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Galraedia

(5,026 posts)
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 10:35 PM Jul 2013

Florida Accidentally Banned All Computers, Smart Phones In The State Through Internet Cafe Ban

Source: Huffington Post

When Florida lawmakers recently voted to ban all Internet cafes, they worded the bill so poorly that they effectively outlawed every computer in the state, according to a recent lawsuit.

In April Florida Governor Rick Scott approved a ban on slot machines and Internet cafes after a charity tied to Lt. Governor Jennifer Carroll was shut down on suspicion of being an Internet gambling front -- forcing Carroll, who had consulted with the charity, to resign.

Florida's 1,000 Internet cafes were shut down immediately, including Miami-Dade's Incredible Investments, LLC, a café that provides online services to migrant workers, according to the Tampa Bay Times.

The owner, Consuelo Zapata, is now suing the state after her legal team found that the ban was so hastily worded that it can be applied to any computer or device connected to the Internet, according to a copy of the complaint obtained by The Miami Herald.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/08/florida-banned-computers_n_3561701.html

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Florida Accidentally Banned All Computers, Smart Phones In The State Through Internet Cafe Ban (Original Post) Galraedia Jul 2013 OP
classic! frylock Jul 2013 #1
Small government republicans. Awesome job shitbags. Ed Suspicious Jul 2013 #2
I'm sure that really pissed off the NSA! nt HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #3
Forget the NSA, how about NASA? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #22
If any of you are reading this in Florida right now, just go turn yourselves in. bluedigger Jul 2013 #4
from my cold, artheritis-wridden hands sigmasix Jul 2013 #16
Florida is bugs, humidity, and Tbaggers, try California and live a little! xtraxritical Jul 2013 #32
:D tofuandbeer Jul 2013 #30
For God's sake! Orrex Jul 2013 #5
Teh stupid! It hurts! sakabatou Jul 2013 #6
Someone paid a government to ban Internet Cafe's? Smart voters... jtuck004 Jul 2013 #7
What the hell do they have against internet cafes? nt naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #8
I wonder where Time Warner or Comcast or whatever other cable companies out there are based. I'm Ed Suspicious Jul 2013 #9
"Internet cafe" means something different than you think it does jmowreader Jul 2013 #19
Wow naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #20
You should care, in this case jmowreader Jul 2013 #24
So why has Florida decided to use a different definition of 'internet cafe' from the rest of us? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #37
It's not just Florida. jmowreader Jul 2013 #45
Well, gollleeee! Jerry442 Jul 2013 #10
Florida thelordofhell Jul 2013 #11
Floriduh Blue Owl Jul 2013 #12
Flordia trusty elf Jul 2013 #35
Heh heh -- is that near Portlandia? Blue Owl Jul 2013 #43
Isn't there some statute which forbids the government from taking things without paying for them? dickthegrouch Jul 2013 #13
That means paying your ISP bill is illegal RobertEarl Jul 2013 #14
Dumb! Like when NY banned police guns. Pterodactyl Jul 2013 #15
It's more like when Texas banned gay marriage but it included ALL marriage,...by accident. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #23
Yeah. That's government for ya. Incompetence with power. Pterodactyl Jul 2013 #46
Wow! Even just all internet cafes.. WTF! Cha Jul 2013 #17
Silly asshole Rick Scott ...putting people out of work. L0oniX Jul 2013 #42
I'm not from Florida and don't know the specifics of the wording, but let me guess... hughee99 Jul 2013 #18
You didn't do all that well, but that's okay jmowreader Jul 2013 #21
Bet if you ask the authors they'd say WMDs were found in Iraq. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #25
Signed by a man who deserves to be banned from public office. alp227 Jul 2013 #26
People running the state are scammers. All they do is steal Americans State and Federal money. Sunlei Jul 2013 #40
K&R DeSwiss Jul 2013 #27
Florida: Where the Phones are Smarter than the GOP! . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #28
And We Thought Counting was their only problem. nm LeFleur1 Jul 2013 #31
Ah, government. Always solving the wrong problem. SwankyXomb Jul 2013 #29
You just couldn't help yourself, could you? Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #33
Of course they didn't forget to add this: Incitatus Jul 2013 #34
yahoo comments suddenly went silent Tunkamerica Jul 2013 #36
They claim they support small businesses. Conium Jul 2013 #38
I find it absolutely funny that Jennifer Carol has 'disappeared' herself JCMach1 Jul 2013 #39
Rick Scott = 1 term sociopath ...and they should throw out incompetent Pam Bondi too. L0oniX Jul 2013 #41
Sounds like the same bunch of geniuses that accidentally outlawed the 10 commandments... truebrit71 Jul 2013 #44

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
4. If any of you are reading this in Florida right now, just go turn yourselves in.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 10:43 PM
Jul 2013

There's no point in waiting for them to come get you.

sigmasix

(794 posts)
16. from my cold, artheritis-wridden hands
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 11:14 PM
Jul 2013

So the teabagger governor of my state is attacking the 1st amendment rights of every floridian. What a surprise, given that Scott is the poster-boy for The destruction of American liberties and the collusion of private criminally wealthy groups with state and local Teabagger politicians and their owners. all in efforts to sell-off the remaining common spaces and greenways in America, owned by the people.
I moved from Indiana to Michigan because of the right wing teabagger control of indiana politics, then Michigan acquired an even worse Governor, we moved as soon as he staryed jacking up home owner taxes while slashing taxes for the rich and signing off on abatements for the biggest republican donors from out of state. Now we live in florida due to health reasons, but the ODS is strong among the teabagger rank and file in Florida so we often see the worst of the worst out of the governor's office and his operatives.

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
5. For God's sake!
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 10:43 PM
Jul 2013

I hope that they included a special exemption to allow continued use of computerized ultrasound equipment for the humiliation of women!

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
9. I wonder where Time Warner or Comcast or whatever other cable companies out there are based. I'm
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 10:55 PM
Jul 2013

betting they had something to do with it.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
19. "Internet cafe" means something different than you think it does
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 11:18 PM
Jul 2013

These Internet cafes are actually casinos. The owners sell people Internet time or phone cards that come with "entries" in Internet sweepstakes; the "entries" are used to gamble at computers owned by the shop.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
24. You should care, in this case
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 11:29 PM
Jul 2013

Because these things are completely uncontrolled, they're famous for ripping people off even worse than casinos normally do.

And that's the big problem: when one goes to a casino, one has the right to expect the game not to be rigged and to receive any monies one may accidentally win. The Internet cafes don't do that.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
37. So why has Florida decided to use a different definition of 'internet cafe' from the rest of us?
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 06:02 AM
Jul 2013

Couldn't they have come up with a different phrase?

Thanks for explaining it - it's a shame Huff Post didn't do that as part of their basic journalism.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
45. It's not just Florida.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 01:31 PM
Jul 2013

These things are popping up in every state that has an insufficient supply of real casinos. In Idaho these are still legal, so far as I know, but no one's tried opening one because they'd go broke. There are three tribal casinos in North Idaho - the Kootenai tribe has one in Bonners Ferry, the Coeur d'Alenes have one in Worley and the Nez Perce have one in Lewiston. There are probably casinos in south Idaho but am not sure. Washington is thick with casinos, and non-Indians can open card rooms there. Montana is a casino state. And Nevada is right on our southern border. It's in the Bible Belt where these cause problems.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
10. Well, gollleeee!
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 10:55 PM
Jul 2013

"You mean we cain't just write a law that says people should stop doing ornery stuff, you all know what we mean? Got to have de-tails?"

dickthegrouch

(3,174 posts)
13. Isn't there some statute which forbids the government from taking things without paying for them?
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 11:11 PM
Jul 2013

If the government took away my internet cafe, I'd sue for restitution of the value of the property (hint).

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
14. That means paying your ISP bill is illegal
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 11:11 PM
Jul 2013

You could be put in jail for paying your bill. DON"T PAY!

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
18. I'm not from Florida and don't know the specifics of the wording, but let me guess...
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 11:17 PM
Jul 2013

There was a somewhat minor "moral" issue (like gambling) that was tangentially tied to internet cafes. To fix "the problem" they outlawed internet cafes, and were in such a hurry to do it (because a few people gambling is such a critical thing to address) that they half-assed the language, which is only to be expected when cavemen are trying to legislate a technology they don't understand at all.

Anyone who is familiar with this issue, how'd I do?

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
21. You didn't do all that well, but that's okay
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 11:22 PM
Jul 2013

Florida doesn't allow casinos. The owners were running casinos and calling them Internet cafes. There is a way to ban the casino kind of Internet cafe while allowing the other kind, if you know how to write a bill. Unfortunately, I'm not sure a Republican can write his name on a blackboard much less write a whole piece of legislation.

alp227

(32,029 posts)
26. Signed by a man who deserves to be banned from public office.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 11:46 PM
Jul 2013

See the Medicare fraud case involving the health care corporation he led back in the '90s.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
40. People running the state are scammers. All they do is steal Americans State and Federal money.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:52 AM
Jul 2013

We could have had a nice healthcare system by now if it wasn't for all the political scammers squandering Americas money for their personal. private ventures.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
34. Of course they didn't forget to add this:
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 01:33 AM
Jul 2013

"revising conditions for exceptions to prohibitions on lotteries"

http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2013/0155/BillText/er/PDF

You can gamble away all you want as long as the government is the house that takes the winnings.

JCMach1

(27,559 posts)
39. I find it absolutely funny that Jennifer Carol has 'disappeared' herself
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 09:08 AM
Jul 2013

and hasn't been seen since... completely gone...

on edit I take that back... the douche now has a job with the defense industry (not joking)...

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
44. Sounds like the same bunch of geniuses that accidentally outlawed the 10 commandments...
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 12:31 PM
Jul 2013

...in their attempt to ban sharia law in Oklahoma...

Gotta love when the law of unintended consequences bites these dipshits on the arse..

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