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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 06:52 PM Jul 2013

Obama Suggests Spying On Nations' Allies Is Common

Source: Associated Press

By TOM RAUM
1 hour ago • Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama brushed aside sharp European criticism on Monday, suggesting that all nations spy on each other as the French and Germans expressed outrage over alleged U.S. eavesdropping on European Union diplomats. American analyst-turned-leaker Edward Snowden, believed to still be at Moscow's international airport, applied for political asylum to remain in Russia.

Russian President Vladimir Putin, in a statement he acknowledged sounded odd, told reporters in Moscow that Snowden would have to stop leaking U.S. secrets if he wanted asylum in Russia - and he added that Snowden seemed unwilling to stop publishing leaks of classified material. At the same time, Putin said that he had no plans to turn over Snowden to the United States.

Obama, in an African news conference with Tanzanian President Jakaya Kikwete, said the U.S. would provide allies with information about new reports that the National Security Agency had bugged EU offices in Washington, New York and Brussels. But he also suggested such activity by governments would hardly be unusual.

"We should stipulate that every intelligence service -not just ours, but every European intelligence service, every Asian intelligence service, wherever there's an intelligence service - here's one thing that they're going to be doing: They're going to be trying to understand the world better, and what's going on in world capitals around the world," he said. "If that weren't the case, then there'd be no use for an intelligence service."

Read more: http://dailyjournalonline.com/news/tech/putin-snowden-must-stop-leaking-secrets-to-stay/article_7667dcba-ff45-5295-962c-4134d199e88d.html

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Obama Suggests Spying On Nations' Allies Is Common (Original Post) Purveyor Jul 2013 OP
I am Shocked warrant46 Jul 2013 #1
It probably is. Gore1FL Jul 2013 #2
Touche GF1FL, exactly! Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #4
+100 thelordofhell Jul 2013 #5
Barack, get a frigging clue.... Swede Atlanta Jul 2013 #3
You're conflating two different issues. He was specifically discussing the recent revelations pnwmom Jul 2013 #6
But the two issues do go hand in hand. dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #8
Not when it involves things like providing China with info of US efforts into cstanleytech Jul 2013 #11
I am shocked, I tell you, shocked! that international relations are going on here! Hekate Jul 2013 #7
And a Nation spying on its own citizens is likely also NorthCarolina Jul 2013 #9
Oh but it is OK and 'dandy' when our people are in office. eom Purveyor Jul 2013 #10
and if it's NOT ok with you (at this point in time), then NorthCarolina Jul 2013 #12
That is what we are being told. Decisions, decisions. eom Purveyor Jul 2013 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #14
 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
4. Touche GF1FL, exactly!
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jul 2013

This stuff has been going on through out history. Build a bigger mouse trap build a bigger mouse.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
3. Barack, get a frigging clue....
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:03 PM
Jul 2013

Yes, we all "spy" on one another to some extent. I think that allies spend less money spying on one another than others but I accept that.

The problem, Mr. President, is that you have continued a program that amasses enormous amounts of data on innocent civilians in the name of the bogey man. It is pure bullshit and you Barack know that. But you are so enamored with your presidential power you probably get of on that. This extra-constitutional exercise of your power is not worth it. Stop it now.

Trust me your legacy as the first black president is going in the toilet daily with all of the revelations including the latest one on trying to fast-track screwing American workers to benefit your corporate paymasters with Asia. We are on to you.

Trust me...I would rather BO is dictator than Mittens Robme but a dictator is a dictator.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
6. You're conflating two different issues. He was specifically discussing the recent revelations
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:15 PM
Jul 2013

of our spying agencies spying on other countries -- not whatever surveillance is going on in the US.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
11. Not when it involves things like providing China with info of US efforts into
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 09:07 PM
Jul 2013

penetrating computers in China it doesnt which Snowden has admitted to doing.
By revealing that information he stepped over the line of being a simple whistleblower (imo).

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
9. And a Nation spying on its own citizens is likely also
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 08:42 PM
Jul 2013

considered "common". Well, common at least in third-world countries with dictators and the like, so I guess the US is in good company there.

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