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alp227

(32,050 posts)
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:26 PM Jul 2013

Citizen patrols to be 'eyes and ears' on Lake school campuses

Source: Orlando Sentinel

They'll be clad in blue shirts, khaki hats, armed with identification badges and trained to be on the lookout for everything from potential lunchroom brawls to irate parents storming onto campus.

After months of closed-door discussions about how to improve campus security in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School killings, Lake County School Board members decided one way to make schools safer is to put blue-shirted citizen-patrol volunteers on campus.

The program, to debut in elementary schools next month, aims to give campus administrators and school deputies and "extra set of eyes and ears," says Reginald Young, Lake school's security services manager. Although volunteers won't have discipline powers or the authority to detain students, their vigilance and reporting will be key.

"Observe and report," Young said. "That's key on our campus. Being able to identify if there's someone out there lurking on the curbage of the school or if there's an irate individual coming onto campus."

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Citizen patrols to be 'eyes and ears' on Lake school campuses (Original Post) alp227 Jul 2013 OP
Apparently they have no fear of a Zimmerman situation? dixiegrrrrl Jul 2013 #1
In this scenario, they're the Zimmermans. SwankyXomb Jul 2013 #8
curbage lurking will not be tolerated. GreatCaesarsGhost Jul 2013 #2
Chiang Kai-shek's fascist organization was called the "Blue Shirt Society." alfredo Jul 2013 #3
Great. . .informants. I smell kids running to these idiots and lying the way they do to teachers Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #4
Blue. Brown. It's still a Nazi move Android3.14 Jul 2013 #5
What about FrodosPet Jul 2013 #7
Slippery slope Android3.14 Jul 2013 #13
It's a no win situation FrodosPet Jul 2013 #14
That's easy Android3.14 Jul 2013 #15
Is this that Florida ISD where they were scanning students' irises into a Corporate database w/o blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #6
yes alp227 Jul 2013 #9
Totalitarianism and authoritarianism are all the rage today! TM99 Jul 2013 #10
Sounds more like a citoyen patrol. tanyev Jul 2013 #11
Let's not put more money into schools to make them better and the kids better... onehandle Jul 2013 #12
Could this be another Zimmerman incident Duckwraps Jul 2013 #16
Florida, right? mikehiggins Jul 2013 #17
 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
4. Great. . .informants. I smell kids running to these idiots and lying the way they do to teachers
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 11:14 PM
Jul 2013

"Teacher, Jimmy just said he is going to beat up Johnny."

"Yes, Teacher, we all heard it."

Jimmy now has to prove he didn't say it, even when all Jimmy did was eat his lunch. . .just because the students don't like Jimmy and bully him.

These blue-shirt volunteers will not know the dynamics of the school and the students, so if they get this reported to them, they will run to the principal immediately.

BAD IDEA!!!!

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
5. Blue. Brown. It's still a Nazi move
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 11:17 PM
Jul 2013

That is fricken' scary.
It's far past time to be saying, No. Fuck, no.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
14. It's a no win situation
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:29 AM
Jul 2013

I would say nowadays you need security in the schools to help prevent violence, but then, where I was going to High School in the late 1970s, students were stabbing and shooting each other. It was just never a mass casualty thing, but one definitely went to school in fear.

We could say "put more sworn officers in the schools", but police can be authoritarian a-holes who have the force of law behind them.

So what can the schools do to keep kids safe without turning the schools into a police state?

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
15. That's easy
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 11:38 AM
Jul 2013

Perhaps we could start out by declining to pretend students are in more danger in schools than they are, say, in the bathroom at home.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
6. Is this that Florida ISD where they were scanning students' irises into a Corporate database w/o
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 12:56 AM
Jul 2013

parental consent??

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
10. Totalitarianism and authoritarianism are all the rage today!
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 03:29 AM
Jul 2013

This is sad and scary on so many levels, because we all know absolutely nothing untoward will ever occur with such a system in place.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
12. Let's not put more money into schools to make them better and the kids better...
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 09:14 AM
Jul 2013

...let's treat schools like prisons and get them used to their more probable future... prison.

 

Duckwraps

(206 posts)
16. Could this be another Zimmerman incident
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 12:00 PM
Jul 2013

waiting to happen? I hope these folks are thoroughly screened and given background checks. We also don't want a pedophile sneaking in among them.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
17. Florida, right?
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 12:59 PM
Jul 2013

A poster below raises the possibility that pedophiles, et al, could wind up on the patrol. Well, of course. Who else is going to have the time and energy to go into schools and try to keep "eyes and ears" on a herd of kids? Not that it'd be limited to pedos. There are also drug pushers, authoritarian freaks and a whole list of anti-social, destructive types that would just love to be put in any sort of position of authority over kids.

Guaranteed. If this goes into practice it won't even take two years to hear about 4th graders being pimped out by these clowns.

But we are talking about FLorida. They would probably stick the kids in a for-profit jail where they can learn some new trades.

I fear for the republic...but I don't know if that includes Fla

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