Watch: Ex-N.Y. Congressman Anthony Weiner 'can't say' no more sexts Read more: http://www.nydailyne
Source: NY Daily News
Former Congressman Anthony Weiner put the world on notice Wednesday: More women might step forward to say he sent them inappropriate texts and pictures.
Weiner has spent the past two weeks exploring a run for mayor after two years of self-imposed exile due to his sexting scandal.
But he gave two television interviews Wednesday that raised more questions than they answered.
In an interview with Dominic Carter on RNN, a regional news channel, Weiner said he could not rule out that more women might turn up.
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If reporters want to go try to find more, I can't say that they're not going to be able to find another picture or find another ... person, he said.
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And in an interview with Dave Evans on WABC-TV, Weiner dodged a question about how many women he'd sent inappropriate texts to.
When asked if it was six, he laughed nervously and shrugged.
I have tried to unpack every possible imaginable detail with my wife and trying to talk it through, he said Wednesday.
Six is
he said, before pausing. Its not 20 and its not 100.
I did it, with more than one person. It was wrong. I was doing it for some time, and Im glad its behind me.
At another point, he suggested that he didn't really remember.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/watch-weiner-hints-sexting-women-article-1.1326552
Hmmmm.. oookay
Even if he is a good politician with the last name he has and this scandal... how can he ever hope to get re-elected? Kind of like the Colbert-Busch race...
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)and faithfully represented his constituents. But fuck that, right? I mean, there's the puritanical outrage that just HAS to be directed towards him (and it's obviously just a coincidence that puritanical outrage is directed towards a leftist Democrat who did nothing illegal but not towards Republicans who illegally hire prostitutes).
psychopomp
(4,668 posts)High-risk behavior from someone in such a position of responsibility is not something generally conducive to stewardship of the country or even a city.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)Ask yourself why you know anything about this man's personal life, and why you know about this aspect of it. What was the motivation of those making you aware of these things?
What was "high-risk" about Wiener's behaviour, other than being a leftist, of course, which is what brought the figurative lynch mobs out for him? What's the risk? He would think about women who aren't his wife while he masturbated? The horror. The horror.
neffernin
(275 posts)Our countries extreme fear of sexualism (abstinence instead of safe sex, no sex ed, etc.) while at the same time supporting capitalism which likes to promote thongs for middle school kids http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adora-svitak/would-you-buy-this-for-yo_b_925117.html is just downright painful to watch. Seeing a man going through a mid-life crisis on twitter and texting random women pictures of his... erm... Anthony's Weiner... is a big joke and really shouldn't be seen as anything other than a blip in the road.
That being said, a guy named Weiner was caught showing off his weiner. That will ALWAYS follow him. If his name was Clinton people would have forgotten about it already. Any campaign is going to be full of that guys rooster all over the place, he will get absolutely no cross-vote and many constituents will be turned off (though some may be turned on) by what's presented to them.
Ian David
(69,059 posts)A Country Song for Anthony Weiner, by Eric Schwartz ("There's a Picture"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017114500
alp227
(32,019 posts)of campaign consulting and media commentary? With this suggestion "there are more" he can kiss any future election ( with an L not R) within the next 5 years goodbye.
frylock
(34,825 posts)harmonicon
(12,008 posts)alp227
(32,019 posts)If he did NOT spend all that time covering up his Twitter misdeeds I would forgive him.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)on or conflict with his governmental/legislative duties become "inappropriate"? He did nothing illegal, and he did nothing that made any of his political positions hypocritical. I don't see anything inappropriate about it.
alp227
(32,019 posts)And I went to Wikipedia and found this NYT article suggesting that Weiner was entrapped.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)It may surprise you to learn that married men will sometimes flirt with women who aren't their wives - shocking, I know. It's especially more likely when people try to set them up by coming onto them in hopes that they'll respond in kind so that their normal impulses can hypocritically exploited as "perversion" to sully an exemplary legislative career, making an otherwise likely-to-be-successful mayoral campaign by a leftist Democrat unsuccessful.
That's what this has always been about. The point was the he was going to be the next mayor of the largest city in the US. Political operatives and the media (which is just the propaganda machine for certain business interests, at this point) set this whole thing up to make such a mayoral victory an impossibility. You're only helping them, and you're not even getting paid (I assume).
alp227
(32,019 posts)I'd turn the other cheek if Weiner were an eligible bachelor. But I think it was horrible judgement for him to be doing that to the mother of his child. Weiner will have to explain to his son why he had to walk away from Congress. And let me tell ya this. If I caught my father doing the kind of stuff Weiner was doing, I'd stop talking to my father.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)but I don't remember ever hearing "I will not flirt with people online" as one of the marriage vows. One of my best friends is getting married in a few months in a non-religious wedding. I'll ask if they're going to have that as one of the vows.
I don't know how someone would explain the complexities of why he had to walk away from congress to a child, that's for sure. However, only a small part of that has to do with explaining how the US was founded by insane puritans, and despite being a supposed "melting pot," that insane puritanical principles are still expected of certain types of public figures... but only when criticized by the media. Then the real complicated bit starts where you'd have to explain the rise of cable "news," the existence and then repeal of the fairness doctrine, the inherent conflict of interest between "free" media in a voracious capitalist economy and objective journalism. Man... and then there's even more.
alp227
(32,019 posts)The last name an obvious target in K-3rd grades, and then when he's a teenager chances are some of his buddies at school will know about what his daddy did...combine that with the last name...UGH.
In non-open marriages, shouldn't intimacy be reserved between spouses?
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)Assuming they aren't doing anything illegal, I don't see how it's anyone's business who isn't involved with them on a personal level.
Do you think FDR, JFK, and Bill Clinton were unfit for public office? They had actual affairs (you know, "mommy/daddy" style touching, but not between mommy and daddy) when married and in public office.
Do you think marriage should be reserved for straight people? Are gay people unfit for public office because they have intimate relationships different from the straight majority?
Do you think your personal relationships and sexual practices should be scrutinized by your employers?
A political hit was carried out against Anthony Weiner; a political hit with legs, apparently.
alp227
(32,019 posts)And doesn't the way one handles his personal relationships reflect on one's character? Take Newt Gingrich for instance, after an affair he had enough poor ethics to serve a wife with divorce papers WHEN SHE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL! Just my personal opinion. I think though we'd be in a Big Brother society if employers got to quiz us about our personal relationships.
Speaking of Weiner's online photos. I wonder if there's evidence the women who received the photos consented?
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)People who would outlaw homosexuality itself and now want to keep gay marriage impossible are simply projecting their chosen sexual practices in their private life into the law and public discourse. How is you demeaning Anthony Wiener for doing nothing illegal in his personal life any different?
So, do you want to live in "a Big Brother society"? You seem to if you think that means an employer quizzing an employee about their personal/sexual life while at the same time wanting to likewise quiz public employees.
Will you please answer my question about FDR, JFK, and Bill Clinton? Were they unfit for public office? At what point do you think they should have resigned?
alp227
(32,019 posts)By law they cannot be considered unfit for public office, the Republican witch hunt for Clinton notwithstanding, but their conduct must have cost their party votes. Besides, were JFK's affairs known mostly after his death?
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)What you don't know can't hurt you - something like that?
It's absolutely correct that there was a witch hunt against Clinton, and there also was for Wiener.
Do you think FDR having affairs made him a worse president? Did having an affair have a negative impact on how he served the American people? I doubt it.
Private lives used to be private, and that was a good thing. I don't know why I should know anything about the personal life of an elected official. I really think it's none of my business. Now, if they're breaking the law, that's something different.
I think Anthony Wiener was a great congressman, and I think he would be a good Mayor. I can't imagine what his personal life could have to do with that.
alp227
(32,019 posts)So if politicians' personal lives should be private I ask again, what about Gingrich? Should he be scrutinized more to see if he practices the "family values" he preaches?
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)I'll give you that. The problem is that every politician is now in this weird spotlight. They're set up to not just be bureaucrats, but exemplary people. Their politics are often ignored, with the focus being about who is the best person or something. I think being an exemplary legislator is more important to being a legislator than being an exemplary husband is. Anthony Wiener only has to be a husband to one person at a time. He had to be a legislator to many, and I've never seen any evidence that he didn't do that incredibly well.
MADem
(135,425 posts)He was a jerk, but WTF is up with the right wing that they would pull this kind of shit?
I mean, here's a Congressman, taking pictures of his Little Anthony and his dorky chest and sending them out to strangers...compare that to SENATOR David Vitter, who likes to get powdered and diapered by prostitutes.
Never mind the old "¿Quién es más macho?" SNL routine, I think the senator wins the ¿Quién es más kinky? contest....
People in glass houses shouldn't be tossing rocks, is all I'm saying...
marble falls
(57,080 posts)keep his winky to himself.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)Is your personal life the business of your employer, especially when you're doing nothing illegal?
MADem
(135,425 posts)private life on semi-public twitter with people you do not even know, well, that's risky behavior.
People are interested in this kind of stuff. It's human nature. He's a public figure, not an anonymous cubicle slave--his conduct is a matter of public interest.
Will he be able to overcome his past? Some say the sins of the flesh are the most easily forgiven...others don't feel that way. Time will tell...
I'm not a New Yorker. They have the right to choose the mayor that suits them. If it's Anthony, hopefully he'll keep Little Anthony out of harm's way for the duration of his term.
marble falls
(57,080 posts)and he gets to react within the law (and Wiener wasn't fired - he quit). Do you have the right to send me a photo of your winky with no how-do-you-do whether or not its against the law?
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)I'm an adult. I have a penis. It's ok. I can use adult words. Other adult men have penises too. We use them for sex acts. It's part of normal life, and it's completely ok.
marble falls
(57,080 posts)"we're here, we're blase' .... eh, so what?"
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)If there's more than 6 but it's not 20 or 100 sorry but that begs the question - Is it more than six, less than 20 or IS IT MORE THAN 100? You were doing it "for some time" !?!?!?!?! You don't remember? Is that because it's too many to remember? If you can't tell us how many more women you stupidly sexted, then it's NOT behind you. You were doing a great job in the House. I wished i was in your district so I could vote for you. I loved your complaint during the Obamacare negotiations - "we've already compromised the compromised compromise." But you f***d up and let your wife and the rest of us down. Nevertheless I was considering voting for you in the mayoral primary; not so much now. Why should you be elected again for anything and then have to leave the post because another forgotten text or lurid photo surfaces? You have to come clean before you can even think of asking for our votes.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)I would rather have a great representative, governor, mayor, etc. who videotapes him or herself engaged in shitloads of anonymous, filthy sex than any of shitty representatives I've been able to vote for in my life.
marble falls
(57,080 posts)someone who is in a public position who can't keep the private aspect of his life that may not sit well with others private. I have concerns about someone who couldn't keep it covered or sent it out over the internet willy nilly. I think Anthony Weiner was a great Congressman, an equal to Alan Grayson, but it pisses me off he pissed off his carreer and gave up his seat to a Republican.
AAO
(3,300 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Especially in todays politics. Both sides probably set traps- to catch these men whos' brains seem to be in their pants.
I bet even the old aol chatrooms are saved on some server out there. Scrolling chats of hundreds of old men linking pics of their genitalia and other things quite shocking to a youngster!
Tab
(11,093 posts)Not even 2 years ago. It was pretty clear at that point the dangers/silliness of inadvertent tweeting.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)And wasn't it old dead Briebart who grabbed the Weiner tweet pics off server?
Weiner learned the hard way why a politican shouldn't be so stupid.
Tab
(11,093 posts)It persists to this moment.
I think someone was just stupid again.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)She is a very nice woman
olddad56
(5,732 posts)they have it enlarged.
Badda Boom Badda Bing.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)I remember how quickly he piled on to helen Thomas to score quick poutrage points, saying that any paper who carried her reporting 'had no credibility.'
And then he lied to all of his supporters with his "Yikes! I was hacked!" playacting.
Was he any worse than Vitter? No, but that's not saying much. We can do better.
Let this self-absorbed jerk fade into obscurity.
Here's hoping his comeback deservedly fails.