African Union likely to suspend Egypt from all activities following unconstitutional power change

[dipsydoodle]

Source: Reuters

African Union likely to suspend Egypt from all activities after unconstitutional power change

Read more: http://live.reuters.com/Event/World_News/81054827

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Just breaking - will update as and when.

26 minutes ago on Guardian live link : Coup or revolution?

The Turkish foreign minister, Ahmet Davutoğlu, has described the military's intervention as "unacceptable" and a "military coup".

Reuters quoted him saying:

Only can you be removed from duty through elections, that is, the will of the people. It is unacceptable for a government, which has come to power through democratic elections, to be toppled through illicit means and, even more, a military coup.

The African Union could suspended Egypt's membership, Reuters added, citing an AU source.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/04/egypt-revolution-new-president-live-updates

[panzerfaust]

1. Where were they when we had our unconstitutional power change in 2000/1?

An angry mob of conservatives staged a riot inside a Miami-Dade County polling office and managed to shut down the most crucial Bush v. Gore recount in the country.

It was later discovered that some of these individuals were on the Bush recount committee’s payroll. They were just a few of “at least 750” Republican operatives flown in from around the country on the GOP’s dollar.

Although originally described as a spontaneous uprising, it soon became clear that the recount riot was organized by then-Congressman John Sweeney (R-NY), who had issued the order to “shut it down.”
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[burnodo]

2. Didn't Morsi write up the constitution after he was elected?

A constitution designed to entrench the Muslim Brotherhood?

[Renew Deal]

4. Yes

Though it was "approved"

[Lasher]

7. It passed by 63% of the vote.

with about 32% of the electorate voting.

[starroute]

6. And he made his decrees exempt from judicial oversight

Being elected democratically is no mandate for governing like a dictator. And Morsi was elected by only 51% in a run-off election where his opponent was a remnant of the old regime. His actual support in the country was more like 25%, and he's alienated a lot of those by his failure to live up to his promises and his neglect of the economy and tourism.

It's a real shame that the army is the only institution in Egypt with the power to step in -- and also that they seem to have felt it was necessary to remove Morsi from power and arrest the most extreme of his MB supporters in order to prevent civil war. But it may turn out to be the cleanest path out of a very difficult situation.

[merrily]

10. Deleted. Wrong spot.

[merrily]

8. the Constitution we wrote for Iraq incorporated all of sharia by reference.

Egypt never had a democratic election before. Someone had to write the Constitution.

I don't know if he entrenched Sharia or the Brotherhood.

But, he did not make a secret of being a member of the Brotherhood when Egyptians elected him. As far as we know, that was a fair election, with impartial observers, etc.

ETA: The above post is wrong. Please see Reply 11.

[merrily]

11. Oops. No, Morsi did not write the Constitution at all.

The military wrote a provisional Constitution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Provisional_Constitution_of_Egypt

Then....

The Constitution of the Arab Republic of Egypt was the fundamental law of Egypt. It was signed into law by President Mohamed Morsi on 26 December 2012, after it was approved by the Constituent Assembly on 30 November 2012 and passed in a referendum held 15–22 December 2012 with 64% support, and a turnout of 33%.[1] It replaced the 2011 Provisional Constitution of Egypt, adopted in 2011 following the Egyptian revolution. On 3 July 2013, the constitution was suspended by order of the Egyptian army.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Egypt

I usually try to remember to check before responding.

[burnodo]

12. Thanks for the info!

Nt

[Iliyah]

3. Same with the tea brat movement which is

paid for by corporations and do not represent majority of America. I don't know about Egypt's Constitution.

[usGovOwesUs3Trillion]

5. Yeah, I can't say that I am onboard with the military deciding everything

As usual

[merrily]

9. We train Egyptians at West Point to lead the Egyptian military.

We heard that over and over on talk shows and news shows during the Egyptian spring. Some talking head would feed some U.S. general or ther a line like "The Egyptian military is showing great restraint." And the general would tell us that we train them at West Point, and we stay in communication with them and we are able to have some influence over them.

So, all this is unsettling, IMO.