘living wage’

Source: WaPo

Wal-Mart says it will pull out of D.C. plans should city mandate ‘living wage’

The world’s largest retailer delivered an ultimatum to District lawmakers Tuesday, telling them less than 24 hours before a decisive vote that at least three planned Wal-Marts will not open in the city should a super-minimum-wage proposal become law.
A team of Wal-Mart officials and lobbyists, including a high-level executive from the mega-retailer’s Arkansas headquarters, walked the halls of the John A. Wilson Building on Tuesday afternoon, delivering the news to D.C. Council members.

The company’s hardball tactics come out of a well-worn playbook that involves successfully using Wal-Mart’s leverage in the form of jobs and low-priced goods to fend off legislation and regulation that could cut into its profits and set precedent in other potential markets. In the Wilson Building, elected officials have found their reliable liberal, pro-union political sentiments in conflict with their desire to bring amenities to underserved neighborhoods.

Mayor Vincent C. Gray (D) called Wal-Mart’s move “immensely discouraging,” indicating that he may consider vetoing the bill while pondering whether to seek reelection.

The D.C. Council bill would require retailers with corporate sales of $1 billion or more and operating in spaces 75,000 square feet or larger to pay their employees no less than $12.50 an hour. The city’s minimum wage is $8.25.

....................more http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/wal-mart-says-it-will-pull-out-of-dc-plans-should-city-mandate-living-wage/2013/07/09/4fa7e710-e8d0-11e2-a301-ea5a8116d211_story.html

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/wal-mart-says-it-will-pull-out-of-dc-plans-should-city-mandate-living-wage/2013/07/09/4fa7e710-e8d0-11e2-a301-ea5a8116d211_story.html

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Wal-Mart says it will pull out of D.C. plans should city mandate ‘living wage’ (Original Post) ErikJ Jul 2013 OP
I love that idea! Just Saying Jul 2013 #1
+1 Scuba Jul 2013 #46
Wal-Mart WaPo op-ed: The D.C. Council has forced our hand ErikJ Jul 2013 #2
Ha,a living wage trumps China-Mart! demosincebirth Jul 2013 #28
I wonder if Alex knows the difference between good jobs and the ones his company offers jmowreader Jul 2013 #42
Thank you! kimmylavin Jul 2013 #57
living in DC is expensive - avrg. list price for homes is $477K - wages should reflect that wordpix Jul 2013 #54
Yet Costco seems to be doing fine paying much better 7962 Jul 2013 #103
No, Wally--the people said they wanted GOOD jobs! lastlib Jul 2013 #75
I can understand why. atreides1 Jul 2013 #77
Fucking disgusting liar. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #115
Once again, Walmart wants the public purse to pay . . . MrModerate Jul 2013 #3
The richest family in the world ErikJ Jul 2013 #5
I do not think the Walton family owns the company anymore. littlewolf Jul 2013 #9
They all make billions in dividends from Walmart stock every year. ErikJ Jul 2013 #13
According to state newspaper on the shareholders meeting this year, Hestia Jul 2013 #79
thank you I didnot know that about the walton family eom littlewolf Jul 2013 #99
We have our winner. Brigid Jul 2013 #82
+1 MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #6
Hey, a new slogan! Doc Holliday Jul 2013 #114
I believe most would agree the country was better off before Walmart tomm2thumbs Jul 2013 #4
Never thought of it this way, but your are correct.nt kelliekat44 Jul 2013 #60
do not cave to these shitters frylock Jul 2013 #7
And pay for their employee's health care as well Iliyah Jul 2013 #8
This keeps the poor living in poverty CountAllVotes Jul 2013 #12
Tell them to get lost. cheapdate Jul 2013 #10
Why not just make the minium wage 12.50 for everybody. Travis_0004 Jul 2013 #11
Wal-Mart is like a cancer CountAllVotes Jul 2013 #17
Not a cancer Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #76
Boy, you sure nailed it! CountAllVotes Jul 2013 #96
I agree. hughee99 Jul 2013 #67
They are. KamaAina Jul 2013 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author KamaAina Jul 2013 #83
No they are not. Travis_0004 Jul 2013 #88
No, they aren't. KamaAina Jul 2013 #89
Because CONGRESS runs DC--they make those decisions, and they won't do it, the bastards. MADem Jul 2013 #101
Dont go after them with higher wages, go after them with higher corporate taxes that cstanleytech Jul 2013 #14
How about just a tax to pay for their employees health care and food? ErikJ Jul 2013 #15
1st we have to have a Congress that will enact such legislation .. I won't hold my breath !! YOHABLO Jul 2013 #93
Oh heaven05 Jul 2013 #16
A living wage... but only from corporations making more than $1 Billion? tinrobot Jul 2013 #18
I guess the idea is to establish the precedent ... brett_jv Jul 2013 #24
I think it's fair. Chef Eric Jul 2013 #47
But the square footage requirement essentially makes it Wal Mart only tinrobot Jul 2013 #55
Absolutely on McDonalds. Chan790 Jul 2013 #70
before they can be driven out... sweetapogee Jul 2013 #50
I think District lawmakers should tell them to go to Hell Triana Jul 2013 #19
...and do without the campaign money? Silly ...it's congress. They don't work for us. L0oniX Jul 2013 #29
The city should buy up those 3 properties and open its own public-option department stores there. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #20
+1 handmade34 Jul 2013 #62
What gets lost here...and I live here... Chan790 Jul 2013 #71
A living wage should apply to all employees. Period. SheilaT Jul 2013 #21
Shows a lot about Walmart's character, doesn't it? nt silvershadow Jul 2013 #22
Buh-bye! Mister Ed Jul 2013 #23
Leave Chumps. And don't let the doorknob hit you in the ass on the way out! - K&R n/t DeSwiss Jul 2013 #25
One more reason to raise it. nt Live and Learn Jul 2013 #26
WalMart, threatening to raise the quality of life if they don't get their way railsback Jul 2013 #27
Good reason to do so! BOYCOTT Wal*Mart! Support your local unions! Coyotl Jul 2013 #30
Nice! They'd rather forego the profits of a new store than allow one bad example Alamuti Lotus Jul 2013 #31
Call their bluff. They stand to make a TON of money in the DC stores. spooky3 Jul 2013 #32
Good....Costcos would be better anyways. yourout Jul 2013 #33
yea! we have found the key to getting rid of WalMart! And it's a lot easier ZRT2209 Jul 2013 #34
Yes please make my day. airplaneman Jul 2013 #35
Hell ... Most communities I have lived in fought like hell to keep them out ... Trajan Jul 2013 #36
Sounds like a win-win. Gore1FL Jul 2013 #37
Good! SoapBox Jul 2013 #38
I'm sure some retailer will be happy to take their place Nevernose Jul 2013 #39
I would like to see a Costco go in and take the space Samantha Jul 2013 #40
I've got no problem with a living wage SnakeEyes Jul 2013 #41
Dear DC: hold your position. Too many other towns learned painfully that WM kills towns. politicat Jul 2013 #43
I'd say demand a wage of at least $22/hr., plus insurance, 40 hrs week, no part-time, vacation, ... ReRe Jul 2013 #44
The best part is that that'd make it easier for DC to implement one. Posteritatis Jul 2013 #45
Buy CostCO. /nt TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #48
K & R ctsnowman Jul 2013 #49
Is that next door to the ninth circle of hell? Brigid Jul 2013 #85
Bye-bye, WalMart. "Buy Buy" Costco. DinahMoeHum Jul 2013 #51
I work for Costco.... lupine25 Jul 2013 #73
Nice of you to share this with us. Welcome to DU. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2013 #90
good riddance, we don't need MalWart in DC wordpix Jul 2013 #52
Like that's a bad thing? /nt dballance Jul 2013 #53
$12.50 is a Good Target for the Minumum Wage On the Road Jul 2013 #56
Did WalMart get their usual deal SwankyXomb Jul 2013 #58
they said no... handmade34 Jul 2013 #63
Good riddance Doctor_J Jul 2013 #59
It was stupid to tailor a law just for Walmart hack89 Jul 2013 #61
Eh. Turnabout is fair play. lolly Jul 2013 #98
So show me the winners in this particular episode hack89 Jul 2013 #102
Great! See you. This will save city money on point Jul 2013 #64
"Wal-Mart Could Easily Afford to Pay 12$ an Hour" handmade34 Jul 2013 #65
No loss. Other better stores will rise in its place. n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #66
That are not required to pay more than the minimum wage. nt hack89 Jul 2013 #104
That will be required to pay a higher wage if the city enacts such a law. nt pnwmom Jul 2013 #112
Did you actually read the law? hack89 Jul 2013 #113
Good riddance! There will be a lot of companies glad to have the extra business. tofuandbeer Jul 2013 #68
Business that only have to pay the minimum wage. hack89 Jul 2013 #105
My heart sunk when I heard that horrible inhumane operation was setting up shop in my hometown DC Laughing Mirror Jul 2013 #69
Any discussion on major corporations Saviolo Jul 2013 #72
Bye bye moochers! reflection Jul 2013 #74
Yeah, their wages have worked out so well for Arkansans. Hestia Jul 2013 #78
Buh bye, Wal-Mart! Brigid Jul 2013 #80
Hey Sprawl-Mart, if you're lurking, San Jose raised its minimum wage, too. KamaAina Jul 2013 #84
Did they raise it for every company or just Walmart? nt hack89 Jul 2013 #106
Every company KamaAina Jul 2013 #108
No - I am saying that every company needs to pay a living wage hack89 Jul 2013 #109
Correct. KamaAina Jul 2013 #111
D.C. should take a lesson from NYC . . . markpkessinger Jul 2013 #86
That's a feature, not a bug! distantearlywarning Jul 2013 #87
Hey WalFart! Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya! muntrv Jul 2013 #91
F wallfucks AAO Jul 2013 #92
Everyone wave bye bye to China-Mart... revmclaren Jul 2013 #94
Good. Leave already. n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #95
Well, OK then, let's do the living wage in every city in America and watch what Fail-Mart does 4lbs Jul 2013 #97
As long as every company has to pay that wage hack89 Jul 2013 #107
Bye! blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #100
Okay, someone help me - what's the downside here...? closeupready Jul 2013 #110

Just Saying

(1,799 posts)
1. I love that idea!
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 09:38 PM
Jul 2013

Good riddance to bad rubbish!

Gee what will we do without below poverty level jobs and shitty Chinese products?

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
2. Wal-Mart WaPo op-ed: The D.C. Council has forced our hand
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 09:40 PM
Jul 2013
Wal-Mart: The D.C. Council has forced our hand

By Alex Barron, Tuesday, July 9, 12:13 PM

Alex Barron is a regional general manager for Wal-Mart U.S. and is responsible for about 90 stores and 30,000 associates in the D.C. area, including all stores planned for Washington.

For almost three years, Wal-Mart has worked on a plan to bring new stores to Washington, and we are close to opening our first location in the city. Unfortunately, the District may soon adopt legislation that discriminates against business and threatens to undo all that we have accomplished together.

In November 2010, Wal-Mart announced a plan to bring more jobs, shopping options and fresh food choices to Washington residents. Just 12 months later, we increased our investment — from four stores to six and from 1,200 jobs to 1,800 — in an effort to expand access and opportunity to more underserved communities in the city.

During this time, we also engaged in an open dialogue with residents, stakeholders, critics and elected officials. Our goal was to listen, share information about our company, answer questions about our plans and address any concerns.

Residents told us that they wanted good jobs and more affordable grocery options in their neighborhood. We also heard about issues such as local hiring, competitive wages, an inclusive construction process, local products and support for community nonprofits.

................clip

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/wal-mart-in-wage-law-vote-the-dc-council-has-forced-our-hand/2013/07/09/dee907d4-e8c5-11e2-8f22-de4bd2a2bd39_story.html?tid=pm_opinions_pop

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
54. living in DC is expensive - avrg. list price for homes is $477K - wages should reflect that
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 09:33 AM
Jul 2013
http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Washington-District_Of_Columbia/

Even the low-income parts of the District are changing, gentrifying and becoming more expensive. A friend bought a house in one of these areas for $65K but it was a wreck. He had to spend $100K just to make the house liveable, and that was just for the basics, nothing beyond that.

Note in this link Naylor Gardens in SE DC, a "steal" at $124K for avrg. coop price but this represents a 65% increase compared to last year. This area has some nice parts but it is also crime ridden with gang elements and a lot of school truancy at the high school.

Point is, you need a lot of money to live in DC, whether you're buying or renting, and asking $12.50/hr. for wages will barely get you a room rental, much less an apt. in a decent neighborhood.
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
103. Yet Costco seems to be doing fine paying much better
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 07:26 AM
Jul 2013

Maybe WM could learn a few things from THEM.

lastlib

(23,329 posts)
75. No, Wally--the people said they wanted GOOD jobs!
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 03:27 PM
Jul 2013

Not your half-time, half-slave wages with no benefits.

atreides1

(16,094 posts)
77. I can understand why.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 03:38 PM
Jul 2013

The D.C. Council is trying to get away from having to subsidize Wal Mart by providing assistance to those who will be employed at these stores.

SunSeeker

(51,746 posts)
115. Fucking disgusting liar.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 03:15 AM
Jul 2013

 

Just 12 months later, we increased our investment — from four stores to six and from 1,200 jobs to 1,800 — in an effort to expand access and opportunity to more underserved communities in the city. 


What a steaming pile of shit. Walmart opens stores out of the goodness of their heart to help communities, dontcha know?

If Walmart wanted to "expand opportunity" they'd pay a living wage and benefits, not exploit our country's poor.
 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
3. Once again, Walmart wants the public purse to pay . . .
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 09:41 PM
Jul 2013

Their employees to stay alive, because Walmart doesn't care to do so.

Walmart can go to hell.

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
9. I do not think the Walton family owns the company anymore.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 09:53 PM
Jul 2013

there are 2 members of the family on the BoD ... but it is far from privately owned ... heck my 401k and my IRA are invested in walmart.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
13. They all make billions in dividends from Walmart stock every year.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 10:03 PM
Jul 2013

I believe thay own a controlling major share of Walmart stock still.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
79. According to state newspaper on the shareholders meeting this year,
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:04 PM
Jul 2013

Walton family holds 54% of the stock, and has the final say in any board decisions in spite of what other board members vote. So yeah, everything Walmart sits at the feet of the Walton family. First they screw Arkansas, legislature gives into them, then they go and screw the rest of America. Don't do it DC, stand firm on living wages, don't make the same mistakes we did.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
4. I believe most would agree the country was better off before Walmart
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 09:43 PM
Jul 2013

Maybe it's time they did the right thing and just roll up the carpet on their whole operation... for the good of the country. Their operations are a blight on America.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
11. Why not just make the minium wage 12.50 for everybody.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 09:57 PM
Jul 2013

I don't get the point of singling out a few corporations, and letting others slide.

CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
17. Wal-Mart is like a cancer
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 10:13 PM
Jul 2013

We fought them for many years in an already impoverished economy.

Finally, things got bad enough that they wormed their way in.

I will not buy anything from them ever, no matter how desperate I may become.

Wal-Mart is evil. They encourage poverty at YOUR expense.

We must boycott and power is most certainly in the hands of the people for a change!

YES WE CAN EH?



Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
76. Not a cancer
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 03:31 PM
Jul 2013

its an SDT. more like syphilis really.
I posted this yesterday and I think it makes my point.



Finally, Wal-mart is the retail version of syphilis. Your town contracts wal-mart, slowly goes commercially insane, impotent, and sterile. The body of your workforce becomes weaker and weaker, making the ravages of wal-mart all the more severe. Then you pass it on to the next town. And each infected town in your states community of towns, drains resources from the parent community.

We have needed the protective legislation equivalent of a big penicillin shot in the ass for a long time.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
67. I agree.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 12:31 PM
Jul 2013

I'm not sure why a company's global revenue or floor space should be a deciding factor in it's employees making a "living wage".

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
81. They are.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:17 PM
Jul 2013

Sprawl-Mart is singling themselves out by whining about it, like Papa John's did about Obamacare.

Response to KamaAina (Reply #81)

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
88. No they are not.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 05:51 PM
Jul 2013

This law only applies to businesses who make over a certain amount, and have more than 75,000 sq feet.

If they want to raise the minimum wage, it should apply to all businesses, not just a few.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
89. No, they aren't.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 05:55 PM
Jul 2013

Missed that. I thought DC was being a little nervy going for a $12.50 minimum wage when even SF has only $10.55.

And you're probably right. But Sprawl-Mart should just go to court rather than throw a hissy fit. Either that, or just incorporate "Walton Capitol Holdings" in the Cayman Islands.

This might, however, be an intriguing way of leveling the playing field between David and Goliath Drawback: Workers would presumably flock from mom-and-pops to big-box stores paying 50% more.\.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
101. Because CONGRESS runs DC--they make those decisions, and they won't do it, the bastards.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 03:43 AM
Jul 2013

Most people don't realize that the power of the City Council is VERY limited--when it comes to major spending decisions, Congress holds the purse strings.

"Home rule" is only through the grace and favour of the Congress....


Article One, Section Eight of the United States Constitution grants the U.S. Congress "exclusive jurisdiction" over the city. The District did not have an elected local government until the passage of the 1973 Home Rule Act. The Act devolved certain Congressional powers to an elected mayor, currently Vincent C. Gray, and the thirteen-member Council of the District of Columbia. However, Congress retains the right to review and overturn laws created by the council and intervene in local affairs.[159]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.#Government

cstanleytech

(26,336 posts)
14. Dont go after them with higher wages, go after them with higher corporate taxes that
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 10:05 PM
Jul 2013

is based on the gap between pay from the lowest earner in a store to the CEO of the company.
The bigger the gap the larger the % walmart has to pay.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
93. 1st we have to have a Congress that will enact such legislation .. I won't hold my breath !!
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 09:54 PM
Jul 2013

We have to get rid of Citizens United .. and install stringent campaign finance reform .. seriously folks. We can sit here and say we need this and that, but without representation that will take action .. and a president who wants to hold hands with the Repugs and sing Kumbayah, nothing will ever happen. Hell yeah we need a federally mandated minimum wage .. but when you have entities like the Kochs saying things like ''a lower than minimum wage is good for the poor'' we don't stand a chance. It's time to purge these corporatist and take the country back .. Love to see Walmart turned into roller skating rinks.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
16. Oh
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 10:12 PM
Jul 2013

didn't you hear, the job market with a livable wage is looking up according to BLOOMBERG and the puppets who believe their corporate/media puppet masters.

tinrobot

(10,926 posts)
18. A living wage... but only from corporations making more than $1 Billion?
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 10:13 PM
Jul 2013
The D.C. Council bill would require retailers with corporate sales of $1 billion or more and operating in spaces 75,000 square feet or larger to pay their employees no less than $12.50 an hour. The city’s minimum wage is $8.25.


As much as I'd like to see Wal-Mart driven out of DC, how is this fair? The minimum wage should be $12.50 for all businesses, regardless of income/size.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
24. I guess the idea is to establish the precedent ...
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:14 PM
Jul 2013

With the companies that are actually able to PAY (in this case VERY easily).

Then, over time, optimally, you lower the requirements to include smaller stores and companies, and hence, more workers.

I mean, sure, it'd be great if the US Congress would just raise the minimum wage dramatically across the board. But with the Rethugs in charge ... it ain't gonna happen. At least this establishes a precedent that can be leveraged in the future, perhaps even by other municipalities.

It's baby steps, I suppose you might say. It's 'better than nothing'.

Although, admittedly ... a tad unfair for workers who DON'T (or won't) work at Walmart or similar company. But what are ya gonna do? At least SOME people will be getting paid a living wage.

Chef Eric

(1,024 posts)
47. I think it's fair.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 08:38 AM
Jul 2013

If individuals who earn more can be subjected to higher tax rates, then I see no reason why businesses that earn more shouldn't be required to pay a higher minimum wage.

tinrobot

(10,926 posts)
55. But the square footage requirement essentially makes it Wal Mart only
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 09:42 AM
Jul 2013

McDonald's makes a lot more than a billion, so does Starbucks, but because they have smaller stores, they are exempt.

I'm all for a higher minimum wage - for all, not just Wal Mart employees. I think all of these companies should pay more.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
70. Absolutely on McDonalds.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 01:09 PM
Jul 2013

Factoring in tip income, an average Starbucks store-partner nationally with 2 years of experience makes ~$12.50/hr. already, even if they're still in an entry-level barista position. I hated working for Starbucks for a number of reasons and will rarely say anything nice about them...pay was never one of those reasons.

sweetapogee

(1,168 posts)
50. before they can be driven out...
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 09:12 AM
Jul 2013

they have to be allowed in, which as of this day they are not (in). Not that I care to pick nits or do major battle over this issue as it is easy to simply avoid shopping in stores that we don't like, but this small detail makes us look uninformed. Don't mean to offend anyone as I understand what you are trying to say!

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
19. I think District lawmakers should tell them to go to Hell
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 10:20 PM
Jul 2013

It's about time someone in gov't did, instead of kissing their ass.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
20. The city should buy up those 3 properties and open its own public-option department stores there.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 10:37 PM
Jul 2013

Then they can pay something decent, and run the stores at cost, as a non-profit.

Also fuck Walmart.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
71. What gets lost here...and I live here...
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 01:29 PM
Jul 2013

is that the city-council and mayor's office are both strongly pro-gentrification. They actively work for a city that is devoid of a working-class to be the playground of the upwardly-mobile white-collar workforce.

This is as much about further driving poor people out of the city-proper and into SE (DC doesn't give a f**k what happens in Ward-8, it's cut off from the rest of the city by the Anacostia River. It's ghettoized by-design.) and PG County. (making them Maryland's problem) Walmart didn't just want to open stores, they targeted to open stores in up-and-coming neighborhoods like the 16th st. corridor and GA Ave. corridor where the city wants to restrict business to upscale retailers and boutiques to appeal to the population they want to attract and discourage the population they want to drive away.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
21. A living wage should apply to all employees. Period.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 10:58 PM
Jul 2013

Everyone deserves to be able to survive on minimum wage.

For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure $12.50 would be the highest minimum in the country.

spooky3

(34,499 posts)
32. Call their bluff. They stand to make a TON of money in the DC stores.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:53 PM
Jul 2013

Wal-Mart would actually probably do better economically if they paid higher wages -- just ask Costco.

I hope the DC council and the mayor stand firm, but I don't think they will. I predict some sort of compromise, such as a $10 "living wage."

I don't know how anyone could consider even the $12.50 wage a living wage in such an expensive city, particularly not with the poor benefits WM offers.

ZRT2209

(1,357 posts)
34. yea! we have found the key to getting rid of WalMart! And it's a lot easier
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 12:11 AM
Jul 2013

than fighting them in front of local zoning boards!

Just pass living wage law and WalMart will run screaming like a demon from holy water.

airplaneman

(1,240 posts)
35. Yes please make my day.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 12:12 AM
Jul 2013

I would go for $15 minimum wage nationally. Things will get better without WalMart so I hope they don't cave and WalMart goes. Good middens - maybe it will set an example nationally.
-Airplane

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
36. Hell ... Most communities I have lived in fought like hell to keep them out ...
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 12:17 AM
Jul 2013

Portland Oregon has largely succeeded (although one or two 'neighborhood markets' snuck under the radar) ...

We welcome this move, O'Sam and family .... Please go away ....

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
39. I'm sure some retailer will be happy to take their place
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 01:32 AM
Jul 2013

There are plenty of businesses willing to pay a little more to their employees in order to make a lot more from their customers.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
40. I would like to see a Costco go in and take the space
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 01:40 AM
Jul 2013

That would really make a statement, wouldn't it?

Sam

SnakeEyes

(1,407 posts)
41. I've got no problem with a living wage
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 03:21 AM
Jul 2013

I can afford to pay higher prices. But something will need to be done to make sure the poor can afford things too.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
44. I'd say demand a wage of at least $22/hr., plus insurance, 40 hrs week, no part-time, vacation, ...
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 05:49 AM
Jul 2013

... sick days with pay, childcare, maternity leave....

Ba-Bye, Walmart. Don't let the door hit ya, etc....

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
45. The best part is that that'd make it easier for DC to implement one.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 06:13 AM
Jul 2013

What? The retail chain whose presence drives wages down even in other businesses will leave if DC tries to increase wages?

No! Anything but the briar patch!

lupine25

(33 posts)
73. I work for Costco....
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 02:50 PM
Jul 2013

...at their home office in Issaquah, WA (technical support). Last year we opened our first Costco location within the District of Columbia and so far people love it. I had to smile when, on opening day, Joe Biden showed up to reactivate his Costco membership. Haha! As far as I'm concerned (and this is my personal view, not that of the company) Wal-Mart hating the "living wage" deal in DC is adding even more icing to the best tasting cake in America right now.

DinahMoeHum

(21,816 posts)
90. Nice of you to share this with us. Welcome to DU. . .
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 06:10 PM
Jul 2013

. . .and as I like to say on a topic like this: "Don't just boycott, 'Buy-cott'"

IOW. don't just refuse to buy at places like WalMart. Take your business elsewhere, such as Costco.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
56. $12.50 is a Good Target for the Minumum Wage
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 10:27 AM
Jul 2013

However, this shows the danger of states raising the minimum too much on their own, especially if the population is close to a border.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
61. It was stupid to tailor a law just for Walmart
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 11:47 AM
Jul 2013

why not do away with the building size requirement and make fast food chains pay a decent wage? McDonalds is a billion dollar corporation.

lolly

(3,248 posts)
98. Eh. Turnabout is fair play.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 01:22 AM
Jul 2013

Walmart has been the beneficiary of countless special tax abatements and tax holiday legislation.

Before the world started getting outraged at them, that was their standard modus operandi--get all kinds of tax freebies, open up a giant store and undercut the prices in all the local and small chain stores that were there (and were paying full value of their taxes) until all the other stores went out of business.

Then they could jack up prices and lower wages, because there would be nowhere else to shop or work.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
102. So show me the winners in this particular episode
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 06:14 AM
Jul 2013

The people that live there get nothing out of it.

handmade34

(22,758 posts)
65. "Wal-Mart Could Easily Afford to Pay 12$ an Hour"
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 12:15 PM
Jul 2013
http://occupydemocrats.com/new-study-finds-wal-mart-could-easily-afford-to-pay-12-an-hour-so-why-dont-they/

"...A new bombshell study by the UC Berkeley Center for Labor Research and Education has found that even if Wal-Mart went to pay their American workers a minimum of $12 an hour, it would cost their average consumer, at most, only $12.49 per year.

Currently, or 66% of Wal-Mart workers – about 900,000 employees – earn less than four dollars an hour, while more than 20% earn less than $9. The study also found that, in general, Wal-Mart’s hourly workers earned about 12.4% less than retail workers as a whole.

The American taxpayer that subsidizes the profits of low-wage/benefits employers like Wal-Mart through food stamps and Medicaid. Wal-Mart’s poverty wages force employees to rely on $2.66 billion in government help every year, or about $420,000 per store. In state after state, Wal-Mart employees are the top recipients of Medicaid. As many as 80 percent of workers in Wal-Mart stores use food stamps. This costs the American taxpayer about $1 billion per year!..."

Laughing Mirror

(4,185 posts)
69. My heart sunk when I heard that horrible inhumane operation was setting up shop in my hometown DC
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 12:58 PM
Jul 2013

And now my heart is rising at the prospect that this might not be happening after all.

Personal note to Yvette Alexander and Mayor Gray: Better options are available for Ward 7 than two Wal-Marts, as you will one day realize.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
78. Yeah, their wages have worked out so well for Arkansans.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 03:53 PM
Jul 2013

You can also thank Walmart for the term "death tax" for inheritance taxes.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
84. Hey Sprawl-Mart, if you're lurking, San Jose raised its minimum wage, too.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:21 PM
Jul 2013

So I guess that means you'll be closing your two Stuporcenters, two "neighborhood markets", and one garden-variety store here, right?

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
108. Every company
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:57 AM
Jul 2013

Jack in the Box is still here, too, despite their empty threats.

So you're saying that Sprawl-Mart is standing on principle at being singled out (sort of; the wage would apply to other big-box retailers such as Target and Costco), rather than just being cheap?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
109. No - I am saying that every company needs to pay a living wage
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 11:01 AM
Jul 2013

I don't see the point of singling out a handful of companies.

Walmart has no principles. It is the judgement of the DC council that has me scratching my head.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
111. Correct.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 11:03 AM
Jul 2013

I pointed out that this might send workers fleeing mom-and-pops in droves for big-box jobs that paid 50% more.

Better to raise the wage to $10/hr. across the board.

markpkessinger

(8,409 posts)
86. D.C. should take a lesson from NYC . . .
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:43 PM
Jul 2013

. . . we have so far (knock on wood) successfully resisted every attempt by Walmart to open a store in the five boroughs of NYC!

distantearlywarning

(4,475 posts)
87. That's a feature, not a bug!
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 05:10 PM
Jul 2013

Walmart is a parasite on America. If I were a decision-maker in this scenario, I'd say "good-bye and good riddance!"

revmclaren

(2,534 posts)
94. Everyone wave bye bye to China-Mart...
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 10:49 PM
Jul 2013

And say hello to at least 10 small local businesses that will gladly take its place. Hope that this will be a spreading trend.

4lbs

(6,865 posts)
97. Well, OK then, let's do the living wage in every city in America and watch what Fail-Mart does
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 01:16 AM
Jul 2013

in response to that!

hack89

(39,171 posts)
107. As long as every company has to pay that wage
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 07:34 AM
Jul 2013

I suspect that Walmart will do just fine (unfortunately).

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