Infamous member of New Black Panthers arrested in New York

[struggle4progress]

Source: Daily News via Philadelphia Inquirer

BY DANA DiFILIPPO & STEPHANIE FARR
Daily News Staff Writers
Posted: June 27, 2013

... Shabazz, 41, whose real name is Maruse Heath, is best known for sparking a federal probe for voter intimidation after he brought a billy club to a North Philly polling place on Election Day 2008.

But on Thursday night, police in New York say they spotted him wearing a bulletproof vest in Harlem, stopped him and found him carrying a loaded, unlicensed handgun. He was jailed on $75,000 bail on charges of illegal gun possession and the illegal wearing of body armor ...

Oren Segal, director of the Anti-Defamation League's Center on Extremism, said Shabazz is one of the more outspoken of the New Black Panthers, a group Segal said is the most "militant, anti-Semitic African-American organization in the country."

"It's something to say if you look at the entirety of its membership that King Shabazz is one of the most vile in his language," Segal said. "But as absurd and offensive as his language is, he has every right to say what he thinks. However, when you unlawfully possess a weapon, that is illegal and then you're going to get in trouble" ...



Read more: http://articles.philly.com/2013-06-27/news/40208598_1_new-black-panther-party-million-youth-march-north-philly

[jtuck004]

1. >illegal wearing of body armor.< Huh? A fashion felony? n/t

[PuffedMica]

5. Prohibiting body armor does raise a level of concern

Since when does the Government get to make it illegal for a citizen to do something passive that protects their life? It is like the Government is using the law to give the police the power to kill citizens.

[geek tragedy]

13. People who wear body armor typically intend to shoot at other people nt

[Comrade Grumpy]

39. Like those school kids with their kevlar-lined backpacks?

I wonder if those are illegal in NYC.

[geek tragedy]

40. Yeah, totally the same thing. nt

[PuffedMica]

48. People who buy matches are typically arsonists n/t

[Ter]

24. That's why I've always said the far left is just as bad as the far right

Banning bulletproof vests, plastic bags, Happy Meals, and large sodas is just nuts.

[geek tragedy]

28. Who has use for a bulletproof vest? nt

[premium]

31. Law Enforcement, Military,

private security, to name a few.
Not sure how I feel about the general public's access to them.

[geek tragedy]

32. Only other profession I can think of that uses them is bank robbers. nt

[premium]

33. How about those that carry large amounts of cash

for deposit at the end of the business day? Or business owners in high crime areas? Or in the diamond district of NY?

[geek tragedy]

34. I haven't observed it--if someone's going to shoot you over cash, they're going

to do it in the head.

[premium]

35. Maybe, maybe not,

nothing wrong with having the xtra protection.

[geek tragedy]

36. Sure, but I think private security would be handling most

of those scenarios.

[premium]

38. Possible,

like I said, I'm just not sure where I stand on private ownership of Bullet Resistant Vests.
That's another thing, they're not bullet proof vests, they won't stop a typical rifle round, nor do they protect against a knife attact, they're designed to stop your typical handgun round.

[Ter]

43. None of the government's business

It doesn't harm anyone.

[PuffedMica]

54. Fred Hampton

[Comrade Grumpy]

41. Who is the "far left" here? Bloomberg? I don't usually hear him described that way.

Nanny-stater, perhaps.

[MADem]

7. When you're carrying an unlicensed gun, it's probably not a good idea to provoke inquiry

in that 'fashion.'

He's no relation to Malcolm's widow, I trust.

[Earth_First]

2. I never knew it was illegal to possess bullet proof vests...

I just figured it was something any paranoid individual with a couple hundred could purchase.

[struggle4progress]

4. it may depend on local or state law.

[melm00se]

11. if he was carrying

a concealed weapon that would be a crime and according to the PA criminal code, possession of body armor would also be a crime:

§ 907. Possessing instruments of crime.
(c) Unlawful body armor.--A person commits a felony of the
third degree if in the course of the commission of a felony or
in the attempt to commit a felony he uses or wears body armor or
has in his control, custody or possession any body armor.

the wording hinges on if he is charged with felony possession of a firearm

[premium]

14. He was arrested in NY. nt.

[melm00se]

44. NY law is similar

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/PEN/THREE/P/270/270.20

[premium]

46. Yep,

so if he's convicted, the penalties will probably be similar.

[premium]

47. Here in Nevada,

anyone can walk into a gun store, plop down the money, put it on, strap on a gun and holster and walk down the street, perfectly legal, don't even need a permit to open carry.

[unterrified democrat]

3. Will the NRA be rushing in

to defend his right to bear arms?

[think]

10. +1

[Hoyt]

51. LMAO.

[Judi Lynn]

6. The racists at whom you want to point your pudgy Cheetos-stained fingers at

are the Republicans in public "service" who have been busy trying to destroy voting rights of minority human beings in the U.S.

Please don't even consider trying to prepare a stage for idiot race-baiting, howling, gibbering from right-wing racist lunatics who have moved into D.U. to stay for the rest of their meaningless lives.

Pointless and bizarre through the eyes of someone who watched fools trying to spread around panic concerning groups of dissidents in the 1960's. The people have far better things with their time than to cultivate grudges and hatreds toward new groups of people about whom they know nothing.

[MADem]

8. Why are you being so offensive towards the OP for simply posting an article?

....pudgy Cheetos-stained fingers? REALLY?

And the rest of your post? It's just accusatory nastiness.

Damn. You might want to check your own shitty conduct before you start accusing people of preparing a stage for "...lunatics who have moved into D.U. to stay for the rest of their meaningless lives."

You should stop telling people what to do--you come off like a bully. Respond to the article, don't make bogus accusations about people.

Unreal.

[Earth_First]

12. +1

Thank you for saying that.

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15. Thanks.

IMO, he's just as bad as any member of the KKK, racist is racist, no matter what color the skin.
I do support his right to say what he wants, however vile and racist it is, I don't support him or his group, or any group for that matter, to actually harm other people.

[840high]

29. Thank you.

[Lasher]

9. You realize the New Black Panters is a racist hate group, right?

[premium]

16. They're just as bad as the KKK, The Aryan Brotherhood. nt.

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[maddezmom]

17. Yup

Can't believe anyone would be defending this dude.

[premium]

22. I tried listening to one of his speeches one day,

couldn't listen for more than a couple minutes before I had to turn it off and go take a shower to get the stench of hatred off of me.
You're right, I don't see how anyone with 1/2 a brain can even defend this racist.

[Comrade Grumpy]

37. I'm not sure why you lump these groups together.

The KKK, Aryan Brotherhood, New Black Panthers are racist political formations.

The Crips, the Bloods, and the MS-13 are ethnically-based criminal gangs, with no politics as far as I know.

[premium]

42. You're right,

I got to thinking about that when I wrote it and was going to edit the post, but then got sidetracked on something else, (old age does that, wait, what were we talking about? ).
While I can still remember, I'll go ahead and edit it now.
Have a great day.

[Ash_F]

50. KKK and AB have a waaaaay bigger following though.

And I'm not familiar with any killings in connection with NBPP, while there are many with the other two.

Not saying they aren't just as bigoted. Give Black folks some credit though.

[premium]

20. The Southern Proverty Law Center,

headed by Morris Dees, has listed the New Black Panther Party as a hate group.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map#s=PA


New Black Panther Party

Black Separatist

Philadelphia

[struggle4progress]

25. (1) I don't even like Cheetos

(2) Following my general rule-of-thumb, I probably wouldn't have posted this story, given all the crazy wingnut howling about the NBPP in the Duke Lacrosse case and in the 2008 elections -- but somebody else mentioned NBPP in a thread I was reading, I started to do some follow-up research, and accidentally hit the this as current news

(3) I don't like NBPP, but they're a tiny little group of crazies: they have nothing whatsoever to do with the original BPP, as far as I can tell, and IMO they usually don't deserve too much attention

(4) OTOH this is a story about yet another crazy with a gun -- a subject we in the US maybe should be paying more attention to, given the more or less constant senseless gun slaughter

(5) So, on balance, I thought it might be a reasonable LBN post that DUers would find informative

(6) I'm glad you're concerned about the new and frightening covert attack on voting rights, cuz I am too: I've spent hours and hours phone-banking in recent weeks trying to beat back the wackos Republicans voter suppression bills in the NC legislature

[hughee99]

27. Yes, all the racists republicans running New York City are to blame for this! n/t

[struggle4progress]

30. I should add, off-topic, that whether or not you like my posts, I have often found yours to be

very helpful: you've been a regular and energetic poster here for years, and I frequently appreciate your selection of material related to international news and politics

So, whether or not we always agree completely on everything, I hope you keep up the good work

[WilliamPitt]

18. I love "infamous" labels for people no one has ever heard of.

[geek tragedy]

19. Everyone on Fox News has heard of the NBPP, also Congressional Republicans hyped them nt

[WilliamPitt]

21. Like I said

[Lasher]

26. I'd heard of them.

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So had The Anti-Defamation League, The Southern Poverty Law Center, and The US Commission on Civil Rights.

[premium]

23. When that Philly incident happened,

Fox wasn't the only one to report it, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, plus all of our local news station did the story.

[Gregorian]

45. Karl Rove still walks a free man.

[Ken Burch]

49. How DARE any black man wear body armor and make it HARDER for the NYPD to kill him? The noive!

(note...I don't actually like the NBPP any more than you do, struggle...I just think it's kind of silly that THIS is what they nailed the guy on.)

[Pterodactyl]

52. Good thing they caught him before he had a chance to use that gun.

[Ian David]

53. With him in jail, they now need one more New Black Panther to play Couple's Tennis. n/t

[WhataKnight]

55. If he was a white guy

walking through a southern city wearing body armor would everyone on this board give him a pass? Probably not, you would say he is some right wing nut job and you would probably be right. Well this guy is no different because he was black, he is a nut job all the same. Oh and lets not overlook the fact he was carrying a gun with him. The guy is a racist who wants to kill "everything white." Sorry if I don't jump on the defense bandwagon here.