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KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:18 PM Jun 2013

Russ Tice, Bush-Era Whistleblower, Claims NSA Ordered Wiretap Of Barack Obama In 2004

Source: HuffPo

Russ Tice, a former intelligence analyst who in 2005 blew the whistle on what he alleged was massive unconstitutional domestic spying across multiple agencies, claimed Wednesday that the NSA had ordered wiretaps on phones connected to then-Senate candidate Barack Obama in 2004.

Speaking on "The Boiling Frogs Show," Tice claimed the intelligence community had ordered surveillance on a wide range of groups and individuals, including high-ranking military officials, lawmakers and diplomats.

"Here's the big one ... this was in summer of 2004, one of the papers that I held in my hand was to wiretap a bunch of numbers associated with a 40-something-year-old wannabe senator for Illinois," he said. "You wouldn't happen to know where that guy lives right now would you? It's a big white house in Washington, D.C. That's who they went after, and that's the president of the United States now."


Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/20/russ-tice-nsa-obama_n_3473538.html
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Russ Tice, Bush-Era Whistleblower, Claims NSA Ordered Wiretap Of Barack Obama In 2004 (Original Post) KurtNYC Jun 2013 OP
It was done to keep us safe RobertEarl Jun 2013 #1
He was pal'in around with those Acorn terrorists. reusrename Jun 2013 #30
Good thing he had nothing to hide... nt Pholus Jun 2013 #2
It's OK he had nothing to hide. bahrbearian Jun 2013 #3
It is not OK avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #31
There it is. Octafish Jun 2013 #4
I wonder if this is actually true. nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #5
Me too. But I would suggest someone sends the info to the WH Amonester Jun 2013 #6
Gotta wonder how that makes the whole family feel ... Myrina Jun 2013 #7
They got paid for the privilege Demeter Jun 2013 #9
"if the Secret Service isn't corrupt".. let's ask jfk ... oh that's right leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #20
Bing! Bing! Bing! You are a Winner! Demeter Jun 2013 #26
It' sop for repubs. notadmblnd Jun 2013 #8
And still a lot of people still believe that the NSA's massive spying capabilities won't be TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #10
And we wonder why Obama doesnt fight back more often DJ13 Jun 2013 #11
has the BOG crafted a statement yet? frylock Jun 2013 #12
I'm sure they're waiting for an official TPM Hydra Jun 2013 #14
"Big Brother is watching you..." n/t Hydra Jun 2013 #13
I guess Nixon ordered that. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2013 #15
When a whistleblower's claims gradually escalate .... 11cents Jun 2013 #16
Because the world ended and people don't talk to her? Demeter Jun 2013 #27
Astounding and precisely what I have always suspected, but Tice offers JDPriestly Jun 2013 #17
If it had any validity it would be mainstream and not boilingfrog... xtraxritical Jun 2013 #18
Sorry, but anything I see from the MSM I take with a grain of salt watoos Jun 2013 #22
But right wingers are saying OBAMA WAS NOT VETTED alp227 Jun 2013 #19
I wonder how many people are going to call this guy a traitor? former9thward Jun 2013 #21
Rove and Cheney spied on tons of people and they didn't bother getting a warrent* either .... Botany Jun 2013 #23
Sounds like the 21st century version of the break-in of a certain hotel Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #25
i'm having a hard time believing this JI7 Jun 2013 #24
Somewhere Behind The Scenes cynzke Jun 2013 #28
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #29
Video of Tice snot Jul 2013 #32
Very lucky to have been able to see this video you've posted. Thank you, very much. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #33
more here Go Vols Jul 2013 #35
Huffington Post readership must be down... snooper2 Jul 2013 #34
We will NEVER know just how pervasive this is Doctor_J Jul 2013 #36
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
1. It was done to keep us safe
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:27 PM
Jun 2013

Why can't you people get that?

They are only interested in keeping us safe from Liberalism and that commie Obama. Sure, they failed, then, but it isn't like it was 9/11 all over again.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
6. Me too. But I would suggest someone sends the info to the WH
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:38 PM
Jun 2013

so maybe someone else will be motivated enough to really find out if it's true or just another made-up BS in order to become famous...

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
7. Gotta wonder how that makes the whole family feel ...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:38 PM
Jun 2013

... knowing that they themselves were surveilled under-the-table for really no reason other than he was thinking about running for the Senate.

Shoe smells different on the other foot, yeah?

 

TakeALeftTurn

(316 posts)
10. And still a lot of people still believe that the NSA's massive spying capabilities won't be
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:41 PM
Jun 2013

abused ................. massively.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
14. I'm sure they're waiting for an official TPM
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:52 PM
Jun 2013

Otherwise, "See, he's got nothing to hide! The Bush Administration found nothing on him!"

11cents

(1,777 posts)
16. When a whistleblower's claims gradually escalate ....
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:01 PM
Jun 2013

...so that years after the initial (perhaps legitimate and well-founded) disclosure, he or she starts coming up with unverifiable bombshells that you'd think would have been disclosed long before, you should apply salt. More than a grain. Especially when national attention has coincidentally just been turned to the general topic in which the new disclosures fit.

This template applies very well to Sibel Edmonds, on whose show Tice just dropped his BIG BOMBSHELL -- which you'd think he might have mentioned in, say, 2008. In her case, not only is she continuing to come up with new claims years and years after she left government, but they often pertain to topics far from the realm in which she actually worked.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
27. Because the world ended and people don't talk to her?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jun 2013

Sometimes there are honest people who tell the truth and nobody listens and lots of mud get dumped on them...in fact, the more the mud, (as opposed to actual indictments), the more honest they turn out to be.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
17. Astounding and precisely what I have always suspected, but Tice offers
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:22 PM
Jun 2013

no proof other than his own word.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
22. Sorry, but anything I see from the MSM I take with a grain of salt
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 06:05 PM
Jun 2013

The real news will have to come from alternate sources.

alp227

(32,054 posts)
19. But right wingers are saying OBAMA WAS NOT VETTED
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 05:15 PM
Jun 2013

Now they think the NSA may have the dirty they were waiting for like, born in Kenya, secret Muslim, those "sealed records", closeted gay...

Botany

(70,584 posts)
23. Rove and Cheney spied on tons of people and they didn't bother getting a warrent* either ....
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 06:07 PM
Jun 2013

....the NY Times sat on this story until after the 2004 election.


* From the FISA court ..... in Ohio 2004 Kerry's phones and election
protection lines were hacked too.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
25. Sounds like the 21st century version of the break-in of a certain hotel
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:05 PM
Jun 2013

except that with the earlier break-in, the perps were caught and their boss had to resign in disgrace.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
34. Huffington Post readership must be down...
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 12:00 PM
Jul 2013

They are going after the truthy/alex jones crowd now LOL

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
36. We will NEVER know just how pervasive this is
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 01:25 PM
Jul 2013

and unfortunately our president is now part of the club of culprits instead of victims.

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