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rsmith6621

(6,942 posts)
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 07:00 PM Feb 2012

Adult, 2 children killed in explosion at Josh Powell home




http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Explosion-at-Puyallup-home-rescue-operation-at-Powell-residence-138746774.html



GRAHAM, Wash. - An explosion and fire at the home of Josh Powell has killed two children and an adult male believed to be Powell and his two young sons, officials say.

The explosion shook the normally quiet cul-de-sac neighborhood at about 12:30 p.m. Sunday, and flames roared through the home near the intersection of 182nd Street and 84th Avenue.

Firefighters rushed to the scene after receiving multiple frantic 911 calls, where they found two young victims and an adult male victim.

Graham Deputy Chief Gary Franz said it's believed that the victims are Josh Powell and his two young sons.

Powell's wife Susan disappeared in December 2009 under suspicious circumstances while the couple was living in Utah, and he lost custody of his two sons last year.
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Adult, 2 children killed in explosion at Josh Powell home (Original Post) rsmith6621 Feb 2012 OP
The visitations with his sons were supposed to be supervised BanzaiBonnie Feb 2012 #1
the caseworker was pushed out the door KT2000 Feb 2012 #3
Who was supervising the visit? Very good question. Those poor children. yardwork Feb 2012 #4
Probably the case worker, who was forced out of the house. ManiacJoe Feb 2012 #5
Article said a caseworker had delivered the boys and tried to enter the house. classof56 Feb 2012 #6
Perhaps this might help answer some questions KansDem Feb 2012 #7
POS b*stard!!!!!! n/t pkz Feb 2012 #2
I hope this evil man ended up in hell. Hope the 2 boys are with his mother's spirit. The southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #8
What information do you have Dan Feb 2012 #34
All I know his father was arrested for having child porn on his computer. His own daughter isn't southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #38
A vile individual: ronnie624 Feb 2012 #45
from another story: shanti Feb 2012 #40
Yes I think your right. I have a feeling his father contributed to his problems. southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #52
Unbelievable .... Trajan Feb 2012 #9
That is just horrible DesertRat Feb 2012 #10
What an asshole. rfranklin Feb 2012 #11
VIDEO on the link below Tx4obama Feb 2012 #12
Oh no. Why were the children with him? Glimmer of Hope Feb 2012 #13
okay maybe I'm dumb(shouldn't surprise anyone) but who the freak is Josh Powell? Is he like famous Justice wanted Feb 2012 #14
I'm with you. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #16
I try clicking on the link and I get a blank page Justice wanted Feb 2012 #18
Yeah, its one of those stories from 2009ish when his wife disappeared. In winter. MissB Feb 2012 #19
No. This is not a soap opera. This is the tragic death of two small boys. Have some compassion. nolabear Feb 2012 #23
I don't know any of these people and neither do you. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #25
Wow. nt TBF Feb 2012 #39
Um .... Two young children are immolated in an awful conflagration ... Trajan Feb 2012 #43
This is absolutely meaningless on a national breaking news forum Occulus Feb 2012 #46
He is ath person of interest in his wifes disappearance..His alibi was rustydog Feb 2012 #28
Thank you. Sorry I am behind on these stories. I cringe and turn away as I here this I know I Justice wanted Feb 2012 #36
Sounds like second generation abuse, since the dad probably abused Powell. McCamy Taylor Feb 2012 #15
Not so great for women either. Just ask Susan Powell. Oh, wait, you can't.. nt left coaster Feb 2012 #20
Could you share Dan Feb 2012 #35
just curious naaman fletcher Feb 2012 #51
Am I supposed to know who Josh Powell is? n/t TygrBright Feb 2012 #17
See above. MissB Feb 2012 #21
No, it's exclusive knowledge for members of the elusive "Google Club" Bucky Feb 2012 #32
THANK YOU Skittles Feb 2012 #41
Oh, man, that's a good line. pacalo Feb 2012 #48
Poor (and lucky) social worker. MissB Feb 2012 #22
Aren't supervised visits usually at a neutral place? obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #24
It depends on the court order. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #27
Who is Josh Powell? Confusious Feb 2012 #26
He seems to have murdered his wife to get sole custody Bucky Feb 2012 #31
Thanks Confusious Feb 2012 #33
This is devastating. liberalmuse Feb 2012 #29
Damn; greiner3 Feb 2012 #30
Big Boom Boom--Some Kinda Mormon/Moron Death Ritual? solarman350 Feb 2012 #37
Blood atonement-ask Mitt if you get the chance icarusxat Feb 2012 #42
I would think killing the kids along with you would negate that. LadyHawkAZ Feb 2012 #44
So, his wife "disappeared" but he was still out and about and could see his kids? Who was asleep Mist Feb 2012 #47
He had supervised visits only. The caseworker tried to go into the house with the kids pacalo Feb 2012 #49
Josh Powell Tragedy: Son Said Mom Was In Trunk of Car, Lawyer Claims maddezmom Feb 2012 #50
Visit With a Monster LeFleur1 Feb 2012 #53
I've never heard of any of these people, but this is sad beyond belief. Still Blue in PDX Feb 2012 #54

BanzaiBonnie

(3,621 posts)
1. The visitations with his sons were supposed to be supervised
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 07:08 PM
Feb 2012

Who was supervising him?

The maternal grandparents said they always feared something like this.

What the hell happened? Who was supposed to be supervising the visits?

KT2000

(20,585 posts)
3. the caseworker was pushed out the door
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 07:13 PM
Feb 2012

when she took the children off for supervised visit. Then the explosion happened.
This sounds planned.

yardwork

(61,690 posts)
4. Who was supervising the visit? Very good question. Those poor children.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 07:13 PM
Feb 2012

This should not have happened.

classof56

(5,376 posts)
6. Article said a caseworker had delivered the boys and tried to enter the house.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 07:15 PM
Feb 2012

Powell slammed the door on her, locked it and then she thought she smelled gas. The explosion followed. Not sure how the caseworker fared.

God, this is just so unutterably sad. Those poor little guys! Words fail...

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
7. Perhaps this might help answer some questions
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 07:15 PM
Feb 2012
CBS Affiliate KIRO reports that Powell had a supervised visit Sunday with his sons, who had been placed in custody of Susan's parents.

Graham Fire and Rescue Chief Gary Franz told The Associated Press that the explosion occurred moments after a Child Protective Services worker brought the two boys to the home for a supervised visit. He said Powell let the boys in the house, then blocked the social worker from entering.

The social worker called her supervisors to report that she could smell gas, and the home exploded.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57371698/blast-kills-spouse-kids-of-missing-utah-woman/
 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
8. I hope this evil man ended up in hell. Hope the 2 boys are with his mother's spirit. The
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 07:23 PM
Feb 2012

hate this man must of had for his wife and her family was sick. I wonder what Josh's father did to him when he was a baby to make him turn out this way.


Now we will hear from the mouth of the law Nance Grace. Non-stop.

Dan

(3,576 posts)
34. What information do you have
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 10:42 PM
Feb 2012

that you could share with us - as it relates to Josh's father and how he treated his son..

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
38. All I know his father was arrested for having child porn on his computer. His own daughter isn't
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 11:01 PM
Feb 2012

close to either of them. She think Josh had something to do with his wife missing. The father is a pervert who tried to starnish his daughter-in-law.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
40. from another story:
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 11:59 PM
Feb 2012

...Jeffrey Bassett, who represented Powell in the custody case, said he received a brief email from his client just minutes before Powell and the two boys died. It said, "I'm sorry, goodbye."

The email arrived at 12:05 p.m. Sunday, about 10 minutes before the explosion, but he didn't see it until two hours later, when others told him Josh and the boys had been killed. He said he knew Josh was upset after being ordered to undergo a psycho-sexual evaluation recently, but he didn't see this coming.

Sounds like he knew his goose was cooked.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
9. Unbelievable ....
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 07:23 PM
Feb 2012

How low can a man get ? ..... To harm your own children out of spite ..... It is selfish beyond measure ...

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
14. okay maybe I'm dumb(shouldn't surprise anyone) but who the freak is Josh Powell? Is he like famous
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:04 PM
Feb 2012

or something the way the article is written or am I tired from work?

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
16. I'm with you.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:10 PM
Feb 2012

I'd sooner poke myself in the eye with a pointy stick than watch tv nooz, I'm guessing this is some real life soap opera I missed?

MissB

(15,811 posts)
19. Yeah, its one of those stories from 2009ish when his wife disappeared. In winter.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:16 PM
Feb 2012

He claims he took the boys camping that night, in freezing weather.

Sad all the way around. I feel bad for the maternal grandparents and the social worker.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
25. I don't know any of these people and neither do you.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:52 PM
Feb 2012

Whoever they are, their personal tragedy is not national news. Treating it as such only encourages a media that would rather focus on cheap, emotionally exploitative crime stories because real journalism costs money.

I'm not going to encourage this behavior and neither should you.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
43. Um .... Two young children are immolated in an awful conflagration ...
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 01:02 AM
Feb 2012

And you are worried about the media ?

Sometimes; People HAVE to get their heads out of politics .... If you cannot find it within your self to understand this pain, well, I have to doubt that your foundational ethics are worthy of emulation ...

There are times to focus on media manipulation - This is not one of those times.

Occulus

(20,599 posts)
46. This is absolutely meaningless on a national breaking news forum
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 03:21 AM
Feb 2012

and only serves to make me wonder what I'm being distracted from.

Bullshit "human interest" filler crap like this is why I do not ever watch TV news.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
28. He is ath person of interest in his wifes disappearance..His alibi was
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 09:10 PM
Feb 2012

he and his sons werre camping one night in subfreezing Utah and whenthey returned home, his wife Susan was gone.
He recently lost custody of their children to Susan's parents....

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
36. Thank you. Sorry I am behind on these stories. I cringe and turn away as I here this I know I
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 10:47 PM
Feb 2012

shouldn't but I just hate these stories.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
15. Sounds like second generation abuse, since the dad probably abused Powell.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:05 PM
Feb 2012

Proving that decades of silence about child abuse made America a toxic place for children.

MissB

(15,811 posts)
21. See above.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:18 PM
Feb 2012

His dad was a piece of work too. Dear ole grandpa claimed that josh's wife came on to him. The whole male side of that family appeared to be warped. Grandpa powell was busted for child porn.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
48. Oh, man, that's a good line.
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 04:23 AM
Feb 2012

I have an admiration for those who take the incentive to open another window to google for the answer. It prevents the thread from going off point.


MissB

(15,811 posts)
22. Poor (and lucky) social worker.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:19 PM
Feb 2012

And poor maternal grandparents.

It's times like these that I wish I believed in a biblical afterlife.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
27. It depends on the court order.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:59 PM
Feb 2012

Generally if there's some expectation that the family will be reunified, they'll start moving toward lower supervision, sometimes with a trusted adult who isn't involved with the system like a relative. When there's some question about the situation or a safety concern a neutral site and a neutral supervisory party will be used. I did that work for a while, and it broke my heart every day.

Bucky

(54,041 posts)
31. He seems to have murdered his wife to get sole custody
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 09:26 PM
Feb 2012

Obviously he had other issues, as if being plain old evil wasn't enough.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
29. This is devastating.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 09:15 PM
Feb 2012

I guess we can ascertain he murdered his wife, and now this son of a bitch took his babies with him. Oh my god. Why did they let the children visit him? From what I understand, the case worker was there, but he took the boys into the house and slammed the door on her. Then he filled the house with gas and blew it up.

 

solarman350

(136 posts)
37. Big Boom Boom--Some Kinda Mormon/Moron Death Ritual?
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 10:53 PM
Feb 2012

Too bad there's no Heaven nor Hell--That's what John Lennon asked us all to imagine...oui?

icarusxat

(403 posts)
42. Blood atonement-ask Mitt if you get the chance
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 12:41 AM
Feb 2012

Blood atonement is a Mormon thing. If you kill someone God will forgive you if your own blood is shed i.e. take your own life. Google it

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
44. I would think killing the kids along with you would negate that.
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 01:49 AM
Feb 2012

Much as I dislike the cult, I doubt his being LDS had anything at all to do with this mess.

Mist

(5,780 posts)
47. So, his wife "disappeared" but he was still out and about and could see his kids? Who was asleep
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 03:36 AM
Feb 2012

when that decision was made?

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
49. He had supervised visits only. The caseworker tried to go into the house with the kids
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 04:26 AM
Feb 2012

but the door slammed in her face. She was on her way to her car to call 9-11 when the house exploded.

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
50. Josh Powell Tragedy: Son Said Mom Was In Trunk of Car, Lawyer Claims
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 10:33 AM
Feb 2012


Feb. 6, 2012





The young sons of Susan and Josh Powell, who died with their father when he ignited an explosion in their Washington home, were beginning to verbalize that their mother was in the trunk of their father's car on the night that she disappeared in 2009, a lawyer for the missing woman's parents said.

Attorney Steve Downing told the Associated Press that Braden and Charles Powell, who were 2 and 4 at the time of Susan Powell's disappearance, were beginning to tell their grandparents details about the night that their father took them on a late-night camping trip during a blizzard, including the fact that their mother disappeared after leaving in the car with their father.

"They were beginning to verbalize more," Downing said. "The oldest boy talked about that they went camping and that mommy was in the trunk. Mom and dad got out of the car and mom disappeared."

Sgt. Mike Powell of the West Valley City Police Department in Utah did not return phone calls inquiring about the children's assertions about their mother's presence on the December 2009 camping trip, AP reported.
more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/josh-powell-tragedy-son-mother-trunk-car-lawyer/story?id=15520394

LeFleur1

(1,197 posts)
53. Visit With a Monster
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 11:20 AM
Feb 2012

I really do not understand why this man had access to those two little boys. If it was absolutely necessary, why not at a neutral place? He was a person of interest in his wife's disappearance, his father used his computer to view child porn, and his binoculars/camera to peek through unsuspecting neighbor's windows in the same home with the children. There have been altogether too many "mistakes" made by judges and DHSH that put children in harm's way. It seems systemic. Something should be done so that this kind of thing, and all of the other harmful things, cannot happen to children in questionable circumstances.

And for those readers who don't know or care about this case, skip the thread. Those of us who do know of it are heartsick, and wish to express that sorrow and outrage here.

Still Blue in PDX

(1,999 posts)
54. I've never heard of any of these people, but this is sad beyond belief.
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 04:46 PM
Feb 2012

Like many others here, I don't follow the news. It seems like just so much voyeurism.

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