Police Converge on Neighborhood in Watertown, Mass. Near Boston; Reports of Explosives (Arrest Made)

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Source: Associated Press

BBC Breaking News Verified account
@BBCBreaking
Multiple witnesses report gunfire & booms in #Watertown, about 10 miles west of Boston, after officer dies at #MIT http://bbc.in/15kZL6T

Wesley Lowery @WesleyLowery 8m
Being cleared back to School St. Cops not playing around. "Get the fuck out of here. This is not safe!" Hundreds of officers #MITShooting

Tim Pool @Timcast 3m
Reports that one of the suspects is en route to hospital under heavy guard #MITshooting
Retweeted by Chris Geidner

Cal Fire News @CalFireNews 13m
#Boston:2 suspects firing automatic weapons, deployed grenades, 2nd LEO down & transported, EXPLOSIVES - ALL UNITS

POLICE CONVERGE ON NEIGHBORHOOD OUTSIDE BOSTON

Apr. 19 1:59 AM EDT

WATERTOWN, Mass. (AP) — Police have converged on a neighborhood outside Boston where there were reports of explosives being detonated and police are telling reporters to turn off their cell phones.

Dozens of officers and National Guard members are in Watertown, where television outlets report that gunfire and explosions have been heard. A helicopter is circling overhead.

Authorities early Friday were calling for somebody to get on the ground and put their hands up and a loud thud was heard after someone shouted "fire in the hole."

Reporters are being told to move away from the scene. A police officer told a reporter: "If you want to live, turn off your cell phone."

Earlier Thursday night a campus police officer was shot and killed at MIT and authorities were searching for the person responsible.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/20/us/explosives-detonated-in-massachusetts-standoff.html?hp&_r=0

Explosives Detonated in Massachusetts Standoff

By RAVI SOMAIYA
Published: April 19, 2013

Two young men, armed with guns and explosives in what appeared to be backpacks, engaged in a violent standoff with dozens of police on a street in Watertown, Mass., Thursday night, a resident said.


Police officers blocked off the scene of a shooting at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge, Mass.
Andrew Kitzenburg, 29, said he looked out of this third floor window to see two young men of slight build in jackets shooting at dozens of police officers from behind a black Mercedes SUV. The officers and the men were 70 yards apart, he said, and engaged in “constant gunfire.”

A police SUV “drove towards the shooters,” he said, and was shot at until it was severely damaged. It rolled out of control, Mr. Kitzenberg said, and crashed into two cars in his driveway.

The two shooters, he said, had a large and unwieldy bomb. “They lit it, still in the middle of the gunfire, and threw it. But it went 20 yards at most.” It exploded, he said, and one of the two men ran towards the gathered police officers. He was tackled, but it was not clear if he was shot, Mr. Kitzenberg said.

The other, he said, got back into the SUV, turned it towards officers and “put the pedal to the metal.” The car “went right through the cops, broke right through and continued west.”

The two men left “a few backpacks right by the car, and there is a bomb robot out there now.” Police had told residents to stay away from their windows, he said.

MORE

Gunfire, explosions reported in Watertown, Massachusetts

Posted: 10:35 PM

Last Updated: 3 minutes ago
By: CNN Wire

WATERTOWN, MA - At least one person was arrested in Watertown, Massachusetts early Friday morning and stripped naked before being taken into custody, CNN photojournalist Gabe Ramirez observed.

Dozens of police have rushed to the area just over two miles from Cambridge, said CNN's Drew Griffin, who was near the scene. A "very large event has taken place," Griffin said. There were reports that explosives were involved.

It is unclear if this arrest was related to the shooting at Massachusetts Institute of Technology campus or any other incident in Boston the area.

There is no more information at this time. Stay with abc15.com for the latest details.

Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/national/gunfire-explosions-reported-in-watertown-massachusetts

[gateley]

1. CNN is covering this live on TV (probably on the site, too)

[diabeticman]

6. Can CNN be trusted after yesterday?

[gateley]

9. Well they're there with a live camera so they're not relying on "sources". MSNBC

isn't covering it -- running Lawrence O'Donnell.

[diabeticman]

11. they are breaking into Lawrence from time to time. I wish they would just stay live.

[gateley]

13. That's something that has always bothered me about MSNBC -- not a real NEWS station.

Their tag was "the place for politics". It would be nice to get news like this, too.

[WheelWalker]

2. WTF, over?

[elleng]

5. No, not over,

active scene.

[Mopar151]

12. Roger that WTF, please stand by.. n/t

[elleng]

3. Following it here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022705857

Active scene, tv news stream.

[Jon Ace]

4. Two suspects, one in custody, one subdued at gunpoint

Per scanner

[elleng]

7. Not hearing that, on tv.

http://www1.whdh.com/video/7newslive

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

48. They just reported the guy shot has died

It's just after 2:30 AM there now...

[elleng]

49. Yes, heard that.

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

60. Now they are reporting these are the Marathon Bombing suspects... nt

[elleng]

61. YES!!!

[Tx4obama]

8. CNN is reporting regarding the explosives - LIVE n/t

[gateley]

10. All cellphones ordered OFF because of undetonated explosives (possibly).

[gateley]

14. OMG! Is anyone watching CNN? Just showed a shot of a gunman on the ground

spread eagled, and reporters were commenting that the police were backing AWAY from him. Speculation (reporters) he may have indicated he had a weapon or something?

CRAZY!

[King_Klonopin]

15. The unibomber was an MIT alumn.

Maybe the trail of the two suspected bombers has lead the FBI to MIT ?

They certainly looked like typical Boston area college students.

[olddad56]

79. I don't think he was. I think he was a Harvard grad where he became an MKUltra victim.

[gateley]

16. Reporter is saying that someone they apprehended looked like Suspect #1 -- put into a police

vehicle totally nude (I'm assuming the cops made him strip).

But would it be local police? Wouldn't the Feds be the ones to swoop in?

I think it's probably likely they're just speculating?

[gateley]

17. Are the MIT shooting and activity in Watertown related? Anybody know?

[Dan Ken]

23. Double armed robberies reported earlier closeby on Memorial Drive Cambridge

There is, as of yet, no connection between those and this, other than time and the same general area, within very few miles.

[gateley]

31. Thanks! And welcome to DU, Dan Ken!

[lexw]

18. So is this thought to be related to the bombing? I'm confused.

[Jon Ace]

19. No links to the MIT shooting or bombings yet. (nt)

[alcibiades_mystery]

20. Maybe so, maybe no

FBI is in Watertown (CORRECTION: FBI at MIT, not Watertown), which would signal that yes, Marathon related. But there is a dead cop involved, so the police presence might be related to that as well.

[marybourg]

28. FBI IS in Watertown now, per channel 7 news streaming video

[alcibiades_mystery]

30. Correct...thanks!

Fast moving...

[JenniferJuniper]

22. Local news relating it to the MIT shooting

nothing about a Marathon link at the present time.

[Rowdyboy]

21. Jesus what a freaking nightmare week this has turned out to be...and tomorrow is 4/19-anniversary

of Branch Dravidian raid at Waco and federal building bombing in Oklahoma City.

[lexw]

24. ...and wasn't 4/20 the Columbine shooting?

[Rowdyboy]

36. Columbine was indeed on April 20th, which is also Adolph Hitler's birth date

I dread the rest of this week

[neversaydie]

26. I'm afraid to tune in tomorrow

tempted to stay under the covers tomorrow...

[Rowdyboy]

37. Myself. Its a good weekend to stay close to home.....n/t

[davidpdx]

55. I was thinking....

What the fuck is this world coming to?

At least we are sure the explosion in Texas was just the incompetence of the owner and not terrorism (I guess you could label it corporate terrorism). I saw video this morning and the area was just leveled like a bomb had gone off. I feel bad for the people there who lost so many people and had so many injured.

[Rowdyboy]

58. As far as we know thus far.....

Dear god let it stay that way

[davidpdx]

59. You can say that again

[Hissyspit]

25. Ravi Somaiya ‏@ravisomaiya 9m Local resident says two men threw what appeared to be "pressure cooker

Ravi Somaiya ?@ravisomaiya 9m
Local resident says two men threw what appeared to be "pressure cooker bomb" at police. Bomb robot still on Laurel St, he says.
Retweeted by Asher Wolf

[lib87]

27. Oh wow

If these men are the 2 marathon bombers, it took less than 6 hours to find them after their pics were plastered all over.

[gateley]

35. As the news commented, there are so many different agencies represented --

makes me think it just might be. Or maybe they're just on edge and being uber conscientious?

[JenniferJuniper]

29. I've only heard about hand grenades from local news outlets;

robot is still in the street, however.

[Hissyspit]

32. It's probably a rumor.

[Hissyspit]

33. It's probably not true that it is a pressure cooker bomb.

It's night and the person may have seen what they wanted to see. But it's pretty clear explosions occurred.

[gateley]

38. They're saying witnesses heard three loud BOOMS - then weapons being fired.

[Hissyspit]

62. Matthew Keys ‏@TheMatthewKeys 5m NBC News: A pressure cooker was found at the Watertown crime scene

Matthew Keys ?@TheMatthewKeys 5m
NBC News: A pressure cooker was found at the Watertown crime scene

[gateley]

63. Wow! I would have thought that witness was mistaken. Wow!

[lexw]

34. If these arent the marathon bombers, these two sure picked a bad week to attempt a robbery.

...very sad that an officer was killed in this.

[JenniferJuniper]

39. they may be backing away from the "second suspect";

He may have been a bystander. One suspect and one police officer have been hit and that's all that is confirmed.

[lexw]

53. The pic of the guy on the ground being arrested, had light colored hair...

the 2 suspects appeared to have dark hair. Maybe the lighting at the arrest site.

[JenniferJuniper]

57. WBZ says the guy they have is White Cap

who was the lighter of the two.

[Dan Ken]

40. Location of police activity is now centered on 3-4 streets

The police have concentrated their activity and search at the intersections of

Laurel Street Watertown, MA
School Street Watertown, MA
Dexter AVe Watertown, MA

It is a residential area, abutting a major shopping and offfice/area of Arsenal Street, Watertown

Appears to be the continuance of a door-to-door search involving multiple law enforcement agencies at 2:15 AM local time.

[MindPilot]

75. Arsenal St? Really?

Just a little ironic aside.

My town has a Vigilante Road -- always though that was an odd name for a street.

[Dan Ken]

76. Originally a street where a large Arsenal was, yes

The large gun and weapons manufacturing plant used in WW II has been converted to two shopping malls and other commercial businesses, like car dealerships, etc.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

41. This is insane.

Andrew Kitzenburg, 29, said he looked out of this third floor window to see two young men of slight build in jackets shooting at dozens of police officers from behind a black Mercedes SUV. The officers and the men were 70 yards apart, he said, and engaged in “constant gunfire.”

A police SUV “drove towards the shooters,” he said, and was shot at until it was severely damaged. It rolled out of control, Mr. Kitzenberg said, and crashed into two cars in his driveway.

The two shooters, he said, had a large and unwieldy bomb. “They lit it, still in the middle of the gunfire, and threw it. But it went 20 yards at most.” It exploded, he said, and one of the two men ran towards the gathered police officers. He was tackled, but it was not clear if he was shot, Mr. Kitzenberg said.

The other, he said, got back into the SUV, turned it towards officers and “put the pedal to the metal.” The car “went right through the cops, broke right through and continued west.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/20/us/explosives-detonated-in-massachusetts-standoff.html?_r=2&

[Dan Ken]

44. That report goes along with CBS 4's recorded sounds

from a tape recorded just a while ago.

[Gin]

42. Is that car jacker still on the loose? No mention of that car for a while.

He was throwing grenades out the. Window.....at least I think I heard that.

[Dan Ken]

45. See the two posts above yours n/t

[JenniferJuniper]

43. 1 Marathon bombing suspect in custody; another still at large in Watertown, according to official

Boston Globe headline

[Dan Ken]

46. 1 Marathon bombing suspect in custody; search for another suspect still on in Watertown 2:23 am

Headline at BOSTON.COM

"1 Marathon bombing suspect in custody; search for another suspect still on in Watertown 2:23 am"

[Dan Ken]

47. Video taped coverage of first arrest on CBS 4 Boston TV

If there are those of you who can see it.

[Kablooie]

50. Insane! But these guys must be total imbeciles.

To hang around Boston after setting off those bombs is stupid.
Not to disguise yourself when placing them is stupid.
To get in a shoot out with police is stupid.

Luckily.

No prediction as to who these guys are but the mental M.O. fits our illiterate tea party friends pretty well.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

64. they're evil.

But if you think this is anything less than what they wanted you're crazy. They knew this was coming. One of them is an Ivy League student.

[Dan Ken]

51. Screen capture of Boston Globe web site headline

https://twitter.com/RosieGray/status/325132985827487744/photo/1

Police are still looking for a second suspect, according to CBS 4 news live reports.

[Hissyspit]

52. Boston Globe front page says 'A Marathon Bombing Suspect is in Custody'

MARATHON BOMBINGS
One suspect in custody, another remains on the loose
One suspect in Monday’s Boston Marathon bombings has been captured, according to an official with knowledge of the investigation.0:19 am

[avaistheone1]

56. I trust The Boston Globe. They do solid reporting. If they say one of the suspect Marathon bombers

is in custody, I believe them.

[Hissyspit]

54. State Police: Multiple explosive devices were used against police.

[Dan Ken]

65. So there's now two suspects in custody?

Conflicting reports: some say one is in custody? some say second in custody and has died?

STILL police activity engaged in searching and a bomb detection robot is working a car in Watertown, MA.

The apprehension of one individual, caught on camera, MSNBC reports, was NOT one of the suspects,

So confusing. Too much information. Maybe time for bed.

[go west young man]

66. Suspect is missing student.

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10022704724

[davidpdx]

67. The police will do a controlled detonation of something suspicious

[valerief]

68. When are they going to arrest the people responsible for allowing the West, TX, explosion to occur?

[sheshe2]

69. Hissyspit, newest link

http://www.nbcnews.com/

By Pete Williams, Richard Esposito, Michael Isikoff and Erin McClam, NBC News
With a bomb strapped to his chest, one of the Boston Marathon suspects was killed early Friday after he and his accomplice robbed a 7-Eleven, shot a police officer to death, carjacked an SUV and hurled explosives out the window in an extraordinary firefight with law enforcement, authorities told NBC News.
The second suspect — the one in the white hat in photos released by the FBI — was on the loose, and police ordered people in the Boston suburb of Watertown to stay in their homes and businesses not to open. Boston shut down its buses and subway system for the hunt.
The suspects are brothers with the last name Tsarnaez, law enforcement officials told NBC News. Two law enforcement officials told NBC News that both men had international ties, had been in the United States about a year, were in their early 20s and had military experience.

[Dan Ken]

70. Boston area virtually shut down!

All trains, buses, and metro subway shut down!

All colleges and universities, most businesses shut down.

Door to door search continues in Watertown area.

[sheshe2]

71. I know, insane!

I have had the news on since 6am!

[Tracer]

72. My son and DIL are in lockdown.

They live not a half mile from where the huge shootout occurred early this morning.

The police made automatic phone calls telling residents not to leave their houses.

I hope they apprehend the second suspect alive.

[dipsydoodle]

73. News conference occuring now apparently

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/19/boston-mit-police-dead-watertown

Deval Patrick, Massachusetts governor, speaks to the press.

He says there is a massive manhunt under way for Suspect Two.

He confirms all public transport has been suspended.

He asks people to stay indoors with their doors locked and not to open their doors to anyone except a police officers – in “all of Boston”.

[dipsydoodle]

74. Aside from the public transport lockdown

within the past 5 minutes or so all taxis are locked down now too.

[Dan Ken]

77. Boston, Cambridge, Watertown, Belmont ALL

locked down to a point that almost no one is working anywhere.

[Sunlei]

78. police scanner, suspect posted online-"I will kill you all, you killed my brother"

The believe he wears a suicide vest and is holed up in a close neighborhood