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pinto

(106,886 posts)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 07:14 PM Jul 2013

EGYPT CRISIS:Two top figures in Muslim Brotherhood arrested hours after President Morsi deposed

Source: BBC

EGYPT CRISIS:Two top figures in Muslim Brotherhood arrested hours after President Morsi deposed by army, officials say

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Heard that the #1 and #2 Muslim Brotherhood leaders have been arrested by Egyptian military on CNN, as well. Obviously the situation is fluid and rapidly changing.
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jessie04

(1,528 posts)
1. 2 real "winners"
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 07:26 PM
Jul 2013

Saad al-Katatni and Rashad al-Bayoumi were the religious force behind Morsi.

These guys are anti-democratic freedoms and wanted women and Christians to know their place.

These guys are knuckle-scrapers. Good Riddance assholes.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
2. Extreme Islamists, for sure. And as you say the force behind Morsi. Yet, "knuckle scrapers"
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jul 2013

is unnecessarily dehumanizing, imo. Rhetoric like this helps no one. It just fuels emotional reactions and does little to further any kind of resolution.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
4. It's how I'd describe Sanctorum, Perry and DeMint. They'd call me a baby killer.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 07:38 PM
Jul 2013

And godless scum by the right, who these guys are representative of there. I get your point, but the incivility didn't start with the liberals.

And it's dehumanizing because it means they are not evolved from primates who drag their knuckles. In their behalf, the human race should apologize.

 

jessie04

(1,528 posts)
5. I want resolution.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 07:39 PM
Jul 2013

And it just started today.

Hmmm....why do you think Saad al-Katatni and Rashad al-Bayoumi were arrested?

Why did the military go after these guys in particular?

pinto

(106,886 posts)
7. I guess because they saw them as the proponents of Morsi's increasingly autocratic approach.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 07:43 PM
Jul 2013

And, more bluntly, because they could.

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
16. Looks like they will be released pending an investigation
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 02:06 PM
Jul 2013

Friday, July 05, 2013 1:55:11 PM RTRS - EGYPT PUBLIC PROSECUTOR ORDERS RELEASE OF TOP BROTHERHOOD POLITICIANS KATATNI AND BAYOUMI PENDING INVESTIGATIONS - STATE NEWS AGENCY
by Megan McCarthy 12:55 PM

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
3. Al-Jazeera Egypt arrested on air an hour ago
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 07:38 PM
Jul 2013

according to a Pacifica live report from Cairo ... looking for a link

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
6. US State Dept urges US citizens to leave Egypt
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 07:39 PM
Jul 2013

per NYT per same source as above, live Pacifica report

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
10. Obama urges return of civilian government in Egypt
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 07:54 PM
Jul 2013

By Associated Press, Updated: Wednesday, July 3, 4:30 PM


WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama urged Egypt’s military Wednesday to hand back control to a democratic, civilian government without delay, but stopped short of calling the ouster of President Mohammed Morsi a coup d’etat.

In a carefully worded statement, Obama said he was “deeply concerned” by the military’s move to topple Morsi’s government and suspend Egypt’s constitution. He said he was ordering the U.S. government to assess what the military’s actions meant for U.S. foreign aid to Egypt.

Under U.S. law, the government must suspend foreign aid to any nation whose elected leader is ousted in a coup d’etat. The U.S. provides $1.5 billion a year to Egypt in military and economic assistance that is considered a critical U.S. national security priority.

“I now call on the Egyptian military to move quickly and responsibly to return full authority back to a democratically elected civilian government as soon as possible through an inclusive and transparent process, and to avoid any arbitrary arrests of President Morsi and his supporters,” Obama said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-secretary-hagel-calls-egyptian-defense-minister-as-deadline-on-military-coup-nears/2013/07/03/d93aa4f0-e3fc-11e2-bffd-37a36ddab820_story.html

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
11. Thanks for the link. Now we can see what's wrong. Why go after the press?
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 12:59 AM
Jul 2013

I questioned the military taking over - I wasn't sure it was.

Civil government is in chaos because the extreme right pushed people to the limit. Which is what the right wants here.

Some people think that is a good outcome and call for revolution over every single thing they don't like - but that millions do. tt gives opportunists the chance to reset the field in their favor and oppress more.

Watching Egypt should be a lesson, but we should not interfere. And we are not doing so, just urging more freedom for the people, both men and women. There are so many powerful forces in this world poised to take control and effect their barbaric measure on us all.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
13. It's hard to keep track of who the good guys are in this story.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:02 AM
Jul 2013

Especially since there are always invisible hands interfering in Egyptian govt. I didn't support the "revolution" that removed Mubarak, but for better or worse Morsi was elected, and I don't see much good in this coup either. Clearly there's no democracy if armed forces have no respect for elections or duly elected officials.

On the other hand, Al Jazeera English is aligned with the BBC, and was the main conduit of English "Arab Spring" propaganda, and Morsi has close ties to the US, having studied here and taught at Cal State Northridge. So it's possible the Egyptian army is rooting out foreign infiltrators in the interest of Egyptian nationalism.

But if that was the case, I don't think they'd be using Islamism as the stick to beat them with. So the long and short of it is I'm not entirely sure what's going on or who's behind it.


p.s. have a great 4th freshwest!

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
14. Egypt's military issues arrest warrants for Muslim Brotherhood Up to 300 members sought
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:57 AM
Jul 2013

Egypt's military issues arrest warrants for Muslim Brotherhood
Up to 300 members sought as Adli Mansour is sworn in as interim of head of state

Egypt's new military rulers have issued arrest warrants for up to 300 members of the Muslim Brotherhood hours after ousting elected president Mohamed Morsi and taking him and his aides into military custody.

The morning after a momentous night in Cairo has revealed the full extent of the military overthrow, with key support bases of the Muslim Brotherhood, including television stations, closed down, or raided. A focal point for Morsi's supporters in the east of the city was also approached by troops, who fired into the air near angry Brotherhood members on Wednesday night.

The dramatic events have been welcomed by many in the capital, where most state institutions, including the security establishment, had steadily abandoned Morsi since Sunday.

Adli Mansour, the head of the constitutional court, was sworn in as interim head of state on Thursday.

More:http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/04/egypt-military-arrest-warrants-muslim-brotherhood

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