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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 03:04 PM Apr 2013

US, China Pledge Efforts For Nuclear-Free NKorea

Source: Associated Press

The United States and China committed Saturday to a process aimed at ridding North Korea of its nuclear weapons, with the Obama administration gaining at least the rhetorical support of the only government that can exert significant influence over the reclusive North.

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Kerry said U.S. Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and representatives from U.S. intelligence agencies would travel to Beijing later this month. Kerry also is sending his deputy at the State Department, William Burns, as part of the effort to "make sure that this is not rhetoric but that it is real policy that is being implemented."

Yang said his government's position was clear.

"China is firmly committed to upholding peace and stability and advancing the denuclearization process on the Korean peninsula," he said through an interpreter.

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Read more: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=177111033

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John2

(2,730 posts)
2. Well, you know my stance,
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:57 PM
Apr 2013

I totally disagree with you. I think the President just like on Social programs show double standards. I think the same about the Chinese also. Both countries have weapons of mass destruction and posses a lot more nuclear weapons than North Korea. They both continue to upgrade and test these weapons for more maxi mun effect. This includes other weapons for massive destruction or killing people. You are free to challenge these allegations. And I sincerely hope Mr. Obama does not try to frame his actions behind some kind of Christian morality for justification. That is the way I see it.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
5. We should support nuclear weapons
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 08:37 AM
Apr 2013

for nobody, and if you can't do that, then you have no moral grounds to stand on. I have the position that, if one country is allowed to have them, it gives them an advantage over another country.

Historically, the U.S. was the first country to open that Pandora's box and did not hesitate to use them or even used it to threaten other countries. They did not stop with Japan, but General MacArthur threatened to use them against the Chinese because of the Chinese numerical advantage on the battlefield. With that thought in mind, the Chinese and Russians proceeded to get nuclear weapons. North Korea asked for assistance for the same technology but China and Russia both refused.

If you go to the beginning of the whole matter, the question of obtaining nuclear weapons in regards to North Korea, did not begin in the 80s or 90s. They began to seek nuclear weapons when the United States voided portions of the negotiated truce after the Korean conflict. The paragraph the U.S. said they would not honer, was the right to introduce new weapons, including nuclear weapons into the Korean peninsula because they were the only country at the time had the technology.

That is when both China and Russia enhanced their own nuclear programs. Now that North Korea has obtained the same technology, all sides are crying foul. I find that to be hypocrisy at its height. If they can obtain nuclear weapons for their security, then why not North Korea or any other country for those purposes? I've come to the belief that is not the real reasons those countries don't want others to obtain the same technology. The real reasons are for an offensive advantage and not defensive, which amounts to false pretenses. The original environment involving the attitudes of the U.S. Congress and General MacArthur helped me to come to that conclusion. What matters is their mind frame and intent.

And if you consider other events, such as the U.S. and others, allowing their own allies to acquire such means, even further enhances this conclusion. A very good example is the state of Israel and the pressure being placed on the U.S. to release Jonathan Pollard. Israel has in turned shared technology with different countries, such as the apartheid government of South Africa at the time, and maybe such countries as India and Turkey. If the U.S. and her Allies truly want non proliferation on nuclear weapons, then they should be consistent across the Board, and not use the issue to gain a military advantage. Why would any leader of any country take them serious? If I was a commander on a battle field, my response would be Hell no!

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
4. China is upset over our beefed-up SK military exercises and missile defenses.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 07:52 PM
Apr 2013

(which was part of the point of them)--Guess they should have gotten control over this situation a long time ago. We'll see how committed they are, but unless they're really willing to put a big squeeze on NK, nothing will happen.

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