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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 12:23 PM Jul 2013

Nikki Haley Takes Heat After Report Blows Up 'Bogus' Voter Fraud Claims In South Carolina

Source: Huffington Post



For years, South Carolina Republicans have complained about the names of dead voters being used to cast ballots in a broad voter fraud scheme. Now that a recent report by the State Law Enforcement Division has blown up those claims, unable to find a single example of a "zombie voter" committing fraud, one Democrat is demanding that Gov. Nikki Haley (R) apologize for her party's "bogus" crusade.

In a statement released Monday, House Democratic Leader Todd Rutherford accused Haley and other Republicans of deliberately and deceptively pushing false claims for political gain.

"Now we have the proof that shows that the accusations of voter fraud were completely without merit," said Rutherford. "And once again, South Carolina's taxpayers have to foot the bill for the millions of dollars unnecessarily spent as a result of Governor Haley and her colleagues' incompetence and blind-ideology."

Rutherford went on to call for Haley and Republicans to "acknowledge that they were being dishonest about voter fraud" and to "apologize to the public."

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/09/nikki-haley-voter-fraud_n_3566194.html



Lying incompetent crook, again proven a lying incompetent crook.


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Nikki Haley Takes Heat After Report Blows Up 'Bogus' Voter Fraud Claims In South Carolina (Original Post) onehandle Jul 2013 OP
Another GOP scandal falling on its face, they just can't seem to get a good one going. Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #1
The state Attorney General SCantiGOP Jul 2013 #23
Yeah, that's yesphan Jul 2013 #2
Now about that Election Fraud... RC Jul 2013 #3
Meanwhile they took down ACORN and we need ACORN more than ever. nt. graham4anything Jul 2013 #4
Amen graham4anything JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #7
It wasn't just "they" NewJeffCT Jul 2013 #16
no, it was based on REPUBLICAN LIES so it made it seem like something else. Nuance knows it. graham4anything Jul 2013 #17
Yes, it was based on O'Keefe's lies NewJeffCT Jul 2013 #18
Clearly, making the claim of voter fraud..... Sheepshank Jul 2013 #5
Why is it not a crime when an elected official intentionally lies to their citizens? AndyA Jul 2013 #6
... leaving Mitt Romney as America's only vote fraudster. sofa king Jul 2013 #8
No, he's not the only one. You forgot Ann Coulter. Jim Lane Jul 2013 #32
I'm surprised they didn't have a Republican run the investigation.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #9
Bald face lying pos. jessie04 Jul 2013 #10
good luck heaven05 Jul 2013 #11
Lies, delusions, grift and fraud ... it's all the Cons have ... brett_jv Jul 2013 #12
Apologize? Republicans brucefan Jul 2013 #13
Meanwhile In Colorado - SOS Flags 155 As Possible otohara Jul 2013 #14
Florida had a similar list. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #15
I don't get why Democrats at Federal level aren't on this. Organized voter suppression>isn't that an KittyWampus Jul 2013 #20
That is one of the few good things AG Holder has done. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #24
I wonder if they ever examined Ann Coulter's Ilsa Jul 2013 #28
Interesting timing that she just opened up to the press today about abuse she suffered as a child. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #19
Good Grief DallasNE Jul 2013 #21
It's not about good governance with these folks. It's about control. nt nyquil_man Jul 2013 #22
Accusations that SLED is corrupt begin in 5...4...3... GoCubsGo Jul 2013 #25
A lying teabag of right wing shit jpak Jul 2013 #26
Same all over. They know their rationale is cover to disenfranchise people. DirkGently Jul 2013 #27
only the honorable admit when they are wrong Skittles Jul 2013 #29
K&R. (nt) Kurovski Jul 2013 #30
The articles I read, those written when the accusations were made, had the okaawhatever Jul 2013 #31
This was an excuse to gut the voter rights act. JRLeft Jul 2013 #33

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
23. The state Attorney General
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 03:30 PM
Jul 2013

who happens to be the stepson of Joe "you lie!" Wilson, went on Fox and said that they had established as 'absolute fact' that dead people had voted in recent elections. An 18 month investigation said there were zero cases of that happening. In most cases, the person had voted absentee and then died before election day, or, the most likely reason was that a poll worker mistakenly checked off the dead Joe Blow Senior when it was Joe Junior who was voting. Of course, the AG hasn't been able to make a commet yet.
With the recent Supreme Court case, they won't even have to pretend that this is anything less than suppressing minority and Democratic voters.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
7. Amen graham4anything
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 12:49 PM
Jul 2013

Amen. . .

But I have no hope this woman will back track on her vile lies. Just like they never apologized for taking down ACORN when ACORN did nothing wrong.


NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
16. It wasn't just "they"
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 02:13 PM
Jul 2013

Democrats also gleefully piled on ACORN to defund them. The vote in the Senate was something like 91-7 to defund ACORN.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
18. Yes, it was based on O'Keefe's lies
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 02:20 PM
Jul 2013

but, Democrats capitulated without so much as a fight or even a call for an investigation first. (That was when I remember being impressed by Kirsten Gillibrand - she was one of the few who voted against.)

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
5. Clearly, making the claim of voter fraud.....
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 12:46 PM
Jul 2013

....was made to forward an agenda that had nothing to do with voter fraud.

POS liars!

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
6. Why is it not a crime when an elected official intentionally lies to their citizens?
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 12:48 PM
Jul 2013

It should be illegal, and they should be investigated, prosecuted, and forced to resign for it.

These people have got to be held accountable for their actions and their words. An apology is a good start, but it shouldn't end there.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
8. ... leaving Mitt Romney as America's only vote fraudster.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 12:54 PM
Jul 2013

Remember what I've been telling you kids? That Mitt Romney would prove himself to be one of the worst Presidential candidates ever if his tax and vote fraud charges followed him into the mid-term elections of 2014?

Well, here's our chance. There is a clear case of vote fraud out there. Unfortunately (for Republicans, not us), it was cast by a conservative former governor of a liberal state, from his son's unfinished basement.

Is it possible for the people of Massachusetts to open a civil case against Romney for voter fraud? Because if they can, Mass is going to be the cornerstone of the modern progressive movement and they just might be able to start undoing some of the damage done over the past four decades.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
9. I'm surprised they didn't have a Republican run the investigation....
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 12:55 PM
Jul 2013

And then throw dozens of innocent people in jail claiming they were proof that their claims were real.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
12. Lies, delusions, grift and fraud ... it's all the Cons have ...
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 01:29 PM
Jul 2013

THEY are the 'Zombie Voters', mindlessly pushing whatever button their overlords at Faux tell them to ... no matter how damaging to the country, and even themselves and their children.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
14. Meanwhile In Colorado - SOS Flags 155 As Possible
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 01:38 PM
Jul 2013

non-citizens who voted, after claiming it was widespread.

DENVER (AP) — The names of 155 suspected noncitizens who have cast ballots in Colorado elections are being sent to prosecutors, Secretary of State Scott Gessler said Monday, continuing a contentious debate between Gessler and critics who question the validity of his findings.

The voters are among 4,201 people who have received letters from Gessler, the state's elections chief, asking them to clarify their status since last summer in the lead-up to the 2012 contests. The 155 have voted in one or more past elections, and did not reply to the letters, Gessler's office said.

Gessler said he had "no choice but to refer these cases to law enforcement for investigation and prosecution."

Letters were sent to people who once showed proof of non-citizenship, such as a green card, when getting a driver's license and then later appeared on voter rolls. Gessler is also using a federal immigration database known as the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements. While it tracks who is a legal resident eligible to receive government benefits, the database was not designed to conduct voter citizenship checks, and critics say it's not error-free. http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Gessler-alerts-Colo-DAs-of-suspected-noncitizens-4641457.php

Some of those 155 are Republican's, but my guess this list of 155 all voted Democratic.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
15. Florida had a similar list.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 01:58 PM
Jul 2013

Thousands upon thousands that the GOP claimed were committing voter fraud. Upon closer examination, most of them were legally registerred. Some were dead people who hadn't been deleted from the voter rolls, but they hadn't voted. There were a handful of republicans and one democrat who had voted in two separate districts. And a non-resident Miami-Cuban who was mentally ill. So the grand total of voter fraud cases was less than 10...and most of them were republicans.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
20. I don't get why Democrats at Federal level aren't on this. Organized voter suppression>isn't that an
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 03:06 PM
Jul 2013

issue we could bludgeon the Republicans with?

Our right to vote is worth fighting for. Isn't it?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
24. That is one of the few good things AG Holder has done.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 04:01 PM
Jul 2013

He could be doing more, but at least he has taken some steps addressing voter suppression. The recent SCOTUS decision kind of makes what hes done irrelevent though. Otherwise, Holder has been disappointing....though obviously hes doing the job Obama wants.
I think much has to do with the state parties though. Dem Party of Florida much too concerned with keeping their spots at corporate feed trough and fighting off primary challenges from progressive Dems to be worried about voter suppression, election fraud, etc. Its a very dysfunctional party.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
28. I wonder if they ever examined Ann Coulter's
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 08:39 PM
Jul 2013

Voting history in FL. I recall reading that she voted in the wrong precinct.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
19. Interesting timing that she just opened up to the press today about abuse she suffered as a child.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 02:59 PM
Jul 2013

Not saying it's unimportant or not real, just curious timing on the public discussion of it.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
21. Good Grief
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 03:20 PM
Jul 2013

"those who are eligible to vote do vote"

Eligibility is determined at the time the person registers to vote. If eligibility is determined at the time of voting then there would be no reason to register voters in the first place. While the statement may make a good sound bite it has no merit whatsoever. The only thing a voter ID card can prevent is voter impersonation and what this study shows is that they could find no example where that happened. Even with Voter ID these 950 clerical errors would still exist. Besides, Voter ID's are often more out of date than the registration records because people move and reregister while the State will refuse to issue a new ID just because of a change of address within the State. This will force people to cast provisional ballots which seldom get counted meaning this is a direct disenfranchisement people that tend to move. There is simply no demonstrated upside to Voter ID laws.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
25. Accusations that SLED is corrupt begin in 5...4...3...
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 04:12 PM
Jul 2013

She and her toadies will find some way to weasel out of this, and find some way to pass the guilt off to someone else. It's what republicans do. And, all the crackers here will slurp up those lies, just like they have the original one. This doesn't mean shit. These imbeciles will likely re-elect her once her term is over, unless there's a coup by her own party. They'll make the same excuses for her that they did her predecessor.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
27. Same all over. They know their rationale is cover to disenfranchise people.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 08:29 PM
Jul 2013

Good to see them called on it. Again.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
31. The articles I read, those written when the accusations were made, had the
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 02:12 AM
Jul 2013

Senate Leader calling for the investigation. I think Ms. Haley has fallen out of favor with her own party, that may be why they're laying the blame at her feet.

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