Booz Allen Hamilton: Edward Snowden News 'Shocking', 'A Grave Violation'
Source: huffingtonpost.com
Their statement reads:
Booz Allen can confirm that Edward Snowden, 29, has been an employee of our firm for less than 3 months, assigned to a team in Hawaii. News reports that this individual has claimed to have leaked classified information are shocking, and if accurate, this action represents a grave violation of the code of conduct and core values of our firm. We will work closely with our clients and authorities in their investigation of this matter.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/09/booz-allen-hamilton-edward-snowden-nsa_n_3412609.html
flamingdem
(39,321 posts)to Hongkong?
karynnj
(59,504 posts)Or if you are fired for cause.
flamingdem
(39,321 posts)probably, but who knows
timdog44
(1,388 posts)he was going to Iceland.
flamingdem
(39,321 posts)for the rest of your life?
timdog44
(1,388 posts)question altogether. I think I would give Hong Kong a try.
flamingdem
(39,321 posts).. on another thread it says there IS an extradition treaty between the US and Hong Kong. Oops
timdog44
(1,388 posts)And should be able to come up with another identity.
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)Hong Kong could deport him. That would probably be the faster/easier way. It wouldn't surprise me if he took a few secrets we have on China/Hong Kong to trade for asylum. That's what most asylum seekers try to do.
unblock
(52,319 posts)PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)in Iceland all those lovely blonds, but Hong Kong is move lively - LOL.
Iceland would be the best place tho for his safety. Although I do not approve his actions, he did what he thought was best in his mind.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)"curiouser and curiouser"
flamingdem
(39,321 posts)involvement. Who knows.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)either his ex-company and/or the gov can grab him. They both probably will.
Berlin Expat
(950 posts)flamingdem
(39,321 posts)got to wonder if Greenwald is guilty in some respect here. This is pushing his career, destroying Snowden's career.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)appeal.
Snowden may really have been shocked by the program. Is that too hard to believe? Every once in a while a person with integrity shows up.
On the other hand, he may have made a deal with the Chinese.
Time will tell. I wouldn't jump to a conclusion either way.
There are true idealists in the word. There are also duplicitous types.
But I should think if Snowden had sold secrets, he would be quieter about it -- sneakier. So the odds are slightly better that he is an idealist.
The facts that he revealed are very shocking and might actually cause a person to sacrifice himself just to get them to the public. This program, regardless of why Snowden revealed it, is a great threat to our country. The program itself. Not its revelation. The program is the greater threat.
truth2power
(8,219 posts)We should not be distracted by attempts to focus only on personalities (kill the messenger, so to speak). That way, any discussion of the heinous practices themselves can be muted.
BTW..I do read all of what you write. I'll be in touch.
timdog44
(1,388 posts)and having to take the blame for something that his superiors should be shouldering. Unless in the spy world the work is all done by the underlings and the superiors eat lobster and sip wine.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)download anything they wanted.
This man went right for those docs, has a prepared dialog and 'statements', and ran to the press, worked there less than 3 months. He didn't plan this alone imo.
AnalystInParadise
(1,832 posts)Many people in the intel world know exactly where a lot of data is kept, Hawaii is one of those places because of all the military branches and agencies that are here. Secondly if you think about it Hawaii is six hours behind the East Coast. Which means that when it is 9 A.M. here in Hawaii it is 3 P.M. in Washington. Our government is a giant bureaucracy but most work stops at 5 pm EST, in Hawaii it is not even lunch time yet, which means that next to no one is paying attention since most workers at NSA Maryland work on the first shift. If I wanted to collect data and did not want anyone to know what I was doing, I would find somewhere with a huge data node and as far from the flagpole as possible. Hawaii fits the bill perfectly......Secondly, it has several routes to leave, again with the time zone difference and physical distance from Washington D.C. this seemed like a smart plan.....I can see one person acting alone to come up with this plan....I just thought it up and I am not working with anyone.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The program stinks. It is a threat to self-government. It is incompatible with the Bill of Rights in a number of respects.
Snowden may be a bad guy or a good guy. That is irrelevant because the program that he outed is just so hideous, such a huge threat to our freedom, that why would anyone care what his motivation is.
Anything our government is doing in terms of surveillance is probably equaled or surpassed by a couple of other countries with or without the help of someone like Snowden.
Obama has claimed that the Chinese stole defense secrets from us. If they could do that, they could have also penetrated this stupid surveillance program. I think that China already has a similar program that it uses on its citizens. Why would it want to encourage Snowden to talk about the U.S. program?
So, I don't know, but there are good arguments both ways. I'm grateful that the information about the massive surveillance is in the open. It is completely incompatible with freedom, with the Bill of Rights, with the checks and balances guaranteed by our Constitution and with everything we value in America.
Why is it incompatible with our constitutional system of checks and balances? Because it gives informational power to the executive branch that permits the executive branch to spy on the members of the other branches if it wishes to do so. I am not saying that has happened. I have more confidence in Obama as a human being than that. But I am saying that the capacity for the executive to spy on members of Congress or the courts is there. So I am happy that this information is now known to the American public and probably better understood by Congress.
ElsewheresDaughter
(24,000 posts)Unless you remove the battery...
Inside your house, car or on the beach.
Google "Can You Hear Me Now?...ABC News"
atreides1
(16,093 posts)He was probably working at Kunia, just down the road from Schofield Barracks and Wheeler Army Airfield, on the island of Oahu.
AnalystInParadise
(1,832 posts)he probably had his hands on Classified docs by day 7. He already had a TS/SCI he was already a trusted agent, therefore as soon as orientation was done he had his hands on classified docs every day he worked. In the Intel community, if you have the clearance then he can handle the material once his in inprocessed and indoced......
I don't understand why several people now have wondered why after ONLY three months he was allowed to handle the material. What would be freaking weird is if after three months he had not handled classified at all.........
hughee99
(16,113 posts)so long and said nothing. Was he a sleeper?
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)If he worked for the CIA then he probably already had a top secret security clearance. That is worth at least an extra 50K or so per year. Booz Allen probably just relied on that.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)flamingdem
(39,321 posts)asap
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)flamingdem
(39,321 posts)and it's excellent food for life.